Str relic went bye bye....

[Cap'n Sissyfoo]

Nice to see some patriotism left in Albion.

Shame it seems to have come down to a matter of which realm is prepared to stay awake longest. I, for one, will never put a game above getting a decent night sleep and having a mega lie in on a Saturday/Sunday morning.

 

[secret]

erm sisifos, HB had 1 fg in active all day/night taking keeps, dont blame us, we even took 3 keeps that late night, an even claimed an upgraded one, so plz FO

 

[old.Odysseus]

Kirennia I would like to order 3 complete rams (ill get the wood myself)

I trust in Darksbane to arrange a raid and get us our rightful possessions back.

 

[Sisifos]

Originally posted by secret
erm sisifos, HB had 1 fg in active all day/night taking keeps, dont blame us, we even took 3 keeps that late night, an even claimed an upgraded one, so plz FO

Ok. Watch it here I m not saying Hb or GoL or FC etc are not interested for the realm. HB took the first keep back today. But did HB cooperate with rest of albs? (I ll answer...) - No. That's the deal.
Earlier today 6-7 fgs albs were trying to get keeps too but no HB came up then.Albs failed mainly cause of lack of experienced players, and some leadership-stuff - although we had rams.
Big guild seems to act on their own and ask for help from the rest of alb only when they saw fit.
Funny thing is (as i said before) that when the "big guilds" ask for help albion follows and help but when the rest of albion asks for help they ignore them.

 

[Herne]

Relics

Yeah, the relics are gone. shame that.

We can get them back unless the strange zone crash bug hits the alb raid again......

Yes, things can be organised better but not necessarily the big guilds are to blame there. How many times on /as have you heard an alliance member beg for DF to be opened, for them to not actually take part in any keep retake?

the 24/7 game thing doesn't cut it either. Don't know home many of you have read the news recently but at least 3 people have died because they didn't take regular breaks and get enough sleep/ food/ etc.... (1 korean played a game for 36 hours non-stop before dying)

People have to rest, fine the servers are open 24/7 and its war, but do the other realms not sleep???

I don't mean this as a flame, just as a reminder......

But no doubt flame away

Herne thehunter lvl 50 Mercenary
General of the Crack suicide sqaud

 

[poppamies]

well 300+ albs online at the time of the RR, i guess some of em could have stoped the first 5fg mids who bashed the first 2 doors down, before they got reinforcments.
But none of those 300+ albs botherd to even check ur relic keep.
U had the numbers to defend, and the RR started 21.00 on friday night, when mids started popin ur keeps, and at 10 cet (on what most mids live on) it was just to walk in and retrive the relics and walk em back to mid, since no one even tryed to block em at mmg.
So u can only blame urselfs.

 

[Trubble]

Why not just enjoy that you dont have to rush off to defend excalibur so you can stay in your emain zerg or level your necro. Its not like the mid will have any use of str relic if you outnumber them 5 to 1. Just make sure you meet hibs in huge numbers, as 2fg hibs can take out 80 albs.

 

[Skaven]

Originally posted by hint


Get real. This is a war.

Aye, but its a game also - and some people have to work on weekends.

 

[Trinilim]

I can see the headlines now:

GOA for trial due to numerous Albion suicides

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Originally posted by hint
i can't be aresed to repost my post from Gen topic so i'll C&P it.


What i don't get is why it is wrong to take a relic at 4am?

All it takes to take a Relic is to get enough people to storm the relic keep + however many you need to take out the defenders. If you can organise enough people to make a raid at 4 am then you deserve to get the relics.




Imagine we are Invadeing iraq with the "no raids off peek time" atitude.

British and US troups line up at the border. one of the oficers steps out and walk over to where the Iraqis are lined up half a mile the other side of the border.


"I say old boy are you ready to fight or do you want some more time to get ready?"

"Well we are a little short on men at the mo."

"Well we'll wait till you can get more then..... No tell you what why don't we send some of our boys back home eh? that'll even the odds up a bit."

"Why thank you that should be fair."

"Now how about the time any time suit you? any time to avoid? perhaps you have a holiday period coming up? would you like us to only invade dureing daylight hours?"



Get real. This is a war.

lol

you're the type of person that would probably track someone down and kill them irl if they stole your pull or sth.

 

[Treniel-]

same old same old sumthing goes wrong in our frontier so blame the RvR guilds...yeah that makes loads of sense...there most be maybe 200-250 ACTIVE members in HB GoL FC etc...and if u think we are on 24/7...ha idiot

Sisfos u just as much to blame as any other alb threads on here about alliance merging hardly do anything so get a few GMs together AND DO SUMTHING ABOUT IT.

HB FC or Strife are doubtful to move alliances though...its bad enough saying one line and geting pm'd by new members in guilds to stop spamming 20 guilds...oh dear god no

 

[brommix]

I have no problem with the bigger guilds take responsibility, but you must understand we work very much like smaller recognized guilds. Each guild has some leaders/movers who initiate things if those are not online then the guildies will be doing their own stuff doing quests levelling alts etc. Now on the matter of HB doing keep retakes and defense of realm I must respectfully disagree, From 10pm to 5am there were HB out in our frontier friday night, and i was leading keep retake raid untill like 5am that morning, not disregarding that when we failed on the last keeps, we had 8HB claiming and upgrading Caer Erasleigh 5:30 am! in the 2 weeks before that we have spent more than 3.5PP in door upgrades and repairs on keeps which we have mainly claimed in our own frontier! we held Benovyc for 6straight days and most of our RvR attention were kept there due to that. But its just not possible to be everywhere at all times i maybe get pmed 5 to 10 in an evening about raids either for rvr keep takes
quests loot, I will not ask guildies to stay online in obscene amounts of hours if they are tired, the only thing i can ask is to show up on force when people are online, if the leadership in HB recquires it, and I try to enforce that quite hard (maybe to hard at times ). To the mids i will congratulate them on a seemingly well planned raid, nice timing and planning it seems but most of all alot of commitment from the middie realm.

 

[Sisifos]

Again brommix same reply to you as to Treniel before. I m not saying you don't care about albion and keeps I m saying there is no cooperation and communication. ONLY when YOU want to. When we need you(the albion - u are part of albion too), YOU never help.
At friday we needed help almost all day from the midday till late at night. You were there I know it(at HW) but you didn't care organizing with the rest of the albs. Yesterday we ve tried take keeps midday - we made 2-3 retries and we were yelling for help all over CS we took rams and stuff (a couple of ur members came along, so u can't tell u didn't know about it). About 3-4 hours after this u decided to go and retake keep on ur own. Same old story.

The most of "good" things (such as relic takes etc) have been done at albion when those "big guilds" participated - organized smthin and albion came along(that's a fact and u know it and it can't be random), when they did that they took their "bravos" and the credit. So learn to take the blame too except of the credit.

I hope u understand now what I mean.

Cheers.

 

[thrylos]

Originally posted by Sisifos

Funny thing is (as i said before) that when the "big guilds" ask for help albion follows and help but when the rest of albion asks for help they ignore them.

This is so f'ckin true =\

 

[appollo creed]

Can we all put out toys back in our prams and get our relics back.

We cant have a dig @ HB FC or Strife when it goes bad.

All albs are to blame, Fri nite no 1 took keeps back.

Lets all have a grp hug and sort it peeps.

 

[Herbal Remedy]

having got in at 130 am i was shall we say a wee bit mangled but there was only 5 lvl 50 gol online at the time 3 of which did try to help but no one got anything sorted, lets face it there was enough albs in that cg i saw to sort the problem but no one tried to organise anything and hence everyone ran round like headless chickens getting farmed.

By 5 am we had how ever recovered all but 2 of our keeps. Which means the mids came again after 530 and retook em before relic, sorry i dont know about u alot but if mids want to be such sad gutless cunts, if theyre prepared to stay up all nigjht taking keeps then relic raid at 9 am with 200 people to take relics fuck em.


Fear not though midgard will be punished

I know myself and quiet a few others are all ready talking in dark places about the distructaion of midgard.

 

[lac_desariel]

Heres an Idea for those that care.... Get a little book and note the people you can rely on and trust.. That way when you need 1 FG or 15 FG depending on what you do you got more chance off getting it.. Ohh also some guilds requrie some notice too...
I do have a book with Names for diferent stuff from just Gropups to Relic Raid Leaders and Advice, If you want help PM me in game.

Example... RvR guild (as Sisfos puts it) happens to be doing a Raid in LB for example.. I know God forbid it RvR guild do other things to RVR too :/

Keeps go down and they are about another gazillion guilds that also can Log mains and mobalise to takekeeps... if the situation is bad i bet those people 9 /10 will suiside /release and help...
BUT i tell you this theres enought people in albion to take relics WITH OUT likes of FC GOL HB and STRIFE just to name the guilds you said.. how ever those guys put most there time in to RvR hence one would like to think know mostly what they do in RvR, Just Like some Guilds are Trader based and realy do know there stuff there.

Also I belive this Relic take has Done Albion some good.... WHY?? i hear you ask... Albions were starting to belive the Excalibure was Un Breachable.. Just like the Hibbers did with There Power Relics a long time back.. We grew complacent and expeceted tio log ion each morning and see albion with 3 relics... GONE and now we start back to basic grass Roots.

on a Personal note if im on I am willing to help take keeps however standing at the Port doesnt help by shouting come get our keeps back, If people see and organised force then they will come.. Ive dont it i know i got Ignored also.

All in all I offer my suport to Sisfos as i have also tried this uniting Albion and tried getting it singing from same song sheet.. But dont point the fingure at any one guild or player cos that wont unite but just split Albion.

 

[Legaoniel_v]

Relics

You know guys, the more we seek blame the less time we'll spend on getting them back! Look at this way - hell, when all is done and dusted, it's a game, and surely the aim of any game is to overcome some sort of challenge?

Having Albion sitting on 3 relics has obviously made us complacent, and now we have aims to acheive once again!

So - mids made a clean sweep of the board and well done for that - but they better watch their borders from now -

ALBION ARE COMING FOR YOU!!

 

[AbPoon]

Yuz we are so scared, you spend so much time blaiming each other you'll never get on the port pad.

But no your fine with your broken alliances and none existant leadership, honestly ^^.

Hibs bother me as they know how to plan a raid and they have the leadership and can work together to do it, you just basicly hate each other too much to be a real threat as it stands, you have numbers but you dont have anything else, no drive no teamwork no leadership no real alliances.

 

[Trinilim]

Originally posted by AbPoon
Yuz we are so scared, you spend so much time blaiming each other you'll never get on the port pad.

But no your fine with your broken alliances and none existant leadership, honestly ^^.

Hibs bother me as they know how to plan a raid and they have the leadership and can work together to do it, you just basicly hate each other too much to be a real threat as it stands, you have numbers but you dont have anything else, no drive no teamwork no leadership no real alliances.

we kick your ass from time to time too, you forgot that on the list

 

[AbPoon]

Like at Bled again today?

Btw Albs Trin is one of your few people that hasnt got his own head rammed up his own arse and will try to help out, you just need to find more peeps that will do the same, i wouldnt look to your high RR peeps as most have shown where their interests are focused.

 

[Trinilim]

wasn't expecting a compliment from you ab, thanks

 

[hanne]

QUOTE:
Wrong Aussie, according to Mids all Albs were logged on, defending Excal. But as all Albs have a negative IQ, we were standing at the wrong door while they bashed down the main gate...


I was there and I only saw few albs (Keldon, Badjelly & another tank, and myself) (Only made it becourse logged there - )

I do not know where the mids found the albs BEFORE they where of with the first relic!

After that there where random small zergs/groups running scattered towards excal 2 make the remaining mid force not feel 2 sad about leaving (getting farmed in small number/time)

Other then seeing fellow albs running towards excal from CS, I was stuck with a SI-enging related error, that made me crash about 10 times GRRRRRRRRRRR..........
(random whining 4 GOA, not related)

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Hanne BubbleBobble cleric

 

[Flimgoblin]

9am for most people in albion.

373 logged in - how many over level 40?

How many deep in SI? in Lyonesse?
I bet we didn't even have 4fg running around Emain.

I've seen screenshots with at least 6 rams on the second gate...

People are saying "we shoulda seen it coming they had half our keeps".

It probably made it a bit easier for them - but with the numbers they had and the number of rams they weren't going to be stopped (someone quoted 150ish, which seems a bit more reasonable than 280)

We could have made it harder for them to get in - but that time of the morning against an organised raid, we're not going to be able to defend.

I say screw them - take it back 2am (that's not quite a 4am raid )

 

[Flimgoblin]

Originally posted by Trinilim


we kick your ass from time to time too, you forgot that on the list

we've had no reason to visit Midgard recently

Were it not for spies and zonecrashes we'd already have taken back (and no doubt subsequently lost ) Merlin's Staff.

 

[loxleyhood]

Tarnation, damnation and balderdash! Im away from the game for just 3 days and you already lose the relics! Pah!

 

[BrassMonkey]

Well relics are over rated imo....Mythic wouldn't put relics in as so powerful that if one realm had them all they'd own all cus then it makes people leave/re-roll the realm with all relics....

Granted relic raids are fun and a measure of skill/co-operation but if your getting really pissed off at losing those relics don't you think your taking this game a little too seriously?

And anyone who is RvR "must have relics" type see it as a challenge and enjoy trying to beat that challenge.

 

[trailblazer]

I'm just a lowly level 35 wizard, I've only just begun in RvR with BG3, I'm yet to discover the "joys" of the big league RvR. But I felt an extraordinary need to reply to this thread.
I love Albion, I'm very patriotic about it and after seeing our keeps and relics taken on Saturday by Midgard I was saddened. Moreso for the fact that I could do nothing to help take them back, yet I had faith in my fellow Albs that they would rush to the cause and reclaim what is ours. After the hours rolled by, there was still no change in /realm status. I simply imagined albs were fighting long, hard, tough battles in a desperate attempt to win back our pride. Eventually we took a few keeps back, but if I read some early posts right it was basically one guild who took them, without seeking help of other albs.

Lets look at this thread. Mids yelling at Albs, Hibs yelling at Albs, Albs yelling at Mids, Albs yelling at other Albs. It doesnt matter where you all point the finger of blame, the reality is we have found ourselves in a situation, and we need to get ourselves out of it. Its our responsibility to restore order to our realm.

I cant do much as a lvl 35 fire wiz, but heck I would stand alone in front of 5fg Mids and fire a bolt at the first Mid that came within range, just to show that someone in Albion is still willing to fight to win back our pride. Sure I would die in the blink of an eye, but odds are unimportant. Its the demonstration of willingness to act that shines through.

Albion has the numbers, now all we need is the communication and coordination to fight our cause.

Its not how likely you are of achieving success, its remembering what it is you are fighting for. I have always had faith in my fellow Albs and look forward to the day where I can do my part.

 

[trailblazer]

On a side note....

I have been on DAOC at 9am GMT for the past two saturdays. We saw Mids take near-all Alb keeps at 9am this Saturday gone, I'm sure I remember Mids taking near-all Hib keeps the exact same time a week before they did with us. If anything else it was a clear indication of the time Mids do these things, we could've learnt from that event.

 

[aavarn]

Originally posted by trailblazer

I cant do much as a lvl 35 fire wiz, but heck I would stand alone in front of 5fg Mids and fire a bolt at the first Mid that came within range, just to show that someone in Albion is still willing to fight to win back our pride. Sure I would die in the blink of an eye, but odds are unimportant. Its the demonstration of willingness to act that shines through.

Great attitude mate. The truth is its not so long ago that Alb had 6/6 relics and Midgard were in the position of constantly getting crapped on. Then Hib got the Power relics but we were still the realm with no relics.

It took exactly that sort of attitude and a new spirit of cooperation to build Mid into the the group of players that now defend our realms rabidly and will grab up arms at the slightest hint of an excursion into foreign lands. It started (once we had grabbed a relic back to defend) with really committed defence - if someone on alliance shouted that we had serious numbers of invaders coming into the frontier we ALL dropped what we were doing and rushed to the relic keep and having got there we then decided what forces we would distribute for keep retakes, etc.. Now it is possible for 2 keeps to be attacked and more than 1 enemy realm to attack us so its not quite as straightforward and I suspect times are going to be tough in Mid.

Sure Midgard has SI to play with too, but its not like SI is going anywhere is it? It will still be there tomorrow, and the day after, etc. Being bound in SI shouldn't be a problem or an excuse for failing to defend - you can bind near the teleport back to your telepad Frontier Keep (unless that is just Mid - but I doubt it). If you have the pride in your realm - take the death, see the healer and port to your frontier keep and then to realm defence... shouldnt take longer than 90 seconds and the xp will still spawn in SI when you get back there.