Speed 5 & Speed 6 - Instamez vs Boltrange

[Flimgoblin]

It was such a good thread at the beginning too... shame it's just turned into spam

This locking dedicated to pocket calculators everywhere.

 

[Flimgoblin]

reopened because Aussie asked nicely and promised not to spam...
(and that he had some useful stats to post)

 

[Aussie]

for my m8 cgr calculation for Aug healer speed + Sprint

@ speed 5 : 397 range / sec
@ speed 6 : 533 range / sec

sprint adds 136 range / sec

speed 5 = 204%
aug healer @ 35 spec = 146%

(397/204)*146 = 284 range / sec aug healer without sprint
means a sorcer has the advantage against an enemy with speed '3' not sprinting.
Adding the 136 range / sec from sprinting you get 420 range / sec

means aug healer + sprint is a little faster then speed 5.

Sorcer advantage : 385
Distance Midgroup runs at aug healer speed : 420*1,2sec (Cap speed mez) = 503

So final conclusion

Mids/Hibs wins @ speed 5 + sprint
Mids/Hibs wins @ speed 5
Mids/Hibs wins @ speed 3 + sprint
Albs wins @ speed 3

 

[Light]

Albs wins @ speed 3

damn them overpowerd albs!

 

[Hotrats]

its 7.5 minutes if u know how to use it, or even 10 if u can be arsed to make ur temp around it

Please explain

 

[flex]

just use them with resist buffs down & take all ur gear with body resist off, but cba tbh ;p

 

[Lothandar]

Tru...shud have been posting logs too

Here are the people who care :





















































Yes, noone does.

 

[Meduza]

graduated software engineer :worthy:

well, gratz on that! thought the "4 months vacation" was due to being unemplyed my bad...

 

[Arindra]

Note that if the two groups are moving directly toward each other then collsion speed is effectively something like speed 10-12.

If we allow for some angle other than head on, a realistic closing speed is more like 7-800 ups if both groups use speed 5 or 6.

 

[Fluid]

Please explain

seeing as i don't play exc now etc the bt on ceremonial is bugged, its duration is altered by ur body resists, if u got 0% body when u can it lasts 10 mins, 25% body lasts 7.5 mins, 50% body lasts 5mins

 

[anubis]

means aug healer + sprint is a little faster then speed 5.

i played with skald and with rm, with sprint and without
and i feel like skald (or bard) w/o sprint is faster than aug + sprint
red rm speed + sprint is equal (maybe even faster) to skald speed w/o sprint, but not aug healer
did you test it or just calculated?

 

[Aussie]

i played with skald and with rm, with sprint and without
and i feel like skald (or bard) w/o sprint is faster than aug + sprint
red rm speed + sprint is equal (maybe even faster) to skald speed w/o sprint, but not aug healer
did you test it or just calculated?

"feel"
I have no idea how correct those numbers are on camelotseer. It just says speed5 = 204% and 35aug = 146%. calculated like that.

 

[Aussie]

and RM speed is like only 8% faster(154), you must have a rly good 'feeling'

 

[anubis]

yea, but why do you think 146% + sprint > 204%?
i can assure you it's less

if sprint is 50%, then aug + sprint is 196% and rm + sprint is 204% == skald
this i believe

 

[Arnor]

i can guaran-fucking-tee you that rm speed+sprint != skald speed.


math schmath and calculations schmalculations, I know this from where it matters, ingame oO

 

[Driwen]

if sprint is 50%, then aug + sprint is 196% and rm + sprint is 204% == skald
this i believe

thing is the way aussie thinks sprint works, it is more than 50%.

standard running would be at 194.6 units/sec and sprint adds 136 units/sec according to him no matter what speed you have. So sprint adds 70%

 

[cougar]

Albion IS easy mode with the almost present stealther/fg adds on most of the fights and even without adds sorcerer range,theurgist pets and sos bof give very good winning chances to good alb groups

prydwen albs talk the truuuufff

 

[Earath]

You still here Cougar? Thought you'd be off somewhere else defending yourself against 28 buff exploit whine threads by now, btw plz tell me why you need waterbreathing on land as a savage, is it incase you fall in the lake?

 

[cougar]

You still here Cougar? Thought you'd be off somewhere else defending yourself against 28 buff exploit whine threads by now, btw plz tell me why you need waterbreathing on land as a savage, is it incase you fall in the lake?

first of all i very seldom use it anyway, tell me someone who seen me have too many effects last weeks? i saved my defensive shouts for fluid and that italian hero.dont need any bonus vs alb nQQbs

secondly

 

[Arnor]

You still here Cougar? Thought you'd be off somewhere else defending yourself against 28 buff exploit whine threads by now, btw plz tell me why you need waterbreathing on land as a savage, is it incase you fall in the lake?

ml10 bm style!!!!!!!!!!111

 

[Claudius]

Albion IS easy mode with the almost present stealther/fg adds on most of the fights and even without adds sorcerer range,theurgist pets and sos bof give very good winning chances to good alb groups

prydwen albs talk the truuuufff

Cougar is such an expert on flame-baits.

Dont fight at mile gates or near the road from telekeeps to milegates if you dont want stealther adds. Mids are as good as albs to add. Its rare you see hib stealth adds in emain, its usually only in odins.

Hibs have group purge, Mids have 3-4 det tanks and 3 demezzers. The only realm that really have issues with being mezzed is Albs. Given the nature of emain, the only way to really get utility of the sorc range would be to install radar, so you could be ready in full range when the enemies comes. Most fights in emain are around hilltops, milegates and other places where the range is much shorter.

Theurgist have been nerfed by TOA, so they are not so strong anymore. Still useful, but not strong.

70% of all kills is made by casters in RvR now. SOS+BOF is for melee oriented groups which is a thing of the past in Albion, because all realms now have strong melee defence like bodyguard (and albs dont have enough zephyres to counter this). SOS+BOF is still useful for a caster group, but wont help much against strong nukers.

Conclusion, its been too long since Pbuck ran a lot of Alb groups or he is starting to get clueless on his old days.

Finally, alb could perform much better than they currently do on Excal, but atm they are demoralized by the fact that if they play their best they would still loose to mids/hibs that played their best. IMO.

 

[bahamot]

spammers

 

[Fluid]

first of all i very seldom use it anyway, tell me someone who seen me have too many effects last weeks? i saved my defensive shouts for fluid and that italian hero.dont need any bonus vs alb nQQbs

secondly

waj me? i thought u lubbed me :<

 

[Belomar]

Aren't you going to get up on that high horse and say how much your group rocks Excal again, Fluid? Only you cba to go back to Excal and put your money where your mouth is and show them skilless Excal Mids cuz j00 just know dey R free arrrpeees! xD

 

[vintervargen]

belomar your break from daoc is affecting your health

you even used 'xD' ://

 

[cougar]

Aren't you going to get up on that high horse and say how much your group rocks Excal again, Fluid? Only you cba to go back to Excal and put your money where your mouth is and show them skilless Excal Mids cuz j00 just know dey R free arrrpeees! xD

His group is kinda best enemies ive played vs lately on excal so i fink u need to find another angel on the belo

 

[vintervargen]

His group is kinda best enemies ive played vs lately on excal so i fink u need to find another angel on the belo

you havn't met my champ tho ~:[

 

[cougar]

you havn't met my champ tho ~:[

meant group, not a solo r0xstar like you

 

[Fluid]

Aren't you going to get up on that high horse and say how much your group rocks Excal again, Fluid? Only you cba to go back to Excal and put your money where your mouth is and show them skilless Excal Mids cuz j00 just know dey R free arrrpeees! xD

NP were never free rp's nor were groove, BC however, were and if u think 8 of us can be arsed to go back to excal when we don't want to play there at all just because BC want to fight us then ur off ur head. DH don't play hib, RR don't play hib, we don't play hib, pbuck arid fame jahar etc don't play hib now too iirc, so thats a hell of a lot of the better plays who left, then again you ain't played in a looooooooong time so haven't seen this.

edit: oh and before anyone gays it up, there are still some very good players on hib/exc but nowhere near as many as their were, dunno why so many people left hib over the last few months but they have.