Politics POLL: Brexit Withdrawal Agreement

If you were an MP would you vote for or against it?

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Jupitus

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Commenting on stuff you don't understand again eh?

Unless your post is sarcastic then I think we are in contradiction, just not officially...
 

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Unless your post is sarcastic then I think we are in contradiction, just not officially...

Yeah but you weren't belittling the plight of 2.7 million people :)
 

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Well we applied back in June, and I'm guessing nothing was veto'd in it during the 3 month consultation period, otherwise you would have posted a link about it by now.
Pretty sure I did :)
 

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No-one's going to "lose 67 billion euros", that's a silly argument. Trade isn't going to stop, it's just going to become more expensive and difficult to administer, and the question is "who can absorb more damage?" And the answer to that is obviously the EU.
of course it will if they impose heavy duties and import license costs, agreed of the absorbing costs though :)

Lets face it, if the EU continue to play silly buggers over every issue that is the more likely outcome. UK Parliament is not (or highly unlikely imo) going to accept the deal as is. It was not what the referendum was about, Keeping the EU legal system etc. It is the exact opposite outcome of what was asked of the electorate. This whole saga has been a bullying exercise by Brussels. Maybe we would be better off in the long run standing up to that and trade with other partners. Monetarily it would be the EU's loss.

Just to be clear I did not vote leave and thought it was a shit idea due to knowing full well that we would end up in this exact situation. Shit untenable deal, completely one sided in the EU's favour.
 

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LOL OXFORD PROFESSOR.

@Job is going to love this one.

Unless the person is a multi-millionaire with financial interests in us leaving the EU, I don't think he'll be listened to by many Brexiteers.
Well naturally, shady business-spivs are more trustworthy than 'experts' :)
 

Job

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Like whatever...

If theyd given leave funding and permission to post out pro leave propaganda to every household, like remain got free off the government.
Id be listening..as it is thry both overspent and no one gives a shit...hes just talking into the wind.
 

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Case & point :D

EVERYONE IS AGAINST BREXIT

E V E R Y O N E

I do find it highly amusing that you accuse everyone of lying and bias yet it's your very campaign which has been proven to be lying.
 

Job

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In his opinion..its likely that...


Can I give evidence please.

Nah judge, I'm a brexiter..didnt affect me....actual evidence.
 

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of course it will if they impose heavy duties and import license costs, agreed of the absorbing costs though :)

Lets face it, if the EU continue to play silly buggers over every issue that is the more likely outcome. UK Parliament is not (or highly unlikely imo) going to accept the deal as is. It was not what the referendum was about, Keeping the EU legal system etc. It is the exact opposite outcome of what was asked of the electorate. This whole saga has been a bullying exercise by Brussels. Maybe we would be better off in the long run standing up to that and trade with other partners. Monetarily it would be the EU's loss.

Just to be clear I did not vote leave and thought it was a shit idea due to knowing full well that we would end up in this exact situation. Shit untenable deal, completely one sided in the EU's favour.

Can you show examples of the EU playing silly buggers, its an argument i am seeing a lot but honestly cant see it. From where im standing the EU has been clear on all the main issues from the beginning with the UK hopping from one stance to another
 

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Can you show examples of the EU playing silly buggers, its an argument i am seeing a lot but honestly cant see it. From where im standing the EU has been clear on all the main issues from the beginning with the UK hopping from one stance to another

I can just imagine the actual negotations.

EU: 'Well, Ireland, we want to keep that border open but it'll mean that we'll have to have freedom of movement and other bits and bobs that come with it'

UK: 'Well, we're not sure what we want'

EU: 'OK then... Shall we just do what we wanted?'

UK: 'Yeah, I suppose so'
 

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LOL, of course they did. Remain out spent Leave by a mile and were also economic with the truth (unless I missed WW3 and the Punishment Budget - Cameron also said they'd implement what we decided, the biggest lie of all).

The words may and estimate are also doing pretty heavy lifting in that article.

The people knew what they were voting for, get on with implementing the result.
 

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What are they thinking..what is the agenda...do they think the entire thing would be stopped by hearsay?


Due process and all , but they are just flogging a dead horse and reinforcing in the publics mind that certain forces will use every trick in the book to undermine inconvenient votes.
Whats the cutoff point?
2 quid over or 2 million?
 

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LOL, of course they did. Remain out spent Leave by a mile and were also economic with the truth (unless I missed WW3 and the Punishment Budget - Cameron also said they'd implement what we decided, the biggest lie of all).

The words may and estimate are also doing pretty heavy lifting in that article.

The people knew what they were voting for, get on with implementing the result.
Then asking them again won’t be a problem will it :)
 

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Leave have had two years of battering the electorate with bullshit doomsday scenarios..I wouldnt be surprised if every single dont knower voted to stay.

They should put dont know on the voting form.
 

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Then asking them again won’t be a problem will it :)

You mean asking them again until you get the right answer? After calling them racist idiots for 3 years?

No can't see a problem there at all.
 

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You mean asking them again until you get the right answer? After calling them racist idiots for 3 years?

No can't see a problem there at all.

I think many people have seen that they're voting with racist idiots who want racist idiot outcomes due to Brexit.
 

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You mean asking them again until you get the right answer? After calling them racist idiots for 3 years?

No can't see a problem there at all.
My point was that if the people knew what they were voting for then a second referendum would produce exactly the same result. If May’s deal or no deal is what they knew they were voting for then you must be confident it would then.
 

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If it was a different question, such as "Do you want May's Deal or No Deal" then sure, let's do it.

Putting answers on a 2nd vote that lost the first time just reeks of trying to get the "right" answer.
 

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If it was a different question, such as "Do you want May's Deal or No Deal" then sure, let's do it.

Putting answers on a 2nd vote that lost the first time just reeks of trying to get the "right" answer.
Mmmkay.

May’s Deal vs Remain. What do you think would win?
 

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