Really starting to dislike rvr how it is atm

Tallen

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So tell me, if the people that whine and are dissatisfied with uk cluster population represent a minority they most likely have quit already? Why is cluster population doing so bad then, surely there is only a minority that has quit? Why do server keep declining, surely it must be a paradise on earth now?

It's quite naive to think it's only the usual whiners that find the cluster populace state unplayable at the moment and a cause for further decline, just because they are the ones that voice their opinions. A cluster population as low as this really doesn't benefit anyone.

As for moaning, of course people will voice their opinion when they are unable to enjoy something they've put alot of work and effort into? Only hope is that GoA soon becomes aware of the severity of the problem and can offers some short term solution and then think of a long term solution. Regrettably, they have shown no iniative to do any such thing yet, which is quite alarming.

Sure, players will always whine, but this situation really is a reason of concern.

I think you have missed the point.
 

Punishment

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True ...

To cluster all of the GOA Servers in NF only is looking likely to be the only way forward for the last year or so of DAOC in europe ...

3 UI'S

English UI
French UI
German UI

Pick your UI and off you go ... language problem solved :D
 

Phule_Gubben

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Pay me a trip to France and back, pay me some coke and pizza, give me a week time and I will sort the language problems that prevent further clustering on my own.

There is only one excuse for not fixing the language barrier: Mythic can't be arsed and doesn't give a shit.

Mythic has nothing to do with clustering, language barriers or whatever over here in Europe. Only GOA can do something about it so just sit right back and relax, it'll be solved soon enough (I hope).
 

liloe

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Mythic has nothing to do with clustering, language barriers or whatever over here in Europe. Only GOA can do something about it so just sit right back and relax, it'll be solved soon enough (I hope).

That's wrong. Mythic codes the game and as such it's not GOA's decision how the language files are handled.

Btw....it's really empty. Only found some albs in laby who managed to kill me, then ran away the 2nd time??? and Biffitheslayer from mid (who is that btw?) who met the cute flying wisps :wub: so I'm logging off :( bleh
 

SkarIronfist

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Mythic has nothing to do with clustering, language barriers or whatever over here in Europe. Only GOA can do something about it so just sit right back and relax, it'll be solved soon enough (I hope).

The language issue is technical problem. It comes down to how Mythic decided to handle langauge within the game. Unfortunately it wasn't flexiable enough to allow for the integration of multiple languages on the same server cluster. Basically if every piece of text had been tokenised using codes and not the true text, then the client would translate the token to its acutal piece of text. So the server would send out the same "code" to all clients and the client would translate.

Now if this is not built in from the start, then it can be a horrendus amount of work retro fit. Sometimes you just have to live with the design decisions made at the start.

Imagine the message from the Server sending the data message

17,Skarbonefist,191

Which is matched up to sprint("#1 Is Hit For #2",Skarbonefist,191)

Which appears on the screen as ....

"Skarbonefist Is Hit For 191 Damage"

Now you have selected English as your DAOC clients default language. But if Mythic didn't do something along those lines, and embedded the text in the actual code, then you have a shed load of work to extract the text and rationalise it into code. To be honest they may have done part of it that way. But every communication has to be language independant.
 

Vonwar

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We need a sign from Goa, about where Dyvet is going...

There are many posts here, read most of them.

I think the biggest problem is the lack of info from Goa about which options they try, which options prove impossible, which options prove possible, to save the Dyvet cluster.

When the players dont have any information at all, a lot of them get impatient, start rolling chars on other clusters or on us, which is the absolutely worst apart from stopping to play, that they can do.

We really need Goa to play along here, giving ppl hints, valuable information, to make the current playerbase stay and play.

No news are good news, does not quite apply here.

Best regards

Vonwar
Guildmaster of Danish Huscarls
 

Calmin

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Yeah in the fg zone, life as a soloer is pretty harsh on avalon. Been fooling around solo on my bm since my grp kinda folded @3 weeks ago, and i think it is around 2 times i have not been added on.. and 90% of stealthers playin in grps of 2-8. only visual soloers i met are valks maulers reavers and armsmen.

Can still be loads of fun in the offpeak hours tho :fluffle:

Sorry to talk Avalon on Dyvet forum!

I've been soloing all weekend on my VW and love it....made so many rps its great...ok stealth zerg can be tough but if you work out their route you can by pass them on the boat and farm visuals / stealthers to your hearts content......prime time it gets tough with the FGs roaming agramon bridges but the lag usually lets you know they're coming!

p.s. have Coo Coo officially folded?
 

Cromcruaich

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Players moaned and whinged when there were too many players and all that the game ever saw was zergs, now they moan and whinge there aren't enough players. Truth is certain people will moan no matter what the state of the game or the situation of the server, they will spit the dummy, go roll US or Avalon and then sneak back in 4 weeks later.

I clearly remember 2 weeks in OF when you couldn't get a single solo fight and even fg's were getting rolled 90% of the time by a zerg. Many of the so-called "soloers" were camping milegates in full stealth groups, sometimes more, and the alb zerg rolling around seemingly 24/7 was 100+ strong.

As long as there is a forum, the vocal minority of people will whine. Thankfully the silent majority of the population don't care and are still enjoying the game and the server. If your idea of fun is queueing up at crau for a duel, fair play, if your idea of fun is farming those who queue up at crau for a duel, fair play also. There are still areas where you can get a few decent solo fights, ok most of the soloers you'll find are rr11, but thats the nature of the beast :)

People do indeed whine either way, however, there is a difference now, the whine is justified, the action is dire by any meaningful measure, the other difference ofcourse is that large portions of the duvet playerbase has actually taken real action and relocated to different servers. The problems arnt just the creation of us FH trolls this time.
 

liloe

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There are many posts here, read most of them.

I think the biggest problem is the lack of info from Goa about which options they try, which options prove impossible, which options prove possible, to save the Dyvet cluster.

When the players dont have any information at all, a lot of them get impatient, start rolling chars on other clusters or on us, which is the absolutely worst apart from stopping to play, that they can do.

We really need Goa to play along here, giving ppl hints, valuable information, to make the current playerbase stay and play.

No news are good news, does not quite apply here.

Best regards

Vonwar
Guildmaster of Danish Huscarls

Yer I agree, it would be nice to know which options they're considering atm, because even if language is not a problem for some players, I think most like their chars and would love to be able to play them again =)
 

Muylaetrix

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Yer I agree, it would be nice to know which options they're considering atm, because even if language is not a problem for some players, I think most like their chars and would love to be able to play them again =)

it`s very simple, the average englishmen doesn`t want cluster with another language server. unles goa ignores those people, there are no options i think.

all of europe, one cluster. one cluster to rule em all imho.

The english habbit of seeing themselves as an isolated entity that is seperate from europe isn`t really helpfull. and before you start the chauvinism, the irish are a lot better when it comes to that, and they are an even more remote isle ;)

unless they make the server language italian for the eropean mix-cluster, i`m cool ;)

but if it means population goes again above 2000 and there are more people to kill, i`d live with italian version of the game, lol
 

Castus

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it`s very simple, the average englishmen doesn`t want cluster with another language server. unles goa ignores those people, there are no options i think.

all of europe, one cluster. one cluster to rule em all imho.

The english habbit of seeing themselves as an isolated entity that is seperate from europe isn`t really helpfull. and before you start the chauvinism, the irish are a lot better when it comes to that, and they are an even more remote isle ;)

unless they make the server language italian for the eropean mix-cluster, i`m cool ;)

but if it means population goes again above 2000 and there are more people to kill, i`d live with italian version of the game, lol

Thats just a blatant attempt at flame baiting.English is by far the most comman language esp amongst game players.You can`t blame our national pride on the death of a server .The games just old news.Others have have come and taken over.If it wasn`t for the PvP element holding onto the last few dregs it would be long gone.
 

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it`s very simple, the average englishmen doesn`t want cluster with another language server. unles goa ignores those people, there are no options i think.

all of europe, one cluster. one cluster to rule em all imho.

The english habbit of seeing themselves as an isolated entity that is seperate from europe isn`t really helpfull. and before you start the chauvinism, the irish are a lot better when it comes to that, and they are an even more remote isle ;)

unless they make the server language italian for the eropean mix-cluster, i`m cool ;)

but if it means population goes again above 2000 and there are more people to kill, i`d live with italian version of the game, lol



More complete and utter BULLSHIT from the master himself.

Out of all the players people use as an excuse to leave cluster.. really, you are No 1. People feeling ambiguous about the game, should I stay, hmm should I go....your the extra kilo on the scale that tips it one way - I hope your proud.
 

Kagato

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People feeling ambiguous about the game, should I stay, hmm should I go....your the extra kilo on the scale that tips it one way - I hope your proud.

Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out.
 

Ritchie

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just allow people to port between different NFs over all the servers, and just put up with whatever languedge the server you want to play on, fgs accross all the servers could specifiy a sever where they could have fg v fg fights and solo fights aswell and obviously still be able to port to a zerged nf for whatever type of rvr you want

with what exists already for clustering and porting i dont think that would be so hard to impliment compared to a multi languedge thing. Will keep everyone happy with english servers still but the added options of going to a different NF where you will have to put up with a different languedge but if you dont want to play it in a different languedge go back to your own nf. I know english nf wouldnt have much action as people would go to the higher populated servers but this would allow fgs to go there and solos hassle free so would create action enough if you so badly dont want to play in german :p
 

Quantaco

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There is a problem with excaprydibur population!?!

Aint the population problem, but seem people would like to move the most benefit realm. Eg.. Start with Albs zerg keep then suddenly Mid zerg appear but few hour later there isnt any mid but 2-3fgh on stick zerg appear but by that time not much alb and not even 1fgm there.

But nevermind cant help. no cluster timer they can do whatever they like.

As hib still become a low population realm, really dont think they could afford to get a relic or even unlocked some hard quest e.g unlock mauler.

I aint want to offense Hibs or any member or GOA staff, but really this kind of crap that GOA has decide is really Bull Shit. And that really has make the game even dead.
 

Muylaetrix

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As hib still become a low population realm, really dont think they could afford to get a relic or even unlocked some hard quest e.g unlock mauler.

I aint want to offense Hibs or any member or GOA staff, but really this kind of crap that GOA has decide is really Bull Shit. And that really has make the game even dead.

how long ago was it you been on the server ? hibs were the first to unlock mauler, and they currently hold 4 relics and dominate rvr.

and what kinda crap from GOA you talking about ? not a clue what you are on about.
 

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how long ago was it you been on the server ? hibs were the first to unlock mauler, and they currently hold 4 relics and dominate rvr.

and what kinda crap from GOA you talking about ? not a clue what you are on about.

That's not great news oO
 

Muylaetrix

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More complete and utter BULLSHIT from the master himself.

Out of all the players people use as an excuse to leave cluster.. really, you are No 1. People feeling ambiguous about the game, should I stay, hmm should I go....your the extra kilo on the scale that tips it one way - I hope your proud.

"les excuses sont faites pour s`en servir."

you can seek excuses all you want. point is the game is 5 years old. english server cluster population is in decline faster than any other cluster from either goa or mythic for various reasons. with every expansion people from uk moved to US to check out the new stuff, not everyone always came back, this affected english servers more than the german/french servers. people grew bored of the game, the competitive crews left for servers with more people to kill...

people made up SHITLOADS of excuses about their motivations to leave or stay.

blame me all you want if it makes you feel better tbh.
 

dub

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some people are just not fun to play with , deal with it :)
 

Gahn

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what did goa soo wrong that you decided to move to another goa server and not to a mythic server or another game ?

Cause the Sotg shit is an exclusive of the English Team right now and i didn't want to shift my playtime, pretty simple ain't it, also there weren't any kind of action for my likings? i guess the move, despite what some bandwagon of leftover players on Dyvet think, succeded as well ...
 

anioal

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how long ago was it you been on the server ? hibs were the first to unlock mauler, and they currently hold 4 relics and dominate rvr.

and what kinda crap from GOA you talking about ? not a clue what you are on about.

yes, because hibs were the first to organize a raid to unlock mauler

hibs dominate rvr? "how long ago was it you been on the server ?" rofl

you better check the warroom. mids retook their pow relic and albs took mid str relic from hibs...
 

Muylaetrix

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yes, because hibs were the first to organize a raid to unlock mauler

hibs dominate rvr? "how long ago was it you been on the server ?" rofl

you better check the warroom. mids retook their pow relic and albs took mid str relic from hibs...

oops, didn`t check today, just used coffee break in the office to catch up a bit on FH. soz for that.

yes to me it feels that hibs dominate RVR, i don`t think there is anything out there that can challenge AE at the moment. their domination reminds me of the impact DH had a few years ago. probably the extra relic punch helped them a bit too over the last week...

and for the record, albs did organized attempts before the hib one succeeded, they were just unsuccesfull.
 

anioal

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yes to me it feels that hibs dominate RVR, i don`t think there is anything out there that can challenge AE at the moment. their domination reminds me of the impact DH had a few years ago. probably the extra relic punch helped them a bit too over the last week...

and because 2-3 times per week AE can field a grp capable of wiping alb zergs, especially in tower warfare, hibs are dominating RVR? nice one.

next week you will RN them to GOA because they are killing Dyvet, right?
 

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