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Anyway, as for drugs. globally, we waste billions of dollars a year and billions of man hours on the "war on drugs" and have virtually no effect whatsoever. We as a species have been wasting our time on the war on drugs for decades.

Vast amounts of drugs are still consumed. Vast amounts of money still goes to horrible bastards.

Legalise it and see that problem go away. Not only that but a whole new legal industry is formed overnight, bringing with it employment, massive tax incomes, regulation which would help bring down the cost of fixing people who have bad (as in not what they thought they were taking) drugs.

Its a massive win-win.

Nobody cares that they are illegal, they still take them.

(and no I don't really take drugs any more, maybe the odd joint when playing golf or camping)
 

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And on the parts that aren't, I'm guessing that the cyclists who those those parts are routinely falling off their bikes and smearing their skulls over the floor?

Probably. People do still die and get injured, so I would imagine that's happening more often where there are other vehicles, obstructions, kerbs and shit on the roads like diesel. On the cycle paths I'm sure people fall off (due to other cyclists, stupidity, ice) but there's going to be less to hurt yourself on and less chance of it happening in the first place.
 

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I have though that as well. Pay farmers for Opium in Afghanistan which might weaken the Taliban. You can make sure it is clean. You can sell it in different strength levels. You can tax it. And by making it legal you can make it possible for people to get it without stealing which might help with crime. You would also take out all of the drug barons and dealers and stop turf wars.
 

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And on the parts that aren't, I'm guessing that the cyclists who those those parts are routinely falling off their bikes and smearing their skulls over the floor?
You know thats such a bullshit response. No but theres more chance of them having a bad interaction with larger , faster moving vehicles when not on a seperated path. Also slipping on oil, or fuel spills.
 

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Spend 3k on a 65inch touchscreen monitor and a micro PC

Can't get it to work because the supplier didn't realise the PC only has a micro HDMI port and the cable supplied is normal HDMI.

Twats, a further £4 spent at Amazon and have to wait 3 days.
Surely you could go to local maplins and have it working in an hour?
 

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More people die falling down staircases than falling from a bicycle. Nobody ever suggests that people using staircases should wear a helmet. Heck, more people die every year through simple falls than traffic collisions.

The only people who think cyclists should wear helmets are those who think that cycling is dangerous. It is not. You're more likely to die choking on your food than you are banging your head while falling from a bike.
Then why the fuck do we have to constantly listen to bleeting in the news about stupid fucks that thought they could take on an articulated lorry.

IT'S TAKING VALUABLE TIME AWAY FROM ALL THOSE POOR STAIRCASE VICTIMS!!!!! :eek:
 

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Then why the fuck do we have to constantly listen to bleeting in the news about stupid fucks that thought they could take on an articulated lorry.
Could be that if they weren't wearing helmets then they'd have missed the lorries because A) they'd have been taking more care and B) the lorries would have been giving them more leeway - as the evidence suggests :)


And anyway - flimsy polystyrene doesn't help against lorries... :p
 

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I wondered how so many Cyclists were getting killed by lorries in London. Then I saw one take out a car at the end of the road near work. This thing turned and must have been overhanging the kurb by a good foot and a half and when he tried to correct he pulled the side pannel off a car on the other side of the road.
 

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As usual I'm lost. I assume something obscene has been deleted.

Yup, although it was still there in the quoted one when you looked, you just didn't unravel the spoiler tags right :p
 

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Does anybody else think that's it just smack-me-in-the-face hilarious that the gif was deleted from my post but not from the post @Moriath made, quoting me, to complain about my use of the gif? :D

@Moriath I can't believe you would post such filth you absolute animal.

:confused:

I'm such a n00b :D
 

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You know thats such a bullshit response. No but theres more chance of them having a bad interaction with larger , faster moving vehicles when not on a seperated path. Also slipping on oil, or fuel spills.

But I rarely cycle on busy roads. Most of the time I'm on quiet country lanes with low traffic levels. So why should I wear a helmet?
 

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Then why the fuck do we have to constantly listen to bleeting in the news about stupid fucks that thought they could take on an articulated lorry.

Because lorries have gigantic blind spots into which some inexperienced cyclists move. Of course, some lorry drivers just don't pay attention and turn across cyclists doing absolutely nothing wrong too. They're a fatally flawed design. It's like selling a car with half your windscreen blanked off. Helmets do nothing to protect against this.

On construction sites, vehicles like this are legally required to have a banksman. But once they're out on the road there are no such rules. Stupid tbh.
 

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But I rarely cycle on busy roads. Most of the time I'm on quiet country lanes with low traffic levels. So why should I wear a helmet?
You dont have to if you dont want to.

We are just discussing how its more dangerous to ride a bike than you make out is all. :)
 

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We are just discussing how its more dangerous to ride a bike than you make out is all. :)
No - what's happening is people are reiterating their mistaken belief that cycle helmets make you safer - whereas the actual evidence says that in some circumstances they're a help whilst in others they're a hinderance - and overall the wearing or not wearing of a helmet doesn't make much of a difference to your mortality - with the balance probably tipped against the wearing of helmets...
 

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No - what's happening is people are reiterating their mistaken belief that cycle helmets make you safer - whereas the actual evidence says that in some circumstances they're a help whilst in others they're a hinderance - and overall the wearing or not wearing of a helmet doesn't make much of a difference to your mortality - with the balance probably tipped against the wearing of helmets...
No tom said walking down the staires was more dangerous than riding a bike.

I accept that there may be inconclusive evidence one way or the other about their overall benefit. But tom made some claims that were just misleading and untrue.
 

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How about if you walk down the stairs, carrying your bike with your helmet on backwards, that's got to be way more dangerous than riding it
 

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tom made some claims that were just misleading and untrue.

Can you present any evidence for that or is that just a gut feeling?

Have a careful look at this page.

If you look at the image after studying the figures in the graph you'll see that the risk of dying from various activities - including falls - isn't necessarily what you may think.

Walking down the stairs may well be more dangerous than cycling - and there's certainly not much difference between the risks of dying from cycling and football and sky diving (!).


My point is (other than the above being simply interesting) - gut feelings are a shit tool for assessing risk.
 

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Additional info about bicycle helmets (worth a proper read)

from that "briefing for legislators" said:
If the government were to achieve its target of trebling cycle use in the period 2000-2010, that might achieve more in the fight against obesity than any other individual measure

Cycle helmets became compulsory in New Zealand from 1st January 1994. The law was enforced with vigour, driving adult helmet use up from 40% to 90%+ where it has remained. However, there was no reduction in the severity of serious head injuries . Cycle use fell by 22% between 1993 and 1997

If you want an effective approach to debating harm, risk, healthcare, long-term outcomes you've got to ditch the type of arguing methods we have on this forum, which are based on gut feeling, and start to examine the evidence...
 

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Anyway, random annoying things. Like when, 2 miles into a 5 mile run, my guts suddenly decided they wanted a huge shit. Running 3 miles with a big log waiting to be laid isn't nice. And also, I've noticed the last few years that the cheese-making department of my body seems to have gone into overtime.
 

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I hate that Trip Advisor Advert with the stupid dog that Barks book in such an annoying and pointlessly fake way it makes me want to throat punch the cunt that came up with it.
 

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I have no doubt that you can use stats to support any case but tom put it that more people injured themselves falling down stairs than falling off bikes.

The obvious answer to that is more people walk down stairs than ride bikes.

Now you bring in the fact that you can manipulate those figures to take account of that discrepancy. This wasnt in the original argument and may or maynot be true as i havent read it all.

It still stands that toms statement as it stood without additional caveats was inaccurate.

Now wearing a helmet might make you more prone to to having an accident because your more likely to take risks as you feel safer. But in either case if you fall off your bike and hit your head on a curb your head will be in better shape had you been wearing a helmet.

Not disputing the likelihood of it happening in the first place. But the outcome of it if it does.

Which is why you wear a helmet when your off roading. As you are more likely to have an off.

Its just a toss up of what could happen if you have an accident over how likely am i to have one. Which are two different things.
 

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Anyway, random annoying things. Like when, 2 miles into a 5 mile run, my guts suddenly decided they wanted a huge shit. Running 3 miles with a big log waiting to be laid isn't nice. And also, I've noticed the last few years that the cheese-making department of my body seems to have gone into overtime.
Hehe do a paula radcliff.
 

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I hate that Trip Advisor Advert with the stupid dog that Barks book in such an annoying and pointlessly fake way it makes me want to throat punch the cunt that came up with it.
If i could i would have ten agrees on this.
 

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Way to not even try to enter into the spirit of enlightened discussion, with an added dollop of number paranoia on top m8. Suffice it to say, I made an evidence-based point about the potential relative dangers of staircases and cycling that you've either missed or ignored.

But furry nuff. Meh :)
 

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