Rant Rising prices

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Road Tax, Rail Fares, insurance, utilities etc. Why can't these people see what's going to happen? Road tax and Insurance are eventually goign to price people off the roads. Likewise rail fares are going to become so expensive that people won't be able to afford to take the train. What will happen? People will have to quit work because thay can't afford to get there so all these rail companies will go out of business and there will be so many people on unemployment benefit that the Government will really go bankrupt. It's the same with gas and electricity prices, a lot of people are already unable to afford those bills, especially the elderly. It's bloody ridiculous.

Another hike in rail fares announced because

Michael Roberts, chief executive of ATOC, insisted: "Money raised through fares helps to pay for better services."

What a load of bollocks, where are the better services paid for by the increases we've already had?

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erm, no, people aren't going to quit work because they can't afford to get there. They will however have to cut back on other spending, which will impact the economy.
 

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Working from home is the future anyway.
 

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Rail fares have always be extortionate, and thus I never used them in the UK. It was cheaper, comfier, quite often faster and more reliable to drive.
 

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Things are pretty messed up, and very scary.

When you see folks of the older generations shaking their heads and exclaiming shock at how people can even afford to live its pretty depressing.
 

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Factor in the impact increased fuel duty has on food prices.
It might just be because it's Christmas season, but I noticed a lot of prices hiked in my local Tesco in the last week or two. Not just a little bit, we're talking like 10-20% increases. I also notice that my shopping basket goes up in cost a little bit each time. This time last year a trolley of shopping would be in the region of £85. The same trolley this week was £115. That sort of increase is unsustainable in the long term because wages aren't rising in line with inflation.
 

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It should be far more expensive to own an keep a car.. there are far too many people driving.... a lot of the people who own a car have one to have one... it's a social pressure thing really for a lot of people..

And to be honest, I have noticed they have spent quite a bit of cash on the new high speed raill network in Kent etc and improving the trains... and they are trying to spread the high speed trains :)
 

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It should be far more expensive to own an keep a car.. there are far too many people driving.... a lot of the people who own a car have one to have one... it's a social pressure thing really for a lot of people..

And to be honest, I have noticed they have spent quite a bit of cash on the new high speed raill network in Kent etc and improving the trains... and they are trying to spread the high speed trains :)

From somebody who doesn't drive, it's pretty dumb.

But, it should be cheaper to use public transport, than use the car.

I can go into town and park for 1-2 hours for the same price as a bus, including petrol, that's wrong IMO.
 

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Not if you commute into London from the Suburbs.

Well i've only been London once, and I took the train from Preston to Euston (this was several years ago and it cost about 150£ return). Considering I booked well in advance I was pretty miffed at the prices as it would have cost about £50 petrol (at the time it was 85p a litre). The only positive thing was the time (took 2hours, whereas a car would take 5-6).
 

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Well i've only been London once, and I took the train from Preston to Euston (this was several years ago and it cost about 150£ return). Considering I booked well in advance I was pretty miffed at the prices as it would have cost about £50 petrol (at the time it was 85p a litre). The only positive thing was the time (took 2hours, whereas a car would take 5-6).
I love the fact your alias is 'English' yet, you slag everything off that is English, and don't actually live in England (Or the UK) haha, not having a go, it's just funny :p
 

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I love the fact your alias is 'English' yet, you slag everything off that is English, and don't actually live in England (Or the UK) haha, not having a go, it's just funny :p

I don't slag everything off ;p but I made the alias years and years ago, i don't use it anywhere else other than FH as i cba to make a new account ;p
 

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Some people need car's, wake up not everyone lives in or around public transport.

So your saying because some idiot who lives by a bus-stop owns a Ford Fiesta with tinted windows and a huge exhaust you feel that "Ya know this whole car thing whats the point" :rolleyes:
 

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It should be far more expensive to own an keep a car.. there are far too many people driving.... a lot of the people who own a car have one to have one... it's a social pressure thing really for a lot of people..

And to be honest, I have noticed they have spent quite a bit of cash on the new high speed raill network in Kent etc and improving the trains... and they are trying to spread the high speed trains :)

What a load of old bollocks. Eco-nazi alert :/
 

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What a load of old bollocks. Eco-nazi alert :/
Nah honestly I don't really care about all that rubbish.... but imo you are seen as a massive idiot if you don't have a car.. pretty much everyone has at least one car and it's just ridiculous trying to cross the road sometimes, 1 in 40 people seem to stop ..

And yeah I know quite a few people need a car for work or just in case their terminally ill relative has to be rushed to the hospital.. but honestly... I know a lot of people who have a car just to have a car.. in fact they barely use their car.. maybe a few times a week.. it's quite a bit cheaper for them to just get the bus / train..

And really? pretty much the entire country is covered with public transport, don't give that silly excuse.. everyone is at least 10-30 minutes max walk from a train station / bus station etc..
 

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Nah honestly I don't really care about all that rubbish.... but imo you are seen as a massive idiot if you don't have a car.. pretty much everyone has at least one car and it's just ridiculous trying to cross the road sometimes, 1 in 40 people seem to stop ..

And yeah I know quite a few people need a car for work or just in case their terminally ill relative has to be rushed to the hospital.. but honestly... I know a lot of people who have a car just to have a car.. in fact they barely use their car.. maybe a few times a week.. it's quite a bit cheaper for them to just get the bus / train..

And really? pretty much the entire country is covered with public transport, don't give that silly excuse.. everyone is at least 10-30 minutes max walk from a train station / bus station etc..

Not being a smartarse but have you actually ran a car in modern times, it's hardly cheap.

Because i find that cars inconviencing you from crossing the road is a pretty weak arguement
 

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Costs me £2.50 to get into town on the bus, and £2.50 back, that's £5 there and back, I don't live miles away, probably like 2 miles from the City Centre (rough guess), Cost me £9 to get a taxi from Town to my house at 2AM, with a drop off on the way, Basically, It'll be cheaper if 4 of us went into town (at any time) to get a taxi - now, what the hell is that all about?
 

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Nah honestly I don't really care about all that rubbish.... but imo you are seen as a massive idiot if you don't have a car.. pretty much everyone has at least one car and it's just ridiculous trying to cross the road sometimes, 1 in 40 people seem to stop ..

And yeah I know quite a few people need a car for work or just in case their terminally ill relative has to be rushed to the hospital.. but honestly... I know a lot of people who have a car just to have a car.. in fact they barely use their car.. maybe a few times a week.. it's quite a bit cheaper for them to just get the bus / train..

And really? pretty much the entire country is covered with public transport, don't give that silly excuse.. everyone is at least 10-30 minutes max walk from a train station / bus station etc..

You don't actually live in the real world do you....? There are two buses a day to our village which take an hour and a half. The nearest other bus stop is 30 minutes walk away for an hour long journey into town. I need to drive to leave the village basically.
 

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And really? pretty much the entire country is covered with public transport, don't give that silly excuse.. everyone is at least 10-30 minutes max walk from a train station / bus station etc..

I could get a bus to work. It would pick me up at 9.30 just a short 10 minute walk from my house, so a bit late, but not disastrously so. It would get me to work at about 10.15. The same bus then travels for another 45 minutes before heading back through my home village on the way back to the depot. There is no other bus visiting the village where I work. So I need to get the same physical bus, on the same run home as takes me to work. I could work for 24 hour stretches I suppose, so get the 45 minute, late bus in one day, and then back on it the next day for a 90 minute journey home. Or I could drive the 20minutes each way it takes me in my car.

There are thousands upon thousands of people living and working in rural areas in similar situations to me, with no alternative to using our own vehicle.

You're a plank if you think that everyone has an alternative.
 

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Costs me £2.50 to get into town on the bus, and £2.50 back, that's £5 there and back, I don't live miles away, probably like 2 miles from the City Centre (rough guess), Cost me £9 to get a taxi from Town to my house at 2AM, with a drop off on the way, Basically, It'll be cheaper if 4 of us went into town (at any time) to get a taxi - now, what the hell is that all about?

Both are services the taxi driver and bus companies employee's do tend to like being able to eat and that sort of thing
 

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We are better off than we ever were...priced off the roads LOL, if only, my grandparents could only dream of a car, even I learnt to drive when there were half the cars on the road.
Someone on the dole today is like a millionaire from 80 years ago.
 

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Walking 30mins - 1hr minutes a day is hardly a bad thing, if anything it will keep you fit :p but yeah taking a car is the easier option.. but it's not always the cheapest or the most expensive option... really depends where you are..

But you are a tit if you think everyone who has a car 100% needs that car.
 

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It's not about having an alternative, it's about my right to have a bloody car if I want one. Why should it incur ever larger taxes. You lot want your bumps felt :eek: Whether someone needs a car or not, is none of your bloody business.
 

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Walking 30mins - 1hr minutes a day is hardly a bad thing, if anything it will keep you fit :p but yeah taking a car is the easier option.. but it's not always the cheapest or the most expensive option... really depends where you are..

But you are a tit if you think everyone who has a car 100% needs that car.

You only don't really need a car if you live/work in London.

Most of my friends live 8 miles away from me, bus routes would take me 3 hours to do a 20 minute trip... no trains go that way etc.

Most people need a car, even to do short trips. Fuck lugging stuff you bought at b&q for example on the bus or train.
 

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London is a different example compared to the rest of the country. The public transport is frequent enough and cheap enough to make it worthwhile.

I live in an area that is partly rural, partly urban. The bus service is so infrequent that the only people who can rely on the schedules are people who work at the hospital, or those who live within a couple of miles of their work.

In my particular example, public transport is no chance for my work. I drive 45,000 business miles a year, and maybe 3000 miles of my own private mileage. It's why I'm okay with paying the cost of a company car. It costs me each month, but I've got a car for my own use if necessary.
 

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