Relics and realm population

[Trubble]

Hibernia is the realm gaining most by having power relics.

Midgard is the realm gaining most by having strength relics.

Albion cannot defend power relic.

So situation is Albion and Midgard fighting over str relics. But Midgards determination in having these relics (alarmclock raids) is discouraging Albion from even trying to take them back.

So unless Albion gets its motivation up, nothing is going to happen, and by judging the Albions posting this doesnt look like its happening. Also it sure looks like Midgard and Hibernia are both happy with the situation as it is right now.

If Albion manage to take some relics, its likely that the current owner will do everything they can to get them back. It is not likely that midgard will go for power relics, should albion take their strength relics...

So there you have it, Albion vs the rest.

 

[acei]

Mr Hairball himself has promised a relic raid on the mids soon, and im pretty sure he will get them since mids have had them for so long that they dont appreciate them anymore, hence won't defend very vigourously. Then there are some mids who enjoy the taking of the relics more than actually having them, like me for instance

One question to you ardemal and to rest of mids tbh... if Hibernia does a primetime relic raid against Midgard and succeeds (which they will do sooner or later) will you just alarm clock them back or do it at primetime? Probably a stupid question considering what Midgard did to us.

 

[PJS]

numerical superiority > relic bonus

 

[behatch]

So there you have it, Albion vs the rest.

not like they dont have the numbers :wub:

 

[behatch]

One question to you ardemal and to rest of mids tbh... if Hibernia does a primetime relic raid against Midgard and succeeds (which they will do sooner or later) will you just alarm clock them back or do it at primetime? Probably a stupid question considering what Midgard did to us.

Hmm...yes why not :kissit:

 

[noaim]

Just thinking, if say albs managed to take their powerrelic back, and hibs did an animistraid on Myrrdin with say...150 people. Would albs even have a chance to make it there in time if they responded about as fast as possible?

 

[Dorin]

albs use SoS and 600 ppl to take relics
hibs use animists
mids use teh clock

 

[Ghostfeet]

[excal-deleted, BoB rulz but zergland is no good]

miért ?

 

[behatch]

albs use SoS and 600 ppl to take relics
hibs use animists
mids use teh clock

seems fair dont it

 

[nol]

albs use SoS and 600 ppl to take relics
hibs use animists
mids use teh clock

I took the last relic for Hib, and all I can say is Thank god for those 3 animists, we would never, ever have done it without them.

 

[Icebreaker]

seems fair dont it

not yet.

So far we haven't taken any Relics with Animist Power.

It's more like this atm:

Albs have taken Relics with 300 ppl

Mids have taken Relics at 5am

Hibs have taken Relics Primetime with tactics

 

[Calo]

Need a break from work so lets see how many reasoned arguements this brings

Based on population per realm, on Excal Alb have 42% of the active players

Alb have 0 relics.

We are not alone in this...

On every server Alb has the highest population, Mid the second highest and Hib last (except on 1 server where Hibs outnumber Mids)

If you look at the relics across all 11 servers the mids win

Mid 28
Hib 20
Alb 18

Now, I've been trying to work out why this is.....

1) Is it an indication of the attitudes of the people who choose to play the different realms?
i.e. Most peps in alb are PVE Carebears, most people who are serious about RVR play Mid. They are prepared to get up early and do alarm clock raids etc, etc.
2) Is it that Alb don't need the relics as they do enough damage without them?
3) Is it more to do with the classes within the realms?
i.e. Mid classes have more utility and damage which enables them to penetrate the defenses of the relic keeps and kill any defenders then kill all defenders at mile gate while on the way back.
4) Is it Mythic and GOA don't like Alb?
i.e. Ensure the only relic keep with no hill to approach it is in Alb. Ensure you get a decent server to run the most underused frontier while having crappy servers running the relic keeps on Mid/Hib.


Well, over to you...but if you're not laughing at 1 & 2 and nodding as you read 3 & 4 you play a different game than I do

Let the fun begin

when i started to read this i thought, this is from an alb ...

and it is... u just turned the whole post to look that albion is the "low" realm... its just a subjective thread, not objective so --> crap

 

[Clipse]

Albion is the primary role playing realm, FOR KING ARTHUR etc..

Just because they have the most 'active' population doesnt mean they have the most 'dedicated' RVR's.
Hib and Mid both have alot of RVR only guilds, Alb has about 3 (FC,AD,BF)
= More people actually wanting the Relics.

Although it does seem Alb's can muster up the biggest zergs on the server by far, odd that..

u r a gimp. The day Albion gets the Str/power relics, is the day we see the "most 'dedicated' RVR's" realms leave emain. Remeber when we had the Str Relics guys, the war perma hibb vs Albs.

Goodbye in advance.

btw, I can guarantee Hibb/midd dont have the Relics coz u r the rofl most dedicated RvRers lol.

 

[behatch]

not yet.

So far we haven't taken any Relics with Animist Power.

It's more like this atm:

Albs have taken Relics with 300 ppl

Mids have taken Relics at 5am

Hibs have taken Relics Primetime with tactics

You should be proud off yourself then..

 

[acei]

I took the last relic for Hib, and all I can say is Thank god for those 3 animists, we would never, ever have done it without them.

Think he's predicting the future

 

[Clipse]

when i started to read this i thought, this is from an alb ...

and it is... u just turned the whole post to look that albion is the "low" realm... its just a subjective thread, not objective so --> crap

so why don't u bring some objectivity to it.... the only subjectivity i see is your post.

 

[nol]

Think he's predicting the future

um, yeah, if he was talking about the past he would have had to mention necro's I guess.

 

[Calo]

One question to you ardemal and to rest of mids tbh... if Hibernia does a primetime relic raid against Midgard and succeeds (which they will do sooner or later) will you just alarm clock them back or do it at primetime? Probably a stupid question considering what Midgard did to us.

if hibs are smart they wont take 6 relics

cause then they will loose them fast

 

[behatch]

so why don't u bring some objectivity to it.... the only subjectivity i see is your post.

heres comes one off those im smarter than you arguments

 

[Calo]

so why don't u bring some objectivity to it.... the only subjectivity i see is your post.

u clearly dont understand the words

 

[acei]

if hibs are smart they wont take 6 relics

cause then they will loose them fast

The ML's are starting to have impact for keep defense/offense... just a fg of animists could stop a zerg from taking a relic keep, so 6 relics for Hibernia could be easily done.

 

[Clipse]

u clearly dont understand the words

lol

 

[nol]

The ML's are starting to have impact for keep defense/offense... just a fg of animists could stop a zerg from taking a relic keep, so 6 relics for Hibernia could be easily done.

How do the fg of animists get into the keep? I reckon they should take turn to wait at the keeps all the time, considering there will be no relic guards

 

[acei]

How do the fg of animists get into the keep? I reckon they should take turn to wait at the keeps all the time, considering there will be no relic guards

PBAOE4tehwin! 1fg of a bombsquad while the animists sneak in.... Hibs VERY well known for this tactic and if Domain/Garbonnach is in the bombsquad that does it then the mid casualties will be much higher than hib casualties.

 

[Belomar]

I'm not even going to touch this thread, it's bound to become a flamefest... Oops! :touch:

 

[behatch]

yes,first post suggest flamefest

join in

 

[Kagato]

In a game where combat is mostly centered around crowd control, having a larger population is not the big advantage you would normally think it to be, add this to the long standing class imbalances (i.e albs core abilities being spread over a larger number of classes and mids over powered classes) and the results are not really that suprising.

Essentially, larger numbers mean nothing. Take away all forms of crowd control and sure, population would make a huge differance, but as it stands it doesn't really mean anything.

And even if you could win through population alone, we'd only end up crashing GOA's servers again

 

[bahamot]

Because NO are a PvE RP guild... je.

je havoc is roleplaying guild

 

[noaim]

PBAOE4tehwin! 1fg of a bombsquad while the animists sneak in.... Hibs VERY well known for this tactic and if Domain/Garbonnach is in the bombsquad that does it then the mid casualties will be much higher than hib casualties.

So then we got 2fg. And if those that provides FoP dies, those animists in the keep are worth shit (not that I think they will make it inside with no speed). And so on, so we end up with Hib not being able to defend 6 relics. They may however be the realm with the best chance, but since the chance is small, and only better than the other 2 realms (with exception of albs cause of Myrridin location) with a small margin, its not worth anything.

Add speedwarps around keep and at boarderkeeps, and the fact that you usually dont even know what relickeep is under attack, and even you will soon understand that its an impossible task to defend 6 relics in the long run.

 

[Xanthian]

Because NO are a PvE RP guild... je.

NO?
Who..

Oh the guys that run in Odins.. heh