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[Raven]

IF you have to emergency break, which you shouldn't have to be doing anyway. I've certainly not had to do it so far this year, for example.

The chances of an accident increase under other conditions...


Edit: Under normal driving conditions the gap to the car in front of you should allow for gentle breaking - so are you worried that a tailgater will hit you under your normal gentle breaking? If that's the case you're either a scared driver (which you admit) or aren't leaving enough gap in the first place.

Bullshit, what happens if someone pulls out of a side road or a kid walks into the road? You should always be ready for an emergency stop. I had to just last night because some ballbag on his phone pulled straight out in front of me. I had to the other week because some cyclist decided to just cross over traffic from the other side of the road so he could join the cycle path.

Paying attention to what other road users (and non road users) are doing is essential to safe driving.

and like I said, there is no way on earth the car behind will stop or react with a 1 foot gap, if they aren't to back off then the only safe thing to do is slow down.

 

[soze]

I had the worlds slowest and most pointless crash today. Waiting to turn left at a round about. It has 4 exits and over at the 3rd exit indicating left was a Fire Engine. So seeing everything to the right was stopped I started rolling forward. And hit this fucker up the arse at about half a maile an hour. There was no damage but the woman was hamming it so much she called the police and an ambulance.

I am fairly sure nothing will come of it as I think I remmeber you can't claim whiplash under a certian speed? Still wasted a hour of my life.

Talking about accidents I decided to call my insurance to see where this had got too. The guy I was talking to said they have denied the claim as the other side took the car to the wrong garage and submitted a non itemised bill for nearly £3k. All it said was repair crash damage in a hand written note lol. I knew it was a scam and this proves it even more the car is not worth £3k on its best day. I would put money on her being related to the guy at the garage and I hope she gets done for Fraud.

 

[Scouse]

Bullshit, what happens if someone pulls out of a side road or a kid walks into the road? You should always be ready for an emergency stop.

Yes. You always should. And you should already be driving at an appropriate speed that forsees this very eventuality.

However, if you are to drive safely you should also be aware that deliberately slowing down in a tailgater's face increases some dangers - and you shouldn't have to do that anyway because A) you should already have an appropriate gap in front and B) you should already be driving at an appropriate speed.


If you're driving correctly you don't need to slow down because of tailgaters.

 

[Raven]

...but you cannot dictate the gap behind you...

..So the only way to make sure an accident is avoided in the event of an emergency stop is to bring the speed down to the length of the gap... behind you. So 1 foot, around 5-10 miles an hour.

 

[Moriath]

If you have to break hard to ensure that you don't hit the car in front then the gap is already inappropriate.

Didnt mean hard but hard enough that the twat behind wont react in time wouldnt be hard at all. I guess you have never had to break hard when your driving tho. Doing 70 on a motorway with a two second recommended gap you still have to break hard to stop in that distance.

 

[Scouse]

...but you cannot dictate the gap behind you...

I agree. No you can't.

If you're driving correctly I'm saying the gap behind you is irrelevant.

Tailgaters are a fact of driving. Making things more dangerous in response to them is the wrong solution.

 

[soze]

No, it's just a realistic fact of driving.

If you're driving correctly then you shouldn't need to slow down to increase the gap on the car in front...

There are literally hundreds of times where it is not true. I had to break fairly well twice this week. Firstly when this old bint pulled out into traffic with nowhere near a big enough gap and she just gave me the well you had time to stop look, which I did but it was still more emergency breaking than normal breaking. The second time a dickhead in his BMW pulls across the road into my lane then blocked the whole road to reverse into his drive. There was no traffic behind me so I stopped absolutely fine but again it was hard breaking because of the way some other idiot was driving. You can simply not say that if you drive properly you can avoid accidents. You can't account for the actions of others.

 

[Scouse]

You can simply not say that if you drive properly you can avoid accidents. You can't account for the actions of others.

I never said avoid completely. I explictly said the exact opposite of that knowing that people on here would jump for that argument.

You can minimise the risks. Tailgating is a fact of driving as much as arseholes pulling out in front of you. You should *already* be driving with both those scenarios in mind.

But meh. Getting circular now.

 

[Scouse]

@Raven - would you agree that the safest thing to do if you're worried about tailgaters is to move over so the guy who wants to go faster can safely pass?

Or are you one of these hicks that detest being overtaken and see it as a slight on your masculinity, or something, and therefore slow the traffic down whilst blocking any attempt at overtakes?

 

[Moriath]

@Raven - would you agree that the safest thing to do if you're worried about tailgaters is to move over so the guy who wants to go faster can safely pass?

Or are you one of these hicks that detest being overtaken and see it as a slight on your masculinity, or something, and therefore slow the traffic down whilst blocking any attempt at overtakes?

Being tailgated on a 30 or 40 mph single carriage way theres no where to pull over to.

 

[Raven]

I really wonder how some people even pass the test these days...

 

[Hawkwind]

having to sit through the last 2 hours of a 2 day meeting which was spoken totally in Tuirkish and had no relevance to my boss and my team being there.

Was told afterwards that an hour of that was mostly internal (airline) arguments about whether to keep a birthday greeting function in an on-board (aircraft) portal when people login with their frequent flyer details

 

[Hawkwind]

Being tailgated on a 30 or 40 mph single carriage way theres no where to pull over to.

Wave them through on a blind corner with a lorry approaching in the other direction. Would be the safest for humanity in the long term

 

[Tom]

If you're driving correctly you don't need to slow down because of tailgaters.

There's a caveat to that, which is that if a vehicle tailgating you presents a clear danger in a situation where you have to slow down due to some unforseen hazard ahead, then I think it's a good idea to increase the gap in front of you.

For instance, when I approach the back of standing traffic on the motorway, I leave an enormous gap in front of me until I'm sure the traffic behind has seen that I've slowed or stopped. Because I don't want to become a human filling between two slices of steel bread.

 

[Scouse]

That's just sensible driving tho @Tom.

I'm particularly addressing @soze's original post.

 

[Tom]

I agree slowing down to annoy tailgaters is a bad idea. However, when people tailgate me, I certainly find myself in no hurry to get to where I'm going. And I suddenly find myself paying more attention to my car's fuel efficiency when slowing or accelerating at junctions.

Interestingly, not 20 minutes ago some cunt got about 3 feet from my rear wheel while I was cycling. Some fat, old, ugly cunt in one of those shitty blue/green metallic french car/van Kangoo things. If I'd caught him I'm pretty sure I would have taken a brick to his car.

 

[old.user4556]

<football chant>

@Scouse - arrreeeee you tooohhhhtt in disguise!

</football chant>

 

[Raven]

@Raven - would you agree that the safest thing to do if you're worried about tailgaters is to move over so the guy who wants to go faster can safely pass?

Isn't that the sort of thing you say cyclists shouldn't have to do?

If you are going to troll at least keep it consistent.

 

[old.user4556]

So the Forth Road Bridge is closed until the new year (at the earliest) - nobody is allowed on the bridge for safety reasons, seems like perfect sense in the face of some very stormy weather. It's a ballache, but the local area / Edinburgh will manage. There have been tweets and opinions being discussed on the BBC all day, then I came across this:

Would it be possible to keep the bridge open to cyclists? This could be a fantastic opportunity for those who have never considered cycling to give it a go. An hour or so on a bike is probably preferable to sitting in a car for hours on end. This would stop the inevitable conflict when cyclists take their bikes onto the very crammed trains.

"This could be a fantastic opportunity for those who have never considered cycling to give it a go" - fuck off, cunt. If you want to give cycling a go, go on the road / cycle lanes (of which there are many here) and give it a go any time / any day. Fill your fucking boots. But to use this opportunity to push a cycling agenda? Get in the fucking sea. There's cracks in the bridge, it's closed for safety / high winds, and this prick chimes in asking for special dispensation for cyclists. Fuck-trumpet.

 

[Raven]

Should let them use it, especially if its cracked.

 

[Edmond]

Did a speed awareness course a few weeks ago and the guy said if someone is up his arse he just pulls into a layby to let them go past and them pulls back out

 

[Raven]

Having a shower, getting dressed for work xmas do.

Thinking about making a move.

Need a shit.

 

[old.user4556]

I hate needing a shit after a shower

 

[DaGaffer]

Storm-fucking-Desmond. Just tried to land in Dublin twice, failed because of high winds, now I'm in Manchester. No idea when we're going to try to go back to Dublin again.

Got to admit the turbulence was a bit sphincter-tightening.

 

[old.user4556]

It's brutal where I am, really bad.

My mudhut won't stand much longer and the sheep have all bolted. At least there's no electricity here to be cut off.

 

[Gwadien]

Storm-fucking-Desmond. Just tried to land in Dublin twice, failed because of high winds, now I'm in Manchester. No idea when we're going to try to go back to Dublin again.

Got to admit the turbulence was a bit sphincter-tightening.

Did you tell the pilot that he landed in the wrong airport?

 

[TdC]

Did you tell the pilot that he landed in the wrong airport?

isn't it landing at? I'm fairly sure landing IN an airport is worse than bad turbulence :-(

 

[CorNokZ]

isn't it landing at? I'm fairly sure landing IN an airport is worse than bad turbulence :-(

Depends on the perspective and purpose, I guess?

 

[DaGaffer]

Just landed in Dublin. Fuck me, I've been sat on a Ryan Air flight for six hours. Isn't that some kind of crime against humanity?

 

[Yoni]

Just landed in Dublin. Fuck me, I've been sat on a Ryan Air flight for six hours. Isn't that some kind of crime against humanity?

Yes it bloody is