rvr was just killed by hibernia.

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Friars with a fast staff spamming Power drain is very harsh (Also Hello 24% heat resist buff!)
 

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Derric said:
At the moment we're planning on running:

Cleric
Cleric
Paladin
Mercenary
Mercenary
Cabalist
Sorcerer
Reaver


(olololl m8 and ofc infil and scouts adds!!1!)
yea i ill be there (for add ofc)
:(
 

p0x

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Derric said:
Because everyone doesn't wanna run around with a hard staff and a skirt ;<

Guess thats just me then :/
 

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p0x said:
Why doesn't anyone consider using a battlemaster friar? :| Buhbye pbbox with powerdrain spam ><

friars have resists agains the grapple ? :)
 

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Steveh said:
friar resists:
paladin also can put up this resists with chant.
theurg pet spam:
one qc pbaoe and the pets dead.
icewizis:

tryed a setup with 2 ice wiz.they are both good player full sc and rr6+.our mez landed first.ice wizis shot MoC and start pbaoe.hib casters got the first damage ice wizis still pbaoeing think about 2 pbaoe landed on the hib group.some sec later we all dead and we cant even kill one hib.sombody tell me why we dead? no grapple landed on us ,hibs not shot MoC.
our sorc spamed amnesia ,our minstrel spamed aoe mez.pala and me jumped on the hib pbaoe box and tryed slam everybody when the interupts up and the MoCed pbaoe casters tryed to damage the enemy.

Yes....you need range vs chanters hence why i am trying fire spec.Two bolts+nuke in one go with 50% heat debuff=instant kills a chanter(2k range with toa sc on bolts hmmm) xE

Mids could do the same with RC specced runies, aswell as debuff their own damage.

New frontiers screws pbaoe over bad too ;/
 

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p0x said:
Why doesn't anyone consider using a battlemaster friar? :| Buhbye pbbox with powerdrain spam ><
I would run with friar if i was an alb since they would do more then for example a merc, merc gets permagrappled, he stands there watching until fight is over or he is dead, friar gets permagrappled, his resists are still working and he can heal if not interrupted by casters.
 

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Sycho said:
Yes....you need range vs chanters hence why i am trying fire spec.Two bolts+nuke in one go with 50% heat debuff=instant kills a chanter(2k range with toa sc on bolts hmmm) xE

Mids could do the same with RC specced runies, aswell as debuff their own damage.

New frontiers screws pbaoe over bad too ;/

What about Tri bolt spec (41 Fire 35 Earth). Would it work ?
 

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Garok said:
What about Tri bolt spec (41 Fire 35 Earth). Would it work ?

You want 50 fire if you want to do insane nuke damage aswell as 2 fire bolts.

About 780 a nuke with toa sc.
 

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Sycho said:
You want 50 fire if you want to do insane nuke damage aswell as 2 fire bolts.

About 780 a nuke with toa sc.

Yib, Hibernia the magical realm gets lower value dds than alb/mid :OD
 

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Sycho said:
You want 50 fire if you want to do insane nuke damage aswell as 2 fire bolts.

About 780 a nuke with toa sc.

sorry, but you wont nuke for 780 a nuke with 219 delve nuke very often in fg vs fg enviroment.
 

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Lethul said:
sorry, but you wont nuke for 780 a nuke with 219 delve nuke very often in fg vs fg enviroment.

If they have a debuffsorc, why not? :|

Also: many hibs leave their heat resists very low in SC, cause firewizzies are so rare nowadays, so with some resist piercing he just might :p
 

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constanze said:
well why play in a realm that can not stand in rvr?

bye bye :)

Thats such bollocks. Besides Hibs kept playing while savages quadded every other hit for 900 dmg and shit like that.

The more time you spend on QQ'ing here how overpowered Hibs are the less effort you put into creating a setup which might do fine against them.

TOA introduced new rules to RvR. Tanks where FOTM before TOA and where by far the best. Dark Age of Tankalot etc.

Now for a while this changed and instead of whining it makes more sense to adapt your strategies.

There will always be one realm who has the upper-hand. No point in complaining there and each realm had its turn in that.
 

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Nxs said:
Like Case said earlier.

3fg Albs -Vs- 4 hibs = hibs win

Yeah, ok there was alot of damn good teamwork by the Hibs and they were almost certainly high RR and high ML, but any game that lets 4 players trample over 24 people so easily is just not really on.


4 Hibs killed 24 Albs and you still blame overpoweredness of Hibs?

Seriously isnt it time to do a short check on the 24 Albs and investigate what exactly they did wrong ?

And would it be impossible for 4 Albs to kill 24 Hibs who acted as daft as the 24 Albs in your story .
 

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Lethul said:
sorry, but you wont nuke for 780 a nuke with 219 delve nuke very often in fg vs fg enviroment.

9% spell damage, mastery of magery 3, wild arcana 2/3 though(on body sorc) :)

Maybe not but it will be 700s for sure.
 

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so I'm like the only person who left hibernia cos it was too easy then? :p

Alb 4tehChallenge! :D
 

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Puppet said:
4 Hibs killed 24 Albs and you still blame overpoweredness of Hibs?

Seriously isnt it time to do a short check on the 24 Albs and investigate what exactly they did wrong ?

And would it be impossible for 4 Albs to kill 24 Hibs who acted as daft as the 24 Albs in your story .

There wasn't much we could do. We had the wrong people for the job. Out of those 24 people we had no AE dmg caster, and I think we had a grand total of two sorcs and a necro, unless I missed any. Any attempt to kill would have to be based on melee, welcome to bodyguard grapplespam pbae of +20% doom. MoC ae amnesia spam? Chanter walks around the corner and resumes pbae, that's one MoC wasted and a dead sorc if (s)he follows. Get a sorc there to try to nuke chanter? Hello Mr 5 sec recast insta interrupt. Mez? Hello Purge. Root? You're kidding. Stun? Might've worked if we'd had time to set up a plan to on a given command mincer runs down, stuns chanter while the entire alb force zergs BG'er. We had no time for that, we were still on lord when you got there.

Someone please make bodyguard drop while grappling.
 

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Purge only works once every 30 minutes. And i´m sorry, what is wrong with root? Last time I checked it did interrupt.
 

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Puppet said:
Thats such bollocks. Besides Hibs kept playing while savages quadded every other hit for 900 dmg and shit like that.

The more time you spend on QQ'ing here how overpowered Hibs are the less effort you put into creating a setup which might do fine against them.

TOA introduced new rules to RvR. Tanks where FOTM before TOA and where by far the best. Dark Age of Tankalot etc.

Now for a while this changed and instead of whining it makes more sense to adapt your strategies.

There will always be one realm who has the upper-hand. No point in complaining there and each realm had its turn in that.

before ToA : hib debuff group still owns but not unbeatable with tank group ( NP,Eclipse )
after ToA : hib debuff group owns everybody and unbeatable with tank group

result : need new setup and forget the tank groups.
my opinion on this : fuck off mythic :puke:
 

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Tareregion said:
Purge only works once every 30 minutes. And i´m sorry, what is wrong with root? Last time I checked it did interrupt.

Mez immunity lasts for 1 minute. Our sorcs didn't last that long.
Root interrupts, roots chanter, chanter starts pbaeing and dps debuff for interrupting whatever the sorc tries to do next, the result being the sorc standing there taking damage whilst unable to do anything. Cant fight on stairs without being in pbae range.
 

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All of u have answered Cougar's question incorrectly !

When he asks:

cougar said:

You are meant to Reply :

coz u Rox Cougar. :D moo gawd read between the lines, Roleplydwen.

Hi Remz :D :D
 

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Steveh said:
before ToA : hib debuff group still owns but not unbeatable with tank group ( NP,Eclipse )
after ToA : hib debuff group owns everybody and unbeatable with tank group

result : need new setup and forget the tank groups.
my opinion on this : fuck off mythic :puke:

Before toa : only realm who ran grps based on magic dmg = Hibernia (practically...)
After toa : game forced to run more balanced grps (both casters and tanks(for bg + grapple))

Result : More classes included in rvr (casters in mid + alb a bm(s) in hib)
My opinion on this : maybe that's a good thing...
 

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Where do minstrels fit in in a group setup these days?, or don't they :(. Was thinking either Spirit cabby or Minstrel for NF possibly?, seeing as mythic fucked over my armsman. I'd rather not be a glorified bg bot :<.
 

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Case said:
BG`d chanters > all

Unless a lot of aspects of the game improve very soon with New frontiers or balance patches there`s going to be lots leaving the game

a decent full group hibs with decent ML`s are now virtually unbeatable in 1fg v 1fg and it`ll get worse before it gets better
Bg'd eld> bg'd chanter tbh :p
 

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Edlina said:
Before toa : only realm who ran grps based on magic dmg = Hibernia (practically...)
After toa : game forced to run more balanced grps (both casters and tanks(for bg + grapple))

Result : More classes included in rvr (casters in mid + alb a bm(s) in hib)
My opinion on this : maybe that's a good thing...

It's a good thing tanks are forced to be bg/grapple bots (like you just said)? f8 grapple f8 grapple, sounds great... or not. Also this effectively makes light tanks next to useless since heavy tanks perform that role better (better survivability, can also guard vs archers).
 

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