StarCraft2 Beta Announced

[LordjOX]

You should watch a few replays posted on youtube and various other sites for some inspiration of how to get better at your play.

Stuff like scouting, to find out what your enemy is building to make a decent counter is very important. Plus always keeping the pressure up

 

[mooSe_]

Arrrgh I want to play so much now. I guess it's good I can't though because I have loads of work to do.

Yeah watching recs is always important to improving.

 

[Mabs]

Arrrgh I want to play so much now. I guess it's good I can't though because I have loads of work to do.

Yeah watching recs is always important to improving.

got a spare beta account then ?

 

[mooSe_]

I think I'd rather sell it on ebay for like £200 thanks

 

[kirennia]

You should watch a few replays posted on youtube and various other sites for some inspiration of how to get better at your play.

Stuff like scouting, to find out what your enemy is building to make a decent counter is very important. Plus always keeping the pressure up

Wasn't sure if this was aimed at me but I did just this and it has made a hell of a lot of a difference. More then anything, tweaks to resource collection and learning how to mix units in certain situations. It allows you to click a unit and properly analyse exactly what stats it has; if you thought the original needed to mix units, this does it on a whole other level.

Terran/Zerg and protoss all have fantastic resource 'buffs' which simply cannot be avoided. If you struggle with early rushes, this is the reason why... along with what to do from the word go. Terran, block the entrance and place marines behind supply depots there (only building which can be lowered into the floor), Protoss build a few gateways and turn them into warp gates (researched at cybernetics core) to spam a mix of pretty much all of the units and Zerg, 1 queen per base, zerglings and banelings...spam.

Much more fun now that I know how to counter attacks. It does seem a little odd playing a strategy game where matches rarely last past 30 minutes though and being defensive is pretty much useless. The Team Fortress of strategy games?

 

[Wij]

Wasn't sure if this was aimed at me but I did just this and it has made a hell of a lot of a difference. More then anything, tweaks to resource collection and learning how to mix units in certain situations. It allows you to click a unit and properly analyse exactly what stats it has; if you thought the original needed to mix units, this does it on a whole other level.

Terran/Zerg and protoss all have fantastic resource 'buffs' which simply cannot be avoided. If you struggle with early rushes, this is the reason why... along with what to do from the word go. Terran, block the entrance and place marines behind supply depots there (only building which can be lowered into the floor), Protoss build a few gateways and turn them into warp gates (researched at cybernetics core) to spam a mix of pretty much all of the units and Zerg, 1 queen per base, zerglings and banelings...spam.

Much more fun now that I know how to counter attacks. It does seem a little odd playing a strategy game where matches rarely last past 30 minutes though and being defensive is pretty much useless. The Team Fortress of strategy games?

Playing defensive in RTS has been pretty uncommon for years now. It didn't do much good in AoM orr DoW and they're the only ones I really played.

 

[mooSe_]

Yeah 30 minutes sounds like a good long time in most rts games I have played

Playing defensive in RTS has been pretty uncommon for years now. It didn't do much good in AoM orr DoW and they're the only ones I really played.

I think playing defensive is especially bad in DoW because you depend upon constant map control for your economy. Similarly but less importantly in AoM you need to capture settlements in order to compete late game, which means you can't just turtle all day. Having to take map control means that you are going to have to come into contact with your opponent very quickly.

But even in other rts games I would agree, take AoE3 for example (which I currently play). You usually aren't required to capture anything far away from your base in order to compete (with a few small exceptions) and yet a game that goes to 30+ minutes is always considered 'late game', similar is true in AoE2 and SC as far as I remember.

I think it's just the more competitive the level you play at, the more aggressive players are. And starcraft is a very competitive game, so players are generally aggressive by default.

 

[Wij]

Well, as a Loki Rusher or Thor Boat Boomer I didn't experience many games that went beyond 15 mins Only time I tried defensive was with Hades.

And my DoW career mainly involved throwing my bolt up Ch3tan's ring

 

[kirennia]

Interestingly it appears to be possible to at least watch replays without having the beta key already...

It's nice to be able to inspect certain units to get a greater understanding of the game at least.

 

[mooSe_]

You can also play singleplayer without a beta key, but I'm not sure if that's the kinda thing we are allowed to talk about on these forums if you know what I mean.

 

[kirennia]

You can also play singleplayer without a beta key, but I'm not sure if that's the kinda thing we are allowed to talk about on these forums if you know what I mean.

Aye mate, I just meant without a hooky copy of the thing.

 

[mooSe_]

Oh right I didn't realise that. Shame I can't even watch recs since I can't download the bloody client yet

 

[LordjOX]

Wasn't sure if this was aimed at me but I did just this and it has made a hell of a lot of a difference. More then anything, tweaks to resource collection and learning how to mix units in certain situations. It allows you to click a unit and properly analyse exactly what stats it has; if you thought the original needed to mix units, this does it on a whole other level.

Terran/Zerg and protoss all have fantastic resource 'buffs' which simply cannot be avoided. If you struggle with early rushes, this is the reason why... along with what to do from the word go. Terran, block the entrance and place marines behind supply depots there (only building which can be lowered into the floor), Protoss build a few gateways and turn them into warp gates (researched at cybernetics core) to spam a mix of pretty much all of the units and Zerg, 1 queen per base, zerglings and banelings...spam.

Much more fun now that I know how to counter attacks. It does seem a little odd playing a strategy game where matches rarely last past 30 minutes though and being defensive is pretty much useless. The Team Fortress of strategy games?

Yep, it was aimed at you

I've not played SC multiplayer on battle.net since 2002 or so and consider myself a pretty amateur player. But with some simple set-pieces and tricks you won't die from rushes all the time or lose all the time

I've watched a fair play of replays commented by this guy on youtube which I find fairly decent:
YouTube - BlizShouter's Channel

I prefer replays with comments since they sometimes enlighten me on stuff I would normally ignore or fail to catch

I guess turtling- or building up defenses before offense forces is a natural thing to do for new players. But SC is so fast paced you really want to stay on your toes all the time. Although being defensive can win fights, it just depends on the opponent. Basically if he loses more resources in a fight than you did- you won the fight

It's all about using the resources you get most effectively and inflicting as much damage you can, even a pyrrhic strategic victory might have been worth it

 

[Lethul]

Zerg, 1 queen per base, zerglings and banelings...spam.

Just a little tip, if you have your 2 first expansions 1 queen is enough of you like micro Run back and fourth and the cooldown for spawn larva is enough for 2 hives/lairs/whatever they are called

 

[mooSe_]

apparently everyone who got a key now gets an extra key to invite a friend

 

[Lethul]

There is a lot of total noobs on battle.net, people who dont even realize you have to build units pretty much

 

[mooSe_]

what league are you in?

 

[Lethul]

what league are you in?

I'm waiting for ladder reset! I'm using an friends old account and its in platinum. So mainly playing custom 2on2/1on1s atm.

 

[mooSe_]

Ah fair enough. Yeah I'm still playing my placement matches now, but it will probably reset by the time I have finished them lol.
Liking zerg atm.

 

[ECA]

Got in today, 2 mins left on client download ohmigosh ohmigosh.

 

[kirennia]

Anyone want a 2vs2 game? I'm getting fed up of people who don't know how to attack/defend properly...

 

[LordjOX]

Do wants

 

[Lethul]

anyone online now ?

 

[mooSe_]

mooSe.unreal in case anyone wants to add me. I haven't played any team games at all yet, but I could give it a try

 

[Lethul]

mooSe.unreal in case anyone wants to add me. I haven't played any team games at all yet, but I could give it a try

what league are oyu in ?

 

[kirennia]

Kirennian.kirennian.

Bronze for both as I haven't really played the thing much. The problem is getting two opponents in 2vs2 which have a set build right from the offset which can't be countered with a pub grouping, especially with potential language barriers... Would love to have a go at proper teaming.

 

[Talyn]

I'm in, I played 2 of the setup matches, then went and bought SC & Brood war off the Blizzard store. Not been back to SC II yet!

 

[mooSe_]

I'm in copper atm The placement matches were my first ever sc games so I had no idea what I was doing. but I'm in 3rd place in my division of 100 people now so tbh I reckon I could do ok in bronze. I never really played sc1, I've always been an age of empires player, so it takes some getting used to.

 

[Huntingtons]

givf key =(

 

[mooSe_]

Got to first in copper and now I'm promoted to bronze league currently in 9th in my division.