Sad day

[Mellow-]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2271244.stm

 

[S-Gray]

yeah.. i do recall it been on the News yesterday, its a shame

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

Why haven't they alleged the involvment of internet chatrooms yet? Amateurs ;/

 

[FatBusinessman]

On the bright side, at least her parents know now what's happened to her.

But yes, it's sad

 

[.Cask]

If she had turned up then she probably would have killed her parents for showing all those embarrassing home videos.

But yeah, it is sad and disturbing that things like this happen. Especially as I saw that report right after a story on a couple that had tortured their 2 year old daughter and allowed her to die.

Just hope someone finds out who the person responsible is, and deals out justice using the same morales that they applied to their own victim.

 

[Ono]

 

[Me²]

I'm all for bringing back hanging for people who are responsible for such acts.

 

[*charlton_thd*]

Sad day for her parents


I actually fear for the safety of my 14yo sister when she goes trotting off with her mates.
I actually had a go at her for forgetting her keys today... i never thought i'd be shouting at my sister for her own good.

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

Originally posted by -DingeR-
I'm all for bringing back hanging for people who are responsible for such acts.

Killing murderers is bad, mmkay

PS Killroy audience says HANGING IS TOO GOOD FOR THEM <insert more random vitriol>

 

[nath]

Originally posted by .Cask
But yeah, it is sad and disturbing that things like this happen. Especially as I saw that report right after a story on a couple that had tortured their 2 year old daughter and allowed her to die.

Yes, I read that. Fucking horrible, and yet got hardly any press... perhaps people would rather read about young girls getting kidnapped and deal with the images that conjurs than a two year old girl being forced to stand in scalding hot water.

 

[granny]

Originally posted by -DingeR-
I'm all for bringing back hanging for people who are responsible for such acts.

OK, this kind of event is sickening and tragic and horriffic, yes, but how is bringing back capital punishment ever going to help?

Clearly anyone who commits this kind of crime is seriously mentally disturbed, insane, off their fucking rockers. There's no such thing as a deterrant for completely insane people.

Unthinking, knee-jerk responses never, ever make any situation better.

 

[S-Gray]

Capital Punishment bring in some good Dabates whether its good or bad,

Good
It means we are rid of the Scum who do this sort of thing

Bad
Its an easy way out for them, they should stay inside until they die

 

[wolfeeh]

capital punishment

pro's:
saves the taxpayers a fucking fortune...

cons:
wrongfully convicted?

 

[nath]

Fairly critical con if you ask me. Acceptable loss is bullshit

 

[Pro]v[etheus]

I say bring back the death penalty !

Most of the child sex offenders get released from prison and commit crimes again, they know exactly what they're doing.

Why waste tax payers money on scum ?!

 

[kinetic-uk]

*agrees*


hang the tw@ts

 

[Sawtooth]

No capital punishment is murder on our behalf.
The feeling that makes you feel revolted by what they have done, is also the thing that separates us from them.
The chance that one innocent person is killed by mistake, and looking at policing in this country thats not hard to imagine, is enough to make me think capital punishment is wrong.

I just feel that a life sentence in these cases must mean life.

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

TEHY SHOULD BE SNET INTO SPACE IN A PRISON SHIP!

 

[S-Gray]

Thatd be more like a Holiday tho?

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

How is a prison ship like a holiday?

 

[old.ignus]

I cannot understand the mentality of the people who say killing murderers is wrong and just brings us down to their level. So what? This country is falling apart thanks to do-gooders, the asylum problems, crime, crowded prisons, terrorism. I wish people would take their heads out of the ground and realise that the problem won't go away by itself, action will always be needed. When Hitler invaded Europe how many British citizens said we shouldn't go to war, or starting a war with the nazis was coming down to their levels.
The only downside to the death penalty is wrongful convictions, but in this day and age thats not very often thanks to modern forensics.
These people are scum, they know what they're doing and are beyond rehabilitation, they're a drain on the taxpayer, and most live better lives than us, why do they deserve to live when so many innocents are killed, just look at pictures of Holly and Jessica, Sarah payne, Amanda Dowler before you say they shouldn't be put to death. It just makes me so angry when people do.

 

[Sar]

Capital Punishment, unfortunately, is not a deterrant. It also makes no difference to the amount of prisoners being held in jail at the taxpayer's expense - look at the US's Death Row. There's plenty of ppl in there who've been there for over 5 years, and quite a lot who've been there for 10, 20+ years.

Also, look at the general crime rate - it's fucking sky high there compared to here. So you lot tell me how it's in any way deterring criminals - because after all that is its main purpose.

 

[Sawtooth]

Originally posted by old.ignus
The only downside to the death penalty is wrongful convictions, but in this day and age thats not very often thanks to modern forensics.

Lets hope you never find yourself wrongly convicted. But hey as you drop to your death you'll be thankful that these mistakes aren't made too often.

Don't think I feel pity for murderers, I'm a parent myself and these things make me sick. Too often in the news you hear of errors made either deliberately or not by the police. They are not perfect. Watching the latest murders solved on Discovery may make you think its all water tight but reality is far from that.

 

[nath]

The problem with what ignus is saying is that it's all emotional. You get very angry about what has happened, and you want to satisfy that anger by killing the offender. This, of course, is a stupid way to go. It's total mob mentallity. When thinking about this sort of stuff, you need to detract yourself a bit and think rationally. Something few people can do unfortunately.

I don't know what the best solution is, but as... uh, someone said earlier, kneejerk reactions are not the way to go.

 

[throdgrain]

I think the death penalty may well deter any one from doing a crime again ....
Before you say "oh that cant happen" , it can you know, murder can mean 12 years quite easily. Them people who killed their child got done for manslaughter too. They'l be out after what, four years or so ?
Cant say that im completely convinced 100% one way or the other, though I confess I lean towards capital punishment for such crimes.

 

[charl8tan]

Well tbh, I don't consider it a knee-jerk reaction on my part. I believe that the country and the majority of the world is being run by a bunch of soft ass girlies who are letting everything slide just a wee tad. We need some hard knocks back, killing a murderer/rapist etc for what they have done may be an easy way out for them, if you think of them as not suffering. But consider the fact that the afterlife might not actually exist and could just be a little invention we have come up with because we don't want it to be totally over when we die, and that's what they get, a complete end to their existence, not even the option of contemplating how easy they've got off.
Also I don't believe those people deserve anything less, this does not make me one of them, I'm not disgusted by someone killing another person, I am however disgusted by the way rapists and murderers treat their victims. Are any of you disgusted with people you know you are in the army? Even if they haven't killed anyone yet, when they signed up they accepted that they might have to at some point.
Anyone who speaks to the older generation will now that a lot of the crimes that are happening now, we're a lot less common "back in the day", I think that capital punishment and harsher "normal" punishments would deter a fair amount of criminals. People would be less willing to commit crimes when they knew the consequences were great, and what with modern technology they'd have to be pretty damn good to get away with it.
eek...can't remember where I got to, doh.

 

[Nos-]

Capital punishment is not a deterrant simply because the people who commit these sort of crimes care nothing about the consequences of their actions.

 

[xenon2000]

Originally posted by Sar
So you lot tell me how it's in any way deterring criminals - because after all that is its main purpose.

Well, it would certainly stop them from reoffending, non?

 

[nath]

And what about all those people who would be put to death for something they did not do?

"Oh well"

fuck that.

 

[throdgrain]

Originally posted by xenon2000
Well, it would certainly stop them from reoffending, non?

Thats wot i sed