Relic raid blabbers, begone :'(

[Groborthir]

I don't know what to say, really ... Even before a single of us had stepped out of MPK in Hadrian's, this was said on #daoc.prydwen:

http://groborthir.lir.dk/cheater.jpg

The worst thing is that I can't report him thanks to dynamic IP and the anonymity of IRC.

It really gets me going that one tosser is able to ruin everything for so many others. I'm not saying we would have got the relics, afterall we did get killed by guards when we hit the second door, but I'm fairly sure that people like Dotbot, who were already at Excalibur when we attacked, didn't make it all too much easier to get inside.

It's sad that things like this and other types of cheating are being used in a game like this.

/me cwys irl :[

 

[Elendar]

i am very sad now

 

[Cami]

yep , this guy is guessing an awfull lot :kissit: :kissit: :kissit:

 

[Yes_me]

Mythic should remove relics from the game entirely, since cheating is paying off. I dont think anyone would mind, only morons/idiots like that.

 

[Vonwar]

a Very good screenshot Groborthir. Hope you post in on the Alb thread aswell as in daoc-europe so that they can realise what we are up against.

it has come to this now:

If you want to beat the Albs, get an account there and monitor things, like they do.

If you want to beat the Hibs, get a radar programme so you can see them too.

VERY SAD SITUATION !!! uke:

Vonwar
GM - DH/Pryd.

 

[Derric]

Don't generalise about this,I doubt there are many albs that condone this kind of behaviour.

<hugs Grobo>


Ps. Cami's german Ds.

 

[Herbal]

5 am rr now thats skillz

 

[Swebully]

5 am rr now thats skillz

and having people xrealming is fair play?...doesnt matter if we do Prime time rr
or alarm clock raid..somehow it feels like we get spotted too early..too often

 

[NeonBlue]

a Very good screenshot Groborthir. Hope you post in on the Alb thread aswell as in daoc-europe so that they can realise what we are up against.

it has come to this now:

If you want to beat the Albs, get an account there and monitor things, like they do.

If you want to beat the Hibs, get a radar programme so you can see them too.

VERY SAD SITUATION !!! uke:

Vonwar
GM - DH/Pryd.

and of course Mids never cheat do they ?!?!

"If you want to beat the Albs, get an account there and monitor things, like they do"

already been done by mids....i remember when i was lvl 24 killing with my sorc & infil in Thid, getting msgs from lvl1 chars slating me for killing them..turns out i had just killed their mid char in Thid 5mins before.

"If you want to beat the Hibs, get a radar programme so you can see them too."

Again already used by mids !

always the same every realm whinges about the other realms and never sees the bigger picture or believes their realm classes are over powered or believes their realm mates cheat etc etc....

perhaps ppl should put more effort into getting the game balanced for ALL realms with balanced classes / RA's and make it fun once more !!

and before you flame me...i hate irc blabbers as much as the next man!
just sick of hearing Albs do this...Hibs do that...and Mids do the other...every realm has its script / macro / cheat / lag / strafe / radar abuse kiddies...and its these ppl we should get rid of...the game would be a better place for it !

 

[bashir]

5 am rr now thats skillz

we didnt leave at 5 am

 

[InertiaSlave]

Hi BO! Thank you for letting Murasaki see you taking outer door of Bold down, then leave with no guards killed. Well done pwning our 1.8 random groups with lag warping (wd Remeem!) and keep guard help several times.

/sarcasm off

Tbh my group (mixed UP and Rose mostly) were in Odin's.. So empty.. Went Emain.. Had a bit of fun, shame we had to go mpk to get it.. Then comes Murasaki's report on /as. My group put 2 and 2 together, I made a fuss and PMed Laird (who took charge, thank you! /salute) and a few select others, and Conoor started a cg. This was at what, 2:30? 3:00? We had defense cg up already by then. And now you whine about some guy on IRC at 6:00? Why?

Anyways, putting aside the unethicalness (is that a word? ) of am relic raids, you did nice tactics mids. So did Murasaki, now twice the saviour of Excal afaik

Edit: I still don't understand it.. Appelsinjuice seems to play pretty well, why don't you trust him to disease/root tanks off you, instead of using window dragging Remeem? Practicing for ToA?

 

[Escape]

IRC blabbing is lame... but there's no proof that he's a spy/cross-realming.

Setting up a CS and softening keeps would make anyone suspect a RR.

 

[Conoor]

Conoor from Uranicus Phalanx here, well said Dystre and yes we knew you where going for a RR 3-4 hours before you actually did it.

Next time Bad Omen just dont be so obvius about it, we have been pokeing at eachother for along time now :kissit:

We had the jungle drums slamming long before our scout saw your RR force pass mmg, bad thing was we where only between 70 and 90 online all night that was why we only meet you with 1.8 group as dystre mentioned.

But thanks for a fun night and for giving us a few hours to get ready for the final snowdown at Excal <salutes>

PS. stop that windows dragging noncens, its getting tiresome.

 

[Downanael]

Funny to see how many ppl accuse of using window dragging when it got fixed this patch. If you dont have any skill dont call other's cheaters/abusers

 

[InertiaSlave]

I'm a pally. I have end regen running. I'm sprinting. I'm not diseased, snared or rooted. I have -just- hit Remeem, so I know no speed active on him. He easily gains enough distance to stop, cast spread heal, and run on without me hitting him. Stlong warping tbh

But nevermind. Point was we would have been (were, as a matter of fact) prepared long before relic force even gathered at Svasud.

Edit:

bad thing was we where only between 70 and 90 online all night

/who all not long before you hit Renaris was about 65, with ~30 of them at Excal

 

[Conoor]

Atlest it shows that we didn't do it - guess we would have noticed the fix then

 

[InertiaSlave]

 

[Z^^]

mids doing relic raid at 5am and wajns about babblers.. whats next a savage wajning about pallys dmg output... stupid retards.

 

[Ormorof]

mids doing relic raid at 5am and wajns about babblers.. whats next a savage wajning about pallys dmg output... stupid retards.

so.... its ok for albs to blab about mid relic raids but youre all very quick to jump on any mids that even mentions relics? :kissit:

(no i dont like rr blabbers, but i just think its stupid that an alb moans about mids whining )

 

[GrivneKelmorian]

I'm a pally. I have end regen running. I'm sprinting. I'm not diseased, snared or rooted. I have -just- hit Remeem, so I know no speed active on him. He easily gains enough distance to stop, cast spread heal, and run on without me hitting him. Stlong warping tbh

But nevermind. Point was we would have been (were, as a matter of fact) prepared long before relic force even gathered at Svasud.

Edit:

/who all not long before you hit Renaris was about 65, with ~30 of them at Excal

How do you know that? How do you know that BO just wasnt out to drag albs out of albion by taking there keeps? And mid RR force usually dont garther in Svasud when on a RR...

On another note, I find it amusing that albion has, no matter the time of day/night have a stealther out in hadrians wall/pennine mtns/whatever, so that can be blamed if RR is blabbed.

This case it was blabbed before raid so I dont understand how you can defend it. Shame on you and shame on the mofo that did this.

 

[InertiaSlave]

Who's moaning? I'm just asking why whine about 6:00 when the news was out at 2:30 thanks to no room for un-FotM TS hunters in BO group

 

[InertiaSlave]

How do you know that? How do you know that BO just wasnt out to drag albs out of albion by taking there keeps? And mid RR force usually dont garther in Svasud when on a RR...

On another note, I find it amusing that albion has, no matter the time of day/night have a stealther out in hadrians wall/pennine mtns/whatever, so that can be blamed if RR is blabbed.

This was the info my group got from Murasaki while we were still in Emain:

1: Surs looks lvl 10.
2: 16 mids on Bold.
3: Door one down at Bold, mids leaving.
4: No guards killed.

This is the info we already had:

1: Mids have tried for relics pretty intensely lately.
2: Last sunday before ToA hits.

If you add that up and come to the conclusion "BO is out to drag albs out of albion by taking their keeps", I'm glad you're a mid (no offense).

And the other thing:

:worthy: Murasaki :worthy:

Couple nights ago me (on my pally) and Murasaki tried to duo Beno. Shame about the guard pop. Anyways, ask Belx or other stealthers who favour HW nights/mornings. Just coz Midge left the game doesn't mean alb is without eyes in the right place at the right time (thankfully)

Oh, and mids might not gather in Svasud for rr, but I do assume they go through there first.. And this was what I was implying. It wasn't when you passed mmg with main force we knew. It was as soon as BO left Bold.

Btw, funny side note. Bold was AoD claimed, and no AoD was online at the time

Edit: Which btw proves that no mid logged on an alb account and threw /who queries around. Shame on any albs who accuse mids of using such things. Generally I think people are very fast to accuse each other of cheating in this game (which is very hypocritical of me to say, what with the whole Remeem thing earlier in this thread, and if that makes my point any less valid, so be it).

 

[Awarkle]

well i know everyone on my alliance were watching the keep take status none of us went into irc too check if it was.

Instead i said and people can probbaly confirm. O look i think mids going too raid albs relics.

So the alliance went quiet and we watched a few more keeps being taken then i sujested moving the entirety of hibernia too the midgard mile gate

Dont just assume if people come out for a relic defence that they have used IRC . Although that screen shot is pretty obvious i dont understand the reason why peeps would still warn about relic raids it just ruins the game for everyone.

I know Hibernia went through a spot of total paranoia about spys and so the only way information was passed around the realm was secret pms between each guild that attended they then chose if they could trust there guild members.

The fact is spying is wrong there was one time i knew about an alb raid in advance because some friend of mine pmmed me over msn but i ignored it i didnt spam it out over the alliance and 3 hours later all our relics were gone.

Ok it was 4 in the morning and there were 16 people online capable too defend but hey that was albs for you

 

[Conoor]

Well I can only speak for myself, but I knew you where raiding because i could draw from alot of experience in Realm defence, I'am a RR6L3 cleric that have made most of my realm point in keep takes or defences contrary to the norm. (emain).

And because when you got the two keeps I talked abit with other experienced playes and we deducted that you were going to hit us with an early morning raid... thats WHY we had scouts at mmg at that cracy hour!.

When an albion scout saw how you managed to take alot of care not to cause any guard spam what so ever while "removing" a door from our keep boldian we where 110% totally sure we would face a relic raid.

So yes we knew, yes we read your battleplans hours in advance, plain and simple.

I take it this should put an stop to all talk about crossrealming and IRC because we did not have to lower ourself to those cheap tricks to get ready for the RR - as I said before - the way Bad Oman acted (the last sunday before ToA) gave it all away.

 

[TeaSpoon]

When will people get over this?

The IRC blabbers should be shot, regardless of realm.

Stuff off and stop saying all Albs are like this.

I myself have been PM'd with information of somebody sitting in an Internet cafe who was watching the person behind him gather for a RR, and had the balls not to say anything to anyone, and keep it quiet. We're not all out to cheat.

And as for the "Albs are kids remarks"? We'll get the relics back, all of Albion knows that Midgard will be asleep by 8pm otherwise mummy gets mad

 

[GrivneKelmorian]

Stuff off and stop saying all Albs are like this.

correct, far from every alb is this bad xD

but the ones defending the retards that do spy/cheat/whatever (in all realms ofc) should be shot and shut out from the community.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

When I was going berserk on the last day I played, and I submitted various info and asked for clarification on use of IRC. What follows is GOA's stand on IRC. I did inform them that the information was to be shared with other players, I'm not breaking any trust here.

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Reporting a relic raid BEFORE it even started is what we call spying and this is not tolerated. If this happens in game, we investigate as much as possible to find the spies in both realms and take actions. If this happen in IRC or other outside of the game communication tools, the investigations are of course much harder since we cannot consider anything from outside the game as facts. In any case, NO, this is not tolerated and is a clear breach of the CoC (even though the CoC does not apply to IRC and the like).
- Reporting a relic raid after the actual start of it, as it seems to be the case here, is not considered as "fair play" but is tolerated."

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[Conoor]

BUT damn you - we figured out you where RR´ing us 3.5 hours in advance ROFL :kissit:

The reason GoA would define it as spying is that they did not take into the accout that the experience of multible players could SMELL a RR hours in advance.

Yes sure I fell sorry for all of you that got up at such an early time on a sunday, but do consider this - we albs that smelled ... many of us are still awake after have fighing you the hole night and beating you at Excal.

Atlest you got sleep we didn't

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

The info from GOA does not specifically refer to this morning's apparent RR. It was in response to a Right Now submission by myself 2 weeks ago

 

[Conoor]

ok Roo - just hope you see my point