Football The 2010/2011 Season Thread

[Embattle]

It may be only the first game but lets be honest Arsenal still put on a terrible display, I suspect they'll do better but it isn't a good start to continue being the a one trick pony.

 

[Tasslehoff]

Great game by Reina

 

[cHodAX]

We still have a lot of debt but we're paying it off quickly. Arsenal fans that aren't complete and utter retards realise this. The new stadium was not for the short term.

Of course and I wouldn't dispute that but the club is turning good profits and very little if anything seems to be going into the side despite glaring holes in a couple of key areas. We aren't talking £100 million to fix them either, £20 million wisely spent would get it done and make Arsenal highly competitive. Yes you must clear those doubts but winning trophies means prize money as well as growing your fanbase abroad, they will help clear that debt all the quicker.

You and I don't often agree but surely you see that side is too weak in a few areas? Only some moderate spending is going to get Arsenal where they need to be any time soon. If not then I think you will lose Cesc all the sooner and have to start rebuilding again. I am no great lover of Arsenal but they are a side that should be winning things on a regular basis, that is a club set up for success if they are brave at the right times.

 

[megadave]

We still have a lot of debt but we're paying it off quickly. Arsenal fans that aren't complete and utter retards realise this. The new stadium was not for the short term.

That's why Wenger is doing such a great job. Keeping Arsenal in the top 4 with minimal expenditure.

 

[Embattle]

That's why Wenger is doing such a great job. Keeping Arsenal in the top 4 with minimal expenditure.

Well his part of his policy has been to develop his young players but if he can't do better this year and win something then it is going to become a serious problem.

 

[soze]

Well his part of his policy has been to develop his young players but if he can't do better this year and win something then it is going to become a serious problem.

Non Arsenal fans have said that since we moved to the Emirates. Arsenal fans understand our club runs on a budget, Wenger is not the type to get a bank loan to buy players.

 

[Raven]

He doesn't need to, a couple of decent 10-15 mil buys and he could compete.

 

[soze]

He doesn't need to, a couple of decent 10-15 mil buys and he could compete.

It's not the initial cash its the wages. This season with so many having left it should not be a problem. But in previous years he has not wanted wages over the no CL money and 70% of the stadium full level of income.

 

[Raven]

I can understand that and I think its admiral, if they did win then they certainly wouldn't be accused of buying success like some teams.

 

[ST^]

You and I don't often agree but surely you see that side is too weak in a few areas?

I see a team that is as strong as or stronger than last season's team, one that would have won the premier league if we didn't have absolutely horrible luck with injuries. We were without Song Billong and Cesc yesterday, you can bet the score would've been different if we had 'em.

 

[cHodAX]

I see a team that is as strong as or stronger than last season's team, one that would have won the premier league if we didn't have absolutely horrible luck with injuries. We were without Song Billong and Cesc yesterday, you can bet the score would've been different if we had 'em.

Oh give over, you only got close for a while because United had horrible defensive injuries with 7 of our 9 squad defenders being out at the same time. We lost 8 games and still finished 10 points, yes 10 points ahead of you. You were nowhere near winnng it last season and your injuries were not comparable to ours either. Now with the same side you think you are going to do better? Infact a weaker side, no Campbell or Gallas anymore. No, that side last year was not good enough and only got close for a while because both United and Chelsea kept stuttering, it won't happen again to both and United certainly have more depth this time around to cope with injuries as well freshen things up tactically.

 

[Embattle]

Non Arsenal fans have said that since we moved to the Emirates. Arsenal fans understand our club runs on a budget, Wenger is not the type to get a bank loan to buy players.

I may not speak for most Arsenal fans but judging by your comment I highly doubt you do either, to me it is little more than a case of smoke and mirrors. Although I would say lets wait a little while and see what happens before making any real judgement on Arsenal's performance, not the best start but perhaps something that'll give them a kick.

I see a team that is as strong as or stronger than last season's team, one that would have won the premier league if we didn't have absolutely horrible luck with injuries. We were without Song Billong and Cesc yesterday, you can bet the score would've been different if we had 'em.

I think you'll find many clubs had issues, so it isn't a valid argument for defense.

 

[soze]

I may not speak for most Arsenal fans but judging by your comment I highly doubt you do either, to me it is little more than a case of smoke and mirrors. Although I would say lets wait a little while and see what happens before making any real judgement on Arsenal's performance, not the best start but perhaps something that'll give them a kick.

Of the Arsenal fans i know and the ones i talk to in the ground none of them want us to borrow £100 mil for temporary success, it is so short sighted to think getting deeper in debt just to make a better play for the title is a sensible solution. If your mates think it is a good idea i would say look at Leeds Portsmouth and you when you tried living about your means to chase silverware.

 

[Vladamir]

I see a team that is as strong as or stronger than last season's team, one that would have won the premier league if we didn't have absolutely horrible luck with injuries. We were without Song Billong and Cesc yesterday, you can bet the score would've been different if we had 'em.

Liverpool didn't have a fit Torres, you could argue semantics all day long

 

[cHodAX]

Of the Arsenal fans i know and the ones i talk to in the ground none of them want us to borrow £100 mil for temporary success, it is so short sighted to think getting deeper in debt just to make a better play for the title is a sensible solution. If your mates think it is a good idea i would say look at Leeds Portsmouth and you when you tried living about your means to chase silverware.

You don't need to borrow anything, Wenger has a warchest and you posted a £35 million profit in February AFTER meeting all your debt payments. To say you need to borrow to buy is plain misleading. £35 million on one good goalkeeper, a decent central defender and a ball winning central midfielder and Arsenal have a side that can compete for just about everything. Spuds, Villa, Everton and Liverpool cannot say the same and they all need to borrow to buy unlike Arsenal.

 

[soze]

You don't need to borrow anything, Wenger has a warchest and you posted a £35 million profit in February AFTER meeting all your debt payments. To say you need to borrow to buy is plain misleading.

Again its is not just about now a 20 million pound player costs the initial free and then £26,000,000 in wages based on 5 years at £100k a week. The buying has never been a problem but absorbing another £5m into the wage structure is. The club run with the budget based on not qualifying for the champions league and only filling x amount of the stadium. So yes right now we can afford 5 players on 100k but if we drop out of the CL we are left with wage commitments we can not meet. It might not make sense to everyone but it is the best way to run the club.

 

[megadave]

Hahahaha, cracked up for hours at Joe Cole yesterday!

 

[cHodAX]

Again its is not just about now a 20 million pound player costs the initial free and then £26,000,000 in wages based on 5 years at £100k a week. The buying has never been a problem but absorbing another £5m into the wage structure is. The club run with the budget based on not qualifying for the champions league and only filling x amount of the stadium. So yes right now we can afford 5 players on 100k but if we drop out of the CL we are left with wage commitments we can not meet. It might not make sense to everyone but it is the best way to run the club.

Oh come on, there are plenty of good players around for a damn sight less than £20 million, Wenger is an expert at finding them.

 

[Embattle]

Again its is not just about now a 20 million pound player costs the initial free and then £26,000,000 in wages based on 5 years at £100k a week. The buying has never been a problem but absorbing another £5m into the wage structure is. The club run with the budget based on not qualifying for the champions league and only filling x amount of the stadium. So yes right now we can afford 5 players on 100k but if we drop out of the CL we are left with wage commitments we can not meet. It might not make sense to everyone but it is the best way to run the club.

Sorry but with both those kind of replies you sure you shouldn't be supporting Liverpool instead.

 

[soze]

Oh come on, there are plenty of good players around for a damn sight less than £20 million, Wenger is an expert at finding them.

But if he buys them and then we don't win the treble people will bitch and moan that he should have got superstars

 

[soze]

Sorry but with both those kind of replies you sure you shouldn't be supporting Liverpool instead.

Yes i am thanks, we can't all support teams that do not have to worry about a budget. I really do not get your attitude you support a club that won the lottery good for you. I support a club that runs trying to stay with a positive balance and i suppose that give me different outlook.

 

[cHodAX]

But if he buys them and then we don't win the treble people will bitch and moan that he should have got superstars

Nonsense, that is a blatent dodge and you know it.

 

[soze]

Nonsense, that is a blatent dodge and you know it.

Yes, Yes and Yes lol. If we do not do something big in the transfer market by the 1st September I will be abit vexed. We have got cash and with all the players who have left we must have wages to spare. So if we do not sign someone it will be a cash of Wenger being stubborn over transfer fees.

 

[Embattle]

Yes i am thanks, we can't all support teams that do not have to worry about a budget. I really do not get your attitude you support a club that won the lottery good for you. I support a club that runs trying to stay with a positive balance and i suppose that give me different outlook.

Ah yes another classic from LFCs book of defence, yes you've spent nothing what so ever and we've spent billions every year.

Yes, Yes and Yes lol. If we do not do something big in the transfer market by the 1st September I will be abit vexed. We have got cash and with all the players who have left we must have wages to spare. So if we do not sign someone it will be a cash of Wenger being stubborn over transfer fees.

Which is all what people have suggested.

 

[soze]

Ah yes another classic from LFCs book of defence, yes you've spent nothing what so ever and we've spent billions every year.

OK show me where I said that? I was just trying to point out that while your fans want the manager sacked if you don't win something every year the amount of Arsenal fans wanting Wenger out is a minimal. IE different fans expect different things.

Which is all what people have suggested.

And as i have said plenty of times that is valid this year but has not been each of the last 5.

 

[megadave]

YouTube - Benfica 1-2 Académica -2010.08.15 (20h15)

nice xD


Hopefully see those Newcastle players shaving their moustaches later!

 

[Aph3x]

I doubt it, I reckon Joey "Lucky to still have a career" Barton and Kevin Nolan will be sporting those bad boys untill January!

 

[Vladamir]

YouTube - Spurs Sports News (Danielle Lloyd) | Channelbee

 

[Ch3tan]

quality, quality, pass and a fantastic finish from Berba.

 

[Vladamir]

Championship defending at its finest, bloody Toon