Shadowlord Society stealing Guard of Valor

[Marc]

Pfft...i remember who our GM's are (the ones who remain loyal to SS anyway )

oi! im still a member of SS and rank 0

 

[Edaemos]

There wasn't a GM on at the time marche, thats what he means, there was only 1 officer on when i logged on to quickly ask tepes what had happened.

No response yet from the original poster or his group as to why tepes got all the adds and they got danos, when thier minstrel certainly didnt run the guards to town as tepes killed them.

 

[Edaemos]

SS again ?

Coming from you this is hilarious, you are the ironheart of artifact encounters.

OMG CAAMMMMPPPPEDDD, ITS CAMPPPEEDDD GO AWAY OR I TELL YOUR GM

 

[Jugvayne]

Coming from you this is hilarious, you are the ironheart of artifact encounters.

OMG CAAMMMMPPPPEDDD, ITS CAMPPPEEDDD GO AWAY OR I TELL YOUR GM

Hmm, well maybe he only says that to SS, since they have the great reputation of stealing encounters.

 

[Edaemos]

Hmm, well maybe he only says that to SS, since they have the great reputation of stealing encounters.

Really? i wasn't in SS when he yelled it to me, so thats kinda pissed on your bonfire hasn't it

 

[Jugvayne]

Really? i wasn't in SS when he yelled it to me, so thats kinda pissed on your bonfire hasn't it

Not really, since I was making the point SS have that rep anyway.

 

[Platin]

My reference to you only being a fh member for 20 seconds was infering that you may not be aware of what these kind of threads end up like. Its hard though, to be impartial when someone has bad mouthed something you care about. Why do you think I am so actively involved in this thread? Because I care about SS. I happen to think its the best guild on the server because of the people in it but all people on the outside see is a thread "SHADOWLORDS STEAL BLAH BLAH BLAH" which couldnt be more further than the truth. If shadowlords are stealing artifacts, we would of stole Tartoros from prodigy when the gm's and senior officers were there. We would of stole Malices from someguy who was dying over and over to it with his buffbot. We rezzed him for the 3rd time, gave him a hand, he got the artifact, we went on our way. 3fgs of people, set back 45 minutes on an artifact that we could of just taken because he kept dying. SS like any other guild, cannot police their members 24/7. Sometimes, situations occur that are out of the seniors hands and 9 times out of 10 an impartial view is taken to try and sort out the mess but when someone comes along with all guns blazing, its going to be hard to take an impartial view.

Okay then I got a few questions for you, from us who are not educated in the complicated arts of FH-diplomacy.

1. Was the full group that took the artifact after we had killed it - from Shadowlords?
2. Do you think it's possible for a person who hasn't been educated in this yet - to make the assumption that a guild is responsible for it's own members (especially since it was 7-8 people)?
3. Could it be possible that the person did have a hard time reaching your gm's and did not know where to discuss this?
4. Could it be you're just looking for an excuse to change the subject since you don't wanna deal with it in guild?

 

[Edaemos]

Not really, since I was making the point SS have that rep anyway.

You said "maybe he only says that to SS" as i gave an example of how he continually yells camped etc if you go near an arti hes camping.

I pointed out that i wasn't in SS when he did this therefore not only does he "maybe" do this to just SS, but also others therefore hes in no right position to moan in this thread.

 

[scorge]

Okay then I got a few questions for you, from us who are not educated in the complicated arts of FH-diplomacy.

1. Was the full group that took the artifact after we had killed it - from Shadowlords?
2. Do you think it's possible for a person who hasn't been educated in this yet - to make the assumption that a guild is responsible for it's own members (especially since it was 7-8 people)?
3. Could it be possible that the person did have a hard time reaching your gm's and did not know where to discuss this?
4. Could it be you're just looking for an excuse to change the subject since you don't wanna deal with it in guild?

Its all a matter of who hit Danos first, What abouts if Requiel says that it was SS who hit it first? What abouts if due to Lag you missed them hitting it, and vice versa of course SS may not of seen you hit it. You will look a bit foolish if it was SS that got the first hit in, then again SS are not going to do there reputation any good if they did it.

Either way one of you will be eating humble pie

Wait till they have looked at the logs

i take it somone has right nowed it?

 

[Edaemos]

Okay then I got a few questions for you, from us who are not educated in the complicated arts of FH-diplomacy.

1. Was the full group that took the artifact after we had killed it - from Shadowlords?
2. Do you think it's possible for a person who hasn't been educated in this yet - to make the assumption that a guild is responsible for it's own members (especially since it was 7-8 people)?
3. Could it be possible that the person did have a hard time reaching your gm's and did not know where to discuss this?
4. Could it be you're just looking for an excuse to change the subject since you don't wanna deal with it in guild?

Was you at the encounter in question?

If so can you tell me how you dealt with danos adds, as he comes with 3 purple adds and sometimes a few patrollers.

 

[Jugvayne]

You said "maybe he only says that to SS" as i gave an example of how he continually yells camped etc if you go near an arti hes camping.

I pointed out that i wasn't in SS when he did this therefore not only does he "maybe" do this to just SS, but also others therefore hes in no right position to moan in this thread.

Lol, so he only camps them, he doesn't steal them like SS do, so yes he does have a right to moan.

Edit: anyway, a two word statement is hardly a moan, wouldn't you agree?

 

[Heath]

Okay then I got a few questions for you, from us who are not educated in the complicated arts of FH-diplomacy.

1. Was the full group that took the artifact after we had killed it - from Shadowlords?
2. Do you think it's possible for a person who hasn't been educated in this yet - to make the assumption that a guild is responsible for it's own members (especially since it was 7-8 people)?
3. Could it be possible that the person did have a hard time reaching your gm's and did not know where to discuss this?
4. Could it be you're just looking for an excuse to change the subject since you don't wanna deal with it in guild?

1.)nobody said it was a FG of SS that did it...only about 2/3/4
2.) When a guild tries to police every single member, it stops being a fun game. And, you cannot police everybody in the guild 24/7. If you were told by your GM to not do an arti or something..what would you do. Say "okay, you are the GM..i follow all your rules 100%"?..or think to yourself "fuck it..i pay for the game..i do what i want" ?
3.) Even if he had a hard time reaching the GM (which, looking at his posting time) was very early hours of the morning, why did he come straight to FH ??. I am sure it could have waited until we had more members (and GM online), Did he even ask if a GM or senior could PM him or his GM when one became available??.
4.) Who has changed the subject so far ??...not us. We are still waiting for the explanation of the adds...and this comment bugs me too

We let SS guys kill Eremai then we pulled Danos but they somehow got the agro,

If you had pulled first..how can they "somehow get the aggro" ??...By all accounts, they had the aggro anyway!.

And, Platin..where was it said that we don't want to deal with this inguild??...if i remember, it was right after the possibility of dealing with it inguild was blown out of the water by bringing it to FH for everybody outofguild to see and comment on. Wanting to deal with it inguild would have been the best option. We didn't bring it here...Xfied did,,,,remember that.

And to Ase and Jugvayne....look to yourselves and your own people before commenting on others...People in glass houses should not throw stones i believe is the saying. Or...Pot-Kettle-Black.
P.S ...Platin...were you in the group of peeps when it happened to them??...cos you seem to be their spokesperson on FH. I am still waiting to hear from Xfied, or a Gm or see the logs. Wonder how long we will have to wait for either !.

 

[Edaemos]

Lol, so he only camps them, he doesn't steal them like SS do, so yes he does have a right to moan.

Edit: anyway, a two word statement is hardly a moan, wouldn't you agree?

The 2 word statement was a smart arse comment, as for stealing artifacts i don't know any SS who steal artifacts but i sure as hell know GoL member(s) who use ML6 Soj spell to get SoM so the group about to do it gets nothing.

Before you critsize other guilds its always nice to make sure your own guild is always fair, even when this person(s) did this it wasn't brought here with "GoL steals yet another artifact".

I don't know about others in SS, but if an artifact is stolen from me which it has been a few times, i contact the guilds GM or Games master then rightnow it if nothing is resolved.

 

[Marc]

Okay then I got a few questions for you, from us who are not educated in the complicated arts of FH-diplomacy.

1. Was the full group that took the artifact after we had killed it - from Shadowlords?
2. Do you think it's possible for a person who hasn't been educated in this yet - to make the assumption that a guild is responsible for it's own members (especially since it was 7-8 people)?
3. Could it be possible that the person did have a hard time reaching your gm's and did not know where to discuss this?
4. Could it be you're just looking for an excuse to change the subject since you don't wanna deal with it in guild?

1. Of no relevance what so ever. Did shadowlords steal the artifact? The way I see it, a member was accused (which by the way, looks like horseshit anyway). Its like saying First Cohort steal SoM cos Aussie abuses the soj line. So you are saying your own guild steal SoM correct? Of course not.
2. Hello!! Welcome to the real world. As I said, its impossible to monitor every single member 24/7. What do you want SS to do? Designate a senior officer per member to follow them around and babysit them all day?
3. Maybe, but wouldnt it be common sense to ask a member for our website addy (and dont give me the "he may not of known you had a webiste)given that 99% of active guilds have a site or forum. The original poster knows what he was doing, he knows that posting on FH all sorts of insults/acusations will be thrown about
4. Rofl. Being a GM of SS (albeit inactive) I still have access to SS's officer forum (senior officer and GM access only) and every single artifact stealing accusation wether it be made on a public forum or in game is discussed and if necessary action is taken.

You were there yet you are quite happy to stick up for the poster, yet you wont answer the questions being asked of you ie, how come you didnt get the adds, only Danos. I give to you, that you have kept your mouth shut because you know nothing of the sort went on. Prove me wrong.

 

[Platin]

You were there yet you are quite happy to stick up for the poster, yet you wont answer the questions being asked of you ie, how come you didnt get the adds, only Danos. I give to you, that you have kept your mouth shut because you know nothing of the sort went on. Prove me wrong.

For all I know and saw, they could have pulled patrollers and we pulled Danos or the other way around. Bottom line is, did Xfieds grp take him down from 100%-death - yes. Did the "tepes group" add on the last few % yes, did it look to me like it got stolen yes. Is this an objective view - yes.

Was that my point? No

It was that the first time you saw this post, you told everybody you didn't give a shit since he had posted on FH with that headline. Maybe I could explain his reasons but obviously you seem to take it personal believing the whole damn world will start a personal vendetta against your guild.

 

[Platin]

And there a damn big diffrence between a fg of people and one person.

How many do you think you would need, to be able to relate to them as a guild? 2fg? 3fg? Oh sorry, no. You have to check if anyone of them are gm's first, ofc silly me.

 

[StonyPony]

i read post 1-6 on page 1 of this thread then i skipped to last page to post an answer :

Daddy they stole my candy and i want it back....
If i got a cookie for everytime i got ripped of an arti ingame i'd weigh 200 kg now.
QQ less about pve, the only good QQ is rvr.

 

[Heath]

Platin...you are really starting to get get confused with what this post was about..and what you are trying to turn it into.
I am willing to hear any explanation of what happened. But, still you skate around what happened. How many SS were there??..you still did not answer that. It would be a good start to see the numbers. Then start spoting stuff about 2fgs..3 fgs !!....wtf are you on about. We are not on about how different guild police things. We are on about this arti encounter, to which...none of the accusing side has come on with anything that explains anything. It's all "from my POV" etc.

And, then you start on about how we should run SS...eh..where did that come into it?. The title of the post is "Shadowlords Society Stealing Guard Of Valour"..not.."How to police the Shadowlords Society...Leave Comments Below"

get back on track...back to the accusations and answer OUR questions...we have been good enough to answer yours.

 

[Marc]

And there a damn big diffrence between a fg of people and one person.

How many do you think you would need, to be able to relate to them as a guild? 2fg? 3fg? Oh sorry, no. You have to check if anyone of them are gm's first, ofc silly me.

Why is there a difference? the only difference is maybe 7 people. You cant blame a guild for the actions of 1 person and you cant blame a guild for the actions of 8 people. ANyway, its all academic because nothing has been proven about what happened, if anything, the tide is switching towards Tepes side of the story.

 

[Marc]

Considering Tepes can duo Danos i would estimate there was between 2 and 4 people there

 

[Chilly]

how can 1 person duo something?

 

[Jpeg[LOD]]

the CoC is a loada shite imo .... the CoC is just a exscuse people use for bein assholes...

i remember a time in daoc when people were (camped) at a mob spot etc etc (like oil rag mob was for example) then people respected that if it popped.it let the person there 1st take the kill and if died then take over (or in many cases rez and let em finish).

nowadays if summin like gov . cs ec etc pop people dont give any respect at all for people who may of been there for hours. or even just a few mins before. and take the mob.... and when they get whined at they use the CoC to the letter to make exscuses for themselves being twats. but there again thats just my opinion.


give backthe days of less greed imo . back then the community was a much more fun place and not everybody pointing fingers and slagging each other off as to whome hit the mob 1st etc.

p.s i agree with ss . really stupid thing to do if it was individuals from ss stealing an artifact.. but to blame the whole guild for actions of a few (if found guilty) then thats a very poor whine and will/is gonna get u instantly flamed.

 

[Marc]

how can 1 person duo something?

By grouping with someone. Sorry, didnt make myself clear, i should of said Danos can be duo'd

 

[Extraterestrial]

Stop this, is going to far.

Don't whine about SS, this has nothing to do with SS.

Me (Tepes) and other 2 irl friends were there, each playing 2 chars. 6 chars in total.

And now for XFied:

Report this to a GameMaster or to RightNow, they can check the logs.
Think about it first, you know what they can find out from logs:

- Tepes pulled Danos with Infuriate spell, Optymus (reaver from my grp) doted Danos, insta used on Danos and hit him with whyp.
- Mincer from other grp attack Danos with his pet (centaur patroller), aggroed Danos and track him to his grp. They all start hit Danos.
- Tepes and his grp still have all adds on them, killed all the adds, go close to other grp (who stole the pull) and ask them: "why you hit Danos after I pulled him?"
- They answered: "Non comprendes" ... the rest you know ...

If this will be ended with suspended account(s), will be your account(s) not mine, and you KNOW this.

 

[Moona]

Do you guys now that this is the 2549 thread where some peeps are fighting over +/_ 10000 poligons?

 

[pbaz]

Do you guys now that this is the 2549 thread where some peeps are fighting over +/_ 10000 poligons?

Do you know this is the 2549th thread where you've pointed this out about a game you don't even play any more?

 

[Skaven]

Proof:

I was on Danos night camp for 11 hours till he popped.

 

[Aybabtu]

i read post 1-6 on page 1 of this thread then i skipped to last page to post an answer :

Daddy they stole my candy and i want it back....
If i got a cookie for everytime i got ripped of an arti ingame i'd weigh 200 kg now.
QQ less about pve, the only good QQ is rvr.

Damn you must be 1337

 

[Jugvayne]

The 2 word statement was a smart arse comment, as for stealing artifacts i don't know any SS who steal artifacts but i sure as hell know GoL member(s) who use ML6 Soj spell to get SoM so the group about to do it gets nothing.

Before you critsize other guilds its always nice to make sure your own guild is always fair, even when this person(s) did this it wasn't brought here with "GoL steals yet another artifact".

I don't know about others in SS, but if an artifact is stolen from me which it has been a few times, i contact the guilds GM or Games master then rightnow it if nothing is resolved.

If you're referring to Aussie, he is in FC.

edit: anyway, there have alot of SS whines on this board, which makes people suspicious that it's not only a select few in SS that like to steal arti's.

 

[Heath]

If you're referring to Aussie, he is in FC.

edit: anyway, there have alot of SS whines on this board, which makes people suspicious that it's not only a select few in SS that like to steal arti's.

Okies...as you are such an expert...find the names and post them...if there are that many..it should be easy !!