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Balbor

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Edlina said:
Uh, why is it cheating making a caster attack slower with his staff, so when he uses it to interrupt (which obviously you've never done/heard off - which shows how a poor caster you'd prly be) he can't swing as fast.

Besides, it's dps debuff not asd debuff = damage per second debuff = less dmg per swing not slower attack speed, which there still is a reason for debuffing casters, and if there weren't, it wouldn't be cheating anyway - stop being an idiot. o.0

i think you've missed the point IDIOT, chanters instent Debuff interupts even though its isn't suppose to, and they only resion you would cast it on another caster is to interupt them when you otherwize wouldn't be able to.
Using that spell in RvR and you are basicly cheating, just like when necros were casting through walls.
 

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Puppet said:
Because something isnt fixed (yet) doesnt mean its cheating.....

Its like saying 'hey look that infiltrator is cheating when he uses 9 sec dragonfang because it gets fixed to 5 secs'.

Obviously the dps-debuff interrupting is an oversight and SHOULD be fixed. Yes, I agree on that.

However it aint cheating when you use tools available to you in the current patch; how much that reasoning would fit me alot of times. ASD on healer anyone ? Quad-rate on savage anyone ? Necro's hitting through keepwalls anyone ?

Im sure there are a few more flaws in the game which hopefully get fixed soon. But calling it cheating is silly.

Necros porting into keeps, i remeber that being classed as a cheat before it was fixed.
 

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Balbor said:
i think you've missed the point IDIOT, chanters instent Debuff interupts even though its isn't suppose to, and they only resion you would cast it on another caster is to interupt them when you otherwize wouldn't be able to.
Using that spell in RvR and you are basicly cheating, just like when necros were casting through walls.

Aww that's so sweet.

Chillout and explain to me how it can be cheating to dps debuff another player which then "accidently" has the side effect that it interrupts.
And after that, feel free to give me a link somewhere where Mythic states it's a cheat, or even a bug.

The necros LoS abuse was a bug, not a cheat, if it was cheating to be abusing it, I think you would have seen quite the tons of bans during that time :eek:

There's a difference between a cheat and a bug, and chanter dps debuff interrupting havn't even been classified as a bug (which it obviously is however, seeing as asd was fixed) but it's not cheating to use it, so stop being so silly. And if we call it a cheat or a bug like necros abusing los issues, then that didn't exactly stop them doing it, now did it? So don't expect chanters to stop using dps debuff either.
 

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Edlina said:
Aww that's so sweet.

Chillout and explain to me how it can be cheating to dps debuff another player which then "accidently" has the side effect that it interrupts.
And after that, feel free to give me a link somewhere where Mythic states it's a cheat, or even a bug.

The necros LoS abuse was a bug, not a cheat, if it was cheating to be abusing it, I think you would have seen quite the tons of bans during that time :eek:

There's a difference between a cheat and a bug, and chanter dps debuff interrupting havn't even been classified as a bug (which it obviously is however, seeing as asd was fixed) but it's not cheating to use it, so stop being so silly. And if we call it a cheat or a bug like necros abusing los issues, then that didn't exactly stop them doing it, now did it? So don't expect chanters to stop using dps debuff either.

i'm middie and suffer under dps debuff, but got to agree with edlina, its how it works and nothing 2 do about it. its annoying as hell, but if was hib i sure would use it 2.

just quit the strafe kkthx
 

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DPS debuff is hardly a cheat, since it's "working as intended", nm how dumb it is. However hibs actively gloating or QQing at Albs who find this a dumb spell ought to go back in time and recall ASD ~~ I've no problems with people using DPS debuff; I'd use it myself. It's just the number of hypocrites that's disgusting :p
 

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Path said:
DPS debuff is hardly a cheat, since it's "working as intended", nm how dumb it is. However hibs actively gloating or QQing at Albs who find this a dumb spell ought to go back in time and recall ASD ~~ I've no problems with people using DPS debuff; I'd use it myself. It's just the number of hypocrites that's disgusting :p

I don't see anyone gloating because they dps debuffed someone. Mebe I'm blind, but I just see albs (Septina :p) constantly QQ'ing :p
 

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Edlina said:
explain to me how it can be cheating to dps debuff another player which then "accidently" has the side effect that it interrupts.
Because its not 'accidental' its deliberate, repetative, abuse.
 

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Platina said:
TBH FC come MId/pry xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD :wub:
would be nice and some of us did in an informal fashion. but the thought of going thru ToA again turns my stomach i'm afraid, its a shame :)

gifv '/level ml10' for alts on same account.

noone should be forced to go thru that crap more than once.
 

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Konah said:
would be nice and some of us did in an informal fashion. but the thought of going thru ToA again turns my stomach i'm afraid, its a shame :)

gifv '/level ml10' for alts on same account.

noone should be forced to go thru that crap more than once.
Really i Agree ;> met some of you guys on mid/pry tryed to talk them into to move mid/pry etc. but not that easy whit toa etc noone wanna really move from their main realm since mls . well some do but they are just fotm movers xD and after fronteirs goes live they will be back in there main realm etc. xddddddddddddd flame me now plz (##########)
 

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Konah said:
Because its not 'accidental' its deliberate, repetative, abuse.

Uh, when you put accidental in " those things I dunno what are called in English o.0 that kinda means that yes it's not accidental - obviously, so you don't rly have to write that :|

But it's still not cheating, so don't quote me saying it's not cheating, then saying it's deliberately use of a 5 sec instant that interrupts, because that's not cheating. Infact who knows, mebe it's meant to be like that? Would seem like it since Mythic havn't changed it... xD

zzz, it might be an overlook by Mythic, it might even be considered a bug, tho it hasn't been stated as one, but it's not cheating.
 

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Edlina said:
I don't see anyone gloating because they dps debuffed someone. Mebe I'm blind, but I just see albs (Septina :p) constantly QQ'ing :p

You need to read IRC more :D

Just that the same Hibs who used to complain about ASD on BW now defend the DPS debuff as "working as intended" ;)
 

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Path said:
Just that the same Hibs who used to complain about ASD on BW now defend the DPS debuff as "working as intended" ;)

That's not the same as gloating thos - that'd be like "wtf I totally owned you with dps debuff there, you n00b!", and imo it's more a response to the constant whining from Septina and the likes, saying it's "working as intended" :eek:

But I only read eclipse channel sow o.0
 

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Edlina said:
That's not the same as gloating thos - that'd be like "wtf I totally owned you with dps debuff there, you n00b!", and imo it's more a response to the constant whining from Septina and the likes, saying it's "working as intended" :eek:

And I'm sure you can see the hypocrisy in that :p That said, everyone gets tired of Septina after 10 min or so :D
 

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Konah said:
would be nice and some of us did in an informal fashion. but the thought of going thru ToA again turns my stomach i'm afraid, its a shame :)

gifv '/level ml10' for alts on same account.

noone should be forced to go thru that crap more than once.

Hy der Konz :fluffle:
 

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mm nice they make more classes rvrable :>

way they do it sucks tho.. 2000 hours PvE - doubt u see me in toa gear anytime soon if ever :)

hibs got advantage they already used casters before toa.. when mid/alb get some high rr toa grps game should be even
 

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robbe said:
mm nice they make more classes rvrable :>

way they do it sucks tho.. 2000 hours PvE - doubt u see me in toa gear anytime soon if ever :)

hibs got advantage they already used casters before toa.. when mid/alb get some high rr toa grps game should be even
who needs high rr ;p

did perfectly fine day in emain vs randoms and high rr mid and hib groups with 2 spirit cabbies, merc, pally, minstrel, mind sorc, 2 clerics ;p

cabbies were rr5 and rr2 \o/
 

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3xFZ (best way to counter bg), 2bgs, pbaoe disease, instant mezz+stun, only realm there benefit from buff shearing, 3xamnesia (impossible to interrupt all 3 healer with dps debuff)... wtf u want more?

and if the sorc get interrupted by dps debuff he playes bad, as range on dps debuff is 1500 and his mezz is 1850 and his amnesia is 2300 range and alb also got the best 2 interruptser in game, reavers and theur.


and with 1.69 are chain grappling pointless and with NF gp is remove and baod is handed out to all realm.
 

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Dawn said:
and so prydwen met nolby pride


U see they come here from time to time, always ending up with same conclusion, there are way more n00bs to farm on Excal, it's a matter of numbers ^^
 

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