Respect "Charter"

[Muylaetrix]

More than half of the players i know have no clue what FH is.

As a result, this is pointless.

more and more i am getting to the point i just think :

`this is a free for all game. Who are you and where do you even get the audacity to ASK (ask, haha) me to change my behaviour if all my actions are OK with the rules, CoC, and only violate YOUR SELF-SET standards ?`

 

[Zede]

Dont worry about them Malc
Most of our allience hate AoD
It started with the insults but reached a peak when they dropped Crim to lvl1 but wouldn't release it so another guild could hold it.
I should stop logging into /as with " Hi Guys - don't forget to add on AoD today "
Sorry to all the decent hib or mid groups who want a fg vs fg fight but it's only AoD

My apologies Malc, I got a different impression of your play style from your posts, I was wrong and I acknowledge that fact !

As for Baron......you have made it clear you dont mind adding on anyone, anywhere at any time. Back tracking and trying to make out its just AoD wont change that. The Iron Wind thanks to your efforts have the reputation of being No1 Fg vs Fg adding group from Albion. Congratulations.

AoD have had some disputes with the likes of Severance. After alot of recent posts, ( "Insults") its pretty clear we are actually both want the same thing. People like you put this all into perspective.

Swollow your pride and just try going to Agramon for 1 week and respecting all the other FGs there - just 1 week - do it, it may actually be fun.

 

[Malcolm]

More than half of the players i know have no clue what FH is.

And a heck of a lot of players who do know what it is avoid it like the plague

 

[Jjuraa]

Who are you and where do you even get the audacity to ASK (ask, haha) me to change my behaviour if all my actions are OK with the rules, CoC, and only violate YOUR SELF-SET standards ?

My god, i hesitate to write this as i doubt you'll be able to read it all the way up their on your pedestal. How about hopping down and joining us mere mortals for a light discussion? You condescending son of a bitch...

 

[Zede]

My god, i hesitate to write this as i doubt you'll be able to read it all the way up their on your pedestal. How about hopping down and joining us mere mortals for a light discussion? You condescending son of a bitch...

Careful m8, haggus and my fellow l33t fg cronies need all the help we can, dont go get banned !!

 

[Malcolm]

You condescending son of a bitch...

Personal insults rarely win arguments.

 

[Jjuraa]

Personal insults rarely win arguments.

Lucky i dont rely purely on insults then isnt it. My actuall points can win the argument, and the insults can be thrown in because i dont like him.

 

[Malcolm]

Lucky i dont rely purely on insults then isnt it. My actuall points can win the argument, and the insults can be thrown in because i dont like him.

That post was devoid of points but not of proof of your immaturity.

 

[Cylian]

...My actuall points can win the argument, ...

you wouldn't recognize having a point even if you had one!

 

[Bracken]

`this is a free for all game. Who are you and where do you even get the audacity to ASK (ask, haha) me to change my behaviour if all my actions are OK with the rules, CoC, and only violate YOUR SELF-SET standards ?`

Muyl it was just an attempt to try and improve how we all get along. I come in from a day at work and the last thing I want is to get tantrum pms from someone when I've done nothing other than play the game in the way it was orginally designed. Particularly when they are safely sat behind their pcs and I can't respond in the way I would if someone did that in the street. By trying to get some common understandings I naively thought we could get along better - which would make everyone's gaming experience better. The responses so far seem to be a mixture of "I'm alright jack" and "I'll do what I want". Which is fine - as you said who am I to suggest anything different. If someone acts like a **** to me then I'm well able to be one back - but atleast I've made an attempt to make things different.

 

[Jjuraa]

That post was devoid of points but not of proof of your immaturity.

Because im not having the discussion yet? Im waiting for him to come join in again. If you want to start a seperate thread about my immaturity, be my guest, off-topic is the place for that i think.

 

[scarloc]

Dont worry about them Malc
Most of our allience hate AoD
It started with the insults but reached a peak when they dropped Crim to lvl1 but wouldn't release it so another guild could hold it.
I should stop logging into /as with " Hi Guys - don't forget to add on AoD today "
Sorry to all the decent hib or mid groups who want a fg vs fg fight but it's only AoD

Even if you ran 1fg and didn't add, you wouldn't give any mid or hib groups a decent fight.

EDIT: Also, we'll keep playing the way we want. Just like you do.

 

[Muylaetrix]

How about hopping down and joining us mere mortals for a light discussion?

about what ? the fact that i am getting more and more tired about people asking me NOT to participate in RVR actions cause it spoils THEIR SOLO/FG egotripping, which is imho against the spirit of the game ! You don`t have a single valid argument to ask me to stop killing ANY enemy on sight. Technically the only thing you can gain by asking people to stop is :
- suspension of you account, depending upon the way you ask...
- destruction of the realm team spirit
- loss of respect of other players.

NOONE ever got banned for adding... loads of people got banned over profanity.

common, where do people get the idea to ask other people to stop their actions if their actions are 100% ok with the rules, the spirit of the game and the CoC ?

 

[Flimgoblin]

This said, this "Respect Charter" is against FH CoC.

is it now?

do elaborate

 

[Jjuraa]

about what ? the fact that i am getting more and more tired about people asking me NOT to participate in RVR actions cause it spoils THEIR SOLO/FG egotripping

So let me get this straight, youre tired of having your RvR ruined by people asking you not to ruin their RvR? Hmm, yeah i can see how managing to convince yourself youre not being a hypocritical **** must drain you

 

[Flimgoblin]

Personally after reading some of the responses in this thread I'm just going to play how I feel like playing. I don't go agramon much so you won't get added on much by me there, if I even feel like adding that day.

If someone /sends me anything particularly abusive for playing the game I'll screenshot them and rightnow them. Simple

 

[Malcolm]

is it now?

do elaborate

It's obvious Fing, FH is for flaming, whining and personal insults - R**pect's a dirty word here.

 

[Muylaetrix]

So let me get this straight, youre tired of having your RvR ruined by people asking you not to ruin their RvR? Hmm, yeah i can see how managing to convince yourself youre not being a hypocritical **** must drain you

Where do i say i have rvr ruined for me ?

Adding is a game mechanic. Adding is part of this game more than in ANY other game. This is the game of zerging and adding in case you don`t know. stop whining about it, or go play a game where IT IS NOT A GAME MECHANIC.

and stop the profanity, it doesn`t help your case, contrary.

 

[Jjuraa]

Where do i say i have rvr ruined for me ?

Adding is a game mechanic. Adding is part of this game more than in ANY other game. This is the game of zerging and adding in case you don`t know. stop whining about it, or go play a game where IT IS NOT A GAME MECHANIC.

Adding is not a game mechanic? Do you even KNOW what a game mechanic is? Nowhere does it say "you must add or the game will not work" ? there is no reason other than "i want realmpoints" why you would see a FG vs FG fight and feel you have to jump in and add on it.

 

[MaCaBr3]

So let me get this straight, youre tired of having your RvR ruined by people asking you not to ruin their RvR? Hmm, yeah i can see how managing to convince yourself youre not being a hypocritical **** must drain you

No, he's fed with people telling him what to do when the only thing he want to do is whatever he feels like.

I couldn't agree more with Muylaetrix, I share his opinion because i'm also fed up with all these rules of respect and unwritten lines of conduct, cuz at the end people aren't allowed to do anything at all in the game.

This is how i play: i play for my account, the coc tells me not to cheat and not to abuse shit etc, so I won't. Other then that, I will kill someone at first sight if I feel like it. I will add or kill someone at 40%, whenever I feel like it.

That doesn't mean I do all the time, but it happens. Most of the time I will let someone have his battle, but other days I might kill of the enemy who won the battle etc etc.

If that makes me an asshole, so be it. But nothing is gonna chance the fact that I will play the game whoever I feel like it, without braeking the coc.

 

[Gahn]

Some fixed group BG night running around is in order to put some salt in some heads imo -.-

 

[Muylaetrix]

Adding is not a game mechanic? Do you even KNOW what a game mechanic is? Nowhere does it say "you must add or the game will not work" ? there is no reason other than "i want realmpoints" why you would see a FG vs FG fight and feel you have to jump in and add on it.

watching allies (realmmates) die when you could intervene, is against the spirit of the game imho.

Knights and noble gentry watching by the side as innocent realmmates get ambushed and stuff ... feels wrong tbh.

this is not about the RP, haha, I am the one willing TO SHARE THE RP, not you i get the idea.

 

[Jjuraa]

This is how i play: i play for my account, the coc tells me not to cheat and not to abuse shit etc, so I won't. Other then that, I will kill someone at first sight if I feel like it. I will add or kill someone at 40%, whenever I feel like it.

And thats completely fine with the CoC, so you wont get banned for it. But you ARE a dick for doing it. Two people having a 1v1 and dont want you to add, yet you jump in and ruin it for them. Not illegal, nobody is saying its illegal, we're saying it makes you a twat. Whats your argument against that? and dont insult us by saying "The CoC says its ok".

 

[Jjuraa]

watching allies (realmmates) die when you could intervene, is against the spirit of the game imho.

Knights and noble gentry watching by the side as innocent realmmates get ambushed and stuff ... feels wrong tbh.

this is not about the RP, haha, I am the one willing TO SHARE THE RP, not you i get the idea.

If i was an alb, and my full group was fighting a hib full group, and you came along to add, and our entire full group doesnt want you to add and is screaming "DONT ADD", yet you add anyway, how can you possibly say its against the spirit of the game to NOT add? all youre saying their is that we should let you do whatever the hell we want. in which case you should show us the same courtesy and do whatever the hell we want, which is get the fuck out of our full group fights?

This is where your argument breaks down, youre basically accusing us of trying to make you do what we want, then saying "instead, you should all do what i want"

 

[MaCaBr3]

And thats completely fine with the CoC, so you wont get banned for it. But you ARE a dick for doing it. Two people having a 1v1 and dont want you to add, yet you jump in and ruin it for them. Not illegal, nobody is saying its illegal, we're saying it makes you a twat. Whats your argument against that? and dont insult us by saying "The CoC says its ok".

I emphasis "whenver I feel like it" and "that doesn't mean I do at all the time".

The fact of the matter is this: someone who NEVER added and NEVER jumped on fight, but did it either by accident or only one time in his history of playing, will also be marked as a twat.

And that's the hyprocisy about it and don't deny it.

And like I said, if you think i'm a twat because, I might feel like killing someone in a battle, go ahead, that's just your problem. It's not that i'm beeing abusive about it. I

 

[Cromcruaich]

Personally after reading some of the responses in this thread I'm just going to play how I feel like playing. I don't go agramon much so you won't get added on much by me there, if I even feel like adding that day.

If someone /sends me anything particularly abusive for playing the game I'll screenshot them and rightnow them. Simple

Aye, i'm sure this is the opinion help by many, including myself when i'm not running with my fg. It's what makes the initial post by Bracken a bit redundant, comes over as a misguided crusade along side a bit of ego massaging, but i'm perhaps being a little unfair on the guy.

 

[Jjuraa]

I emphasis "whenver I feel like it" and "that doesn't mean I do at all the time".

The fact of the matter is this: someone who NEVER added and NEVER jumped on fight, but did it either by accident or only one time in his history of playing, will also be marked as a twat.

And that's the hyprocisy about it and don't deny it.

And like I said, if you think i'm a twat because, I might feel like killing someone in a battle, go ahead, that's just your problem. It's not that i'm beeing abusive about it. I

Now youre just trying to wave a magic wand and say "im not a twat, because its me doing it"

Youre also completely wrong, ive forgiven plenty of people who have added on me accidently, becuase they came and apologised to me in PM, or messaged me on IRC.

 

[Gahn]

watching allies (realmmates) die when you could intervene, is against the spirit of the game imho.

Knights and noble gentry watching by the side as innocent realmmates get ambushed and stuff ... feels wrong tbh.

this is not about the RP, haha, I am the one willing TO SHARE THE RP, not you i get the idea.

Orly?

 

[Bracken]

But you ARE a dick for doing it.

Why? Given how the game was designed, marketed and sold (i.e. realm v realm) there is absolutely nothing wrong with him attacking anything with a red name anywhere. You have decided you want private fights and that is your choice, but the rest of the population are under no obligation to go along with that. You really need to grasp that. Having said that, in the interests of people getting along better, the attempt was to try and come to some common understandings that gives you and your friends an area to fight in, while making sure you recognise that people are perfectly entitled to play the game as it was sold. Sad thing is there really doesn't seem to be much willingness on either side of the fence to stand in the other person's shoes.

 

[MaCaBr3]

Now youre just trying to wave a magic wand and say "im not a twat, because its me doing it"

Youre also completely wrong, ive forgiven plenty of people who have added on me accidently, becuase they came and apologised to me in PM, or messaged me on IRC.

WHENVER THE FUCK DID I SAY THAT. Jezus, nevermind, no point debating with someone who is so stuburn that he will turn arround arguments into complete bs.

You didn't understand anything about what I said.

Also you saying: "don't insult US because the COC says it's ok" phrase just makes me laugh.