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Corran
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gomez got fingertips to the ball, but he went through the man and took him down afterwards. If that happened by two outfield players then the defender would have been penalised due to taking out the man (hitting a player at that force would have been classed as dangerous play). You see decisions like that week in and week out. (and yes, if it was given against man utd i would understand it but wouldnt be happy.)
The penalty didnt change the game though, utd looked like they would get that goal quickly with or without the decision, and makes up for last week decisions. Everything levels up (and dont see Liverpool fans complaining about the decision for their first goal but of cause it wouldnt).
Really spurs were lucky not to be down to 10 men, palacios tackle on ronaldo was two footed, high and a career ender, luckily Ronaldo avoided it. Seen red cards for less then attempted tackles like that. However i agree with webbs dealing off it, though he probably should have booked the guy to calm him down.
Anyways, not going to argue that i feel it was a penalty as that takes away from the performance.
The penalty didnt change the game though, utd looked like they would get that goal quickly with or without the decision, and makes up for last week decisions. Everything levels up (and dont see Liverpool fans complaining about the decision for their first goal but of cause it wouldnt).
Really spurs were lucky not to be down to 10 men, palacios tackle on ronaldo was two footed, high and a career ender, luckily Ronaldo avoided it. Seen red cards for less then attempted tackles like that. However i agree with webbs dealing off it, though he probably should have booked the guy to calm him down.
Anyways, not going to argue that i feel it was a penalty as that takes away from the performance.
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tbh I was screaming at Carrick for going down to easily. After watching the replays I still don't think it was a penalty, Gomez got clear contact on the ball and that is all you can ask of a goalkeeper, theyhave to dive at the feet and commit themselves to the challenge even if they get the ball they can't then get out of the way because their momentum is taking them forwards.
We got lucky with the decision, but you could see with the subs that the game was only going to go one way, bent's injury and Harry's lack of belief in huddlestone added to spurs problems.
We got lucky with the decision, but you could see with the subs that the game was only going to go one way, bent's injury and Harry's lack of belief in huddlestone added to spurs problems.
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he went through carrick after he got fingertips, if a player just got studs clipping the ball but smashed through the player afterwards with lots of force it be classed as a foul (wrongly imo but that how the referees are now days).
In webbs defense, even if the fingertips were enough to not give a penalty, it was so faint, and the direction change (after carrick had tried to play it past him) was so minimal that would have had very little chance of noticing it.
(ok i lied about not talking about it. heh)
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2 pitch invasions in about a week, you should be docked points/fined/relegated/dissolved etc... :|
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Hell no, the police let us and stopped the barnsley fans with horses
.Seeing on repeats, the blues fans doing the conga only for preston to score a later winner.. was absolutely priceless
Come on you Blades, knock the Blouses out of the auto's
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I have to agree. I wonder if they will have an open bus parade around the city for being ahead for 10 minutes in the game.
Can't see them getting anything out of Reading next weekend, the play-offs beckon for the Blue Noses...
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i was pretty stunned with the way the game turned around though, wonder what fergie said at half time hehe
from listening to radio sounds like scholes came on and started kicking people though, anyone watch the game to confirm/disagree?
from listening to radio sounds like scholes came on and started kicking people though, anyone watch the game to confirm/disagree?
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was more than a bit a of fortune about most of man u's goals, build up play was absolutly fantastic tho,
never a pen, don't care what your rose tinted glasses see. he won the ball, doesnt amtter if he takes the man, he completly changed the balls direction,
4th and 5th goals very lucky aswell
4th did just cross the line, but seen plently of them not givern and 5th was comical defending from spurs, gomes and i think it was woodgate jsut kicking the ball at each other
also looks like pepe has a new member in his joey barton apreciation club in caleb folan
im sure it will be on you tube soon enought but he hit skrtel in the back of the head twice (no real power) then as skrtel was going down booted him in the ribs even tho the ball was about 20 meters away
CLASSY
never a pen, don't care what your rose tinted glasses see. he won the ball, doesnt amtter if he takes the man, he completly changed the balls direction,
4th and 5th goals very lucky aswell
4th did just cross the line, but seen plently of them not givern and 5th was comical defending from spurs, gomes and i think it was woodgate jsut kicking the ball at each other
also looks like pepe has a new member in his joey barton apreciation club in caleb folan
im sure it will be on you tube soon enought but he hit skrtel in the back of the head twice (no real power) then as skrtel was going down booted him in the ribs even tho the ball was about 20 meters away
CLASSY
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Couldn't agree more, the 'keeper timed his intervention to perfection. I'd suggest the referee realised his mistake immediately, didn't have the stones to change his decision with Fergie and 70,000 cockney's baying for blood so only gave a yellow card.
Spurs folded so quickly though, no fight about them at all.
I felt dirty hoping Man United would win, how bad has Villa's season gone when we're worried about Spurs/Fulham/Everton jumping above us in the table.
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seeing more replayed, gomez got a bit more of the ball then i thought. But as i said, outfield with massive contact like that after getting a touch on the ball and going right through the player then a freekick would be given. But to be fair that typical "keeper protection" (ie same with jumping towards them when ball in the air most often get penalised but 2 outfield players nothing would happen)
Was a harsh decision, but one you see often and can totaly understand (if rules were equal in regards to keeper actions and player actions) it the way football works and makes up for a clear cut penalty last week not being given. Still dont think it made a difference to the result as we were on the up.
Shock horror, the BBC totally forgot to mention the palacios attempted leg break challenge (watch the replays and you see he never was worried about winning the ball and wanted to take ronaldo).
So sure, Spurs can moan about the harsh decision but the goal was coming anyways and once had one we were always likely to get at least a point out the game, most likely more.
The bbc pundits keep saying that penalty was the turning point, forgetting that in the run up to that we were carving spurs open at will and that the true turning point was half time when the Tevez game on for the lackluster Nani. Spurs didnt seem to know how to cope with the changed setup in the sliightest.
Will end the "penalty" debate now myself, unless a debate about the liverpool opener (which demorilized hull just at half time) which was a complete clear cut no brainer of a decision with masch going down with the hull player a yard away and getting given a freekick (not a dive, he just cant control his own feet and seemed teh ref wanted to give any decision so that he could give a yellow card for the foul on benyoun when he played advantage).
More twists to the league to come yet, it isnt over. And a couple of hard games against arsenal whihc may please you other football fans. (i hate how the debates are always on decision involving man utd and no one likes to debate the other teams wrong decisions .... to which there been many. Think i bring them up every week that i see one just to get some balance)
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and before people say Webb must support united which why he gave the decision (as people in other boards saying) - remember this is the referee that has sent 2 manchester united players of this season (ronaldo and vidic both red carded - that 40% of the total red cards in around 40 games he given)
Was a harsh decision, but one you see often and can totaly understand (if rules were equal in regards to keeper actions and player actions) it the way football works and makes up for a clear cut penalty last week not being given. Still dont think it made a difference to the result as we were on the up.
Shock horror, the BBC totally forgot to mention the palacios attempted leg break challenge (watch the replays and you see he never was worried about winning the ball and wanted to take ronaldo).
So sure, Spurs can moan about the harsh decision but the goal was coming anyways and once had one we were always likely to get at least a point out the game, most likely more.
The bbc pundits keep saying that penalty was the turning point, forgetting that in the run up to that we were carving spurs open at will and that the true turning point was half time when the Tevez game on for the lackluster Nani. Spurs didnt seem to know how to cope with the changed setup in the sliightest.
Will end the "penalty" debate now myself, unless a debate about the liverpool opener (which demorilized hull just at half time) which was a complete clear cut no brainer of a decision with masch going down with the hull player a yard away and getting given a freekick (not a dive, he just cant control his own feet and seemed teh ref wanted to give any decision so that he could give a yellow card for the foul on benyoun when he played advantage).
More twists to the league to come yet, it isnt over. And a couple of hard games against arsenal whihc may please you other football fans. (i hate how the debates are always on decision involving man utd and no one likes to debate the other teams wrong decisions .... to which there been many. Think i bring them up every week that i see one just to get some balance
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and before people say Webb must support united which why he gave the decision (as people in other boards saying) - remember this is the referee that has sent 2 manchester united players of this season (ronaldo and vidic both red carded - that 40% of the total red cards in around 40 games he given)
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what are you going on about? you've had a fantastic season, villa fans honestly spit the dummy out more.
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masch didnt dive, he tripped over his own feet like an idiot
Just some more facts for the ABU's
The fact that Liverscum have had more penalties given to them than the other "big 3" in the PL.
The fact thay in 9 PL games Liverscum opposition have been down to 10 men.
The fact that Spurs should have been down to 10 men when Palacios challenge should have been red.
Nevermind keep on crying about Utd, 10 more points needed and I cant wait to see us lifting the trophy again for the 18th time and once and for all shutting up thosed mugs down the road. 20 years and still no Premier League title.
The fact that Liverscum have had more penalties given to them than the other "big 3" in the PL.
The fact thay in 9 PL games Liverscum opposition have been down to 10 men.
The fact that Spurs should have been down to 10 men when Palacios challenge should have been red.
Nevermind keep on crying about Utd, 10 more points needed and I cant wait to see us lifting the trophy again for the 18th time and once and for all shutting up thosed mugs down the road. 20 years and still no Premier League title.
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Honestly why are we still discussing the penalty?
Palacios -it was a stupid challenge, it was not red purely for the fact that he missed completely. I think the ref did well to lecture him and warm him as soon as play had stopped, it was a stupid challenge, and Ronaldo and Palacios are lucky it did not make contact.
Palacios -it was a stupid challenge, it was not red purely for the fact that he missed completely. I think the ref did well to lecture him and warm him as soon as play had stopped, it was a stupid challenge, and Ronaldo and Palacios are lucky it did not make contact.
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I find it funny, that if someone (regardless of who they cheer for) mention that United got a cheap penalty or something the united fans reply with bringing up that Liverpool got a cheap XXX last game!
why? Because no one else debates other teams dodgy decisions to make out it only happens in regards to Man Utd decisions (in the main) and then try to make out that it the sole reason for certain results negating all the decisions that go against united in other games.
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OK. I'll say this then, it's not only United. It's all the top teams in all the top leagues get consistently favored by the refs. Regardless if the fans wanna see it or not (the fans of the teams outside the top teams see it for certain
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OK. I'll say this then, it's not only United. It's all the top teams in all the top leagues get consistently favored by the refs. Regardless if the fans wanna see it or not (the fans of the teams outside the top teams see it for certain
every ref favours towards a different team, it not just the top 4 who admittingly get some favourable decisions. But other teams also get the same sort of decisions at some point in the season.
To be fair, in regards to penalty decisions, the top 4 have more clear cut penalties denied however also have more debatable ones given because they get in the box much more often and generally with more pace then the lower teams.
Free flowing quick football = more penalties (and more debatable ones) because they get forward so quickly the ref can be left a long way behind play and theirfore have a harder decision to make due to his view not being great.
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as much as arsenal are controlling this game at the moment they are running risk of dropping points. With that said they lucky to get the goal allowed as clearly bednter (wasnt it?) was in an off side position and clearly interferring with play by running infront of the keeper. And wont mention the penalty appeal that is bound to go unmentioned.
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lol such anger... fag
Wow this coming from Mr internet hardman.
Enjoy another trophyless season lmao.
No trophy since 2006 and counting.
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lol since when am i an internet hard man? hahaha find me one post where ive threaten to do anything to any1 irl or otherwise or stfu u retarded little child, ur becoming the keitan of man u fans
FAG!!!!!!!!!