Politics POLL: Brexit Withdrawal Agreement

[Wij]

If you leave, we'll just come and raid you all over again, but this time it'll probably be easier seeing as the country is already in ruins

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I reluctantly agree to your offer of sex0r.

 

[Bodhi]

If you leave, we'll just come and raid you all over again, but this time it'll probably be easier seeing as the country is already in ruins

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Won't all your boats be busy taking immigrants to Lindholm Island?

 

[CorNokZ]

Won't all your boats be busy taking immigrants to Lindholm Island?

Half the fleet shall bring dangerous criminal immigrants to Dancatraz and the other half shall plunder England!

 

[Wij]

Half the fleet shall bring dangerous criminal immigrants to Dancatraz and the other half shall plunder England!

Ouch, my p13!!!

 

[CorNokZ]

Hmm, just had a look at the GDP, and quite frankly there's not much left to plunder...

Could still rape though...

*Googles British women*

*retires longboats*

 

[Bodhi]

You already have most of our GDP - we've spent it all on bacon.

Mmmmmm, bacon.

 

[Gwadien]

What a pitiful attempt to hold onto power.

 

[BloodOmen]

What a pitiful attempt to hold onto power.

she's getting fucking hammered and rightly so.

 

[Wij]

View: https://twitter.com/hugorifkind/status/1072222352035987456

 

[caLLous]

 

[BloodOmen]

Wonder when Corbyn will table a no confidence vote, he has the support of both the SNP and Lib Dems and surprisingly even some Tories, she's done the moment he does it.

 

[caLLous]

the moment he does it.

Therein lies the problem. He doesn't want the job until March next year.

 

[BloodOmen]

Therein lies the problem. He doesn't want the job until March next year.

Pretty much but at this point, I'd wager he'll be pressured into it.

And above all that

EU president tells Theresa May Brexit deal renegotiation 'will not happen'

So she's delayed it for fuck all.

 

[Hawkwind]

View: https://twitter.com/Haggis_UK/status/1070615160727986176

Honestly this is BS, before the free movement of goods all companies had to complete Carnets or Duplicate lists (if the goods were returning) when their goods were going into the EU. The same as they do if it was going to US, Canada or anywhere else in the world. I did that loads of times going into France, Germany and Holland. It's just relearning what we did before and have to do everywhere else.

 

[Hawkwind]

If you leave, we'll just come and raid you all over again, but this time it'll probably be easier seeing as the country is already in ruins

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I see they haven't really modernized the fleet much

 

[BloodOmen]

Parliament 'intruder' shot with Taser gun by armed police

Wonder if it was May trying to hold on, security is just like "GO AWAY MRS MAY!"

 

[CorNokZ]

I see they haven't really modernized the fleet much

We had a pretty Sweet Fleet around 1800ish until some Britcunts blew it up and bombarded our capital!

The decision has been to go back to the working methods of the vikings, so watch out London, River Thames here we come!

 

[dysfunction]

You won't get past the Thames barrier.

 

[MYstIC G]

View: https://youtu.be/ucJ6RPez06s

 

[Embattle]

View: https://youtu.be/ucJ6RPez06s

That looks very like the thing on the previous page, although I can't blame you for not seeing it considering the waffle factor in this thread.

 

[Bodhi]

Wonder when Corbyn will table a no confidence vote, he has the support of both the SNP and Lib Dems and surprisingly even some Tories, she's done the moment he does it.

Considering the DUP have said they will support the Government in a vote of confidence, and it is unlikely at this stage any Tories would cross the floor (even Soubry has said she wouldn't vote against the Government - impressive that she managed to utter an entire sentence without Loser's Vote in it) there isn't a huge amount of point, as if he loses she is emboldened.

What I'm more wondering is when the incompotent shyster is going to stop angling for power and help get us through this, or maybe even come up with some suggestions? Of course that would mean him admitting that he wants to leave the EU as well, or having a clear strategy and position for what we do next. Neither of those are going to happen, so he will remain and utterly useless Leader of the Opposition.

Teresa May is doing an impossible job terribly - Corbyn is doing an easy job even worse.

 

[Bodhi]

Bet the Irish think this is fine.

Tory MP suggests using possible 'no-deal' food shortages in Ireland to drop the backstop

I dunno, some of the Irish can see that isn't what she said at all.

Eilis O'Hanlon: 'Brits want to starve the Irish' is the definition of fake news'

 

[DaGaffer]

Honestly this is BS, before the free movement of goods all companies had to complete Carnets or Duplicate lists (if the goods were returning) when their goods were going into the EU. The same as they do if it was going to US, Canada or anywhere else in the world. I did that loads of times going into France, Germany and Holland. It's just relearning what we did before and have to do everywhere else.

55% of UK imports by volume (tonnage) into the UK are from the EU, so you've immediately doubled the paperwork burden. But its worse than that because RoW imports tend to come in container sized bills of lading (effectively one order) whereas EU deliveries are down to truck level, so the transaction volume is probably several times higher; for example:

The Irish Revenue Commissioners estimate that 177,000 heavy goods vehicles (HGVs) and 208,000 light vans cross the border between Northern Ireland and Ireland each month

So suddenly we're orders of magnitude higher by volume, and then we get to the small problem that no deal trashes JIT networks all over Europe; the supermarkets, retail in general, food production, car factories, you name it, all have to re-engineer their processes.

 

[Wij]

I dunno, some of the Irish can see that isn't what she said at all.

Eilis O'Hanlon: 'Brits want to starve the Irish' is the definition of fake news'

The reaction was over the top admittedly based on misreporting. She was saying that no deal will hit the Irish economy hard and that was leverage. If you know your history though you should be careful in that area.

 

[Bodhi]

Considering Honda ship engines on a JIT basis from the UK to Japan, that doesn't sound beyond the realms of possibility.

In fact it isn't, as most companies are already looking into just that. From AEO status to simply building additional lead times in, the private sector are already on the case. Considering I know of a couple of companies that can ship goods to the US to arrive next day by 1pm, customs cleared, getting stuff across the Channel or Irish Border shouldn't prove too challenging.

 

[DaGaffer]

Considering Honda ship engines on a JIT basis from the UK to Japan, that doesn't sound beyond the realms of possibility.

In fact it isn't, as most companies are already looking into just that. From AEO status to simply building additional lead times in, the private sector are already on the case. Considering I know of a couple of companies that can ship goods to the US to arrive next day by 1pm, customs cleared, getting stuff across the Channel or Irish Border shouldn't prove too challenging.

All fine, when you're not having to reengineer everything across entire industries in three months.

 

[Wij]

All goods are declared regardless of customs union.
Its done by a computer..7 million declarations equals 1 mins of computer time , its just an add on to the transport paperwork.

Customs isn’t even the biggest problem. If we aren’t part of the single market then we don’t have to produce goods that meet its regulations. If those goods can move freely over the Irish border then Ireland is effectively not in the single market either. It can’t honestly say that everything it tries to export is likely to be compliant with the regulations. The only way it can fix that is to put up border inspections. Therefore if we aren’t following single market rules you leave the Republic with two choices. Lose the benefits of the single market by having to have inspections between it and other SM countries or break the good Friday agreement. The EU won’t let Britain put the Irish in that position.

 

[Wij]

Labours position beautifully explained:


View: https://twitter.com/robfordmancs/status/1072490551415660544

 

[caLLous]

 

[Embattle]

Won't that also risk some of the actual ones taking back their letter?