Politics POLL: Brexit Withdrawal Agreement

If you were an MP would you vote for or against it?

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Gwadien

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We should dissolve the courts and parliament and let Farage be dictator.

That's what Job is basically saying.

Fucking moron, read some history.
 

Bodhi

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If anyone is thinking of setting up a business that specialises in high visibility waistcoats, now is probably a good time....
 

Wij

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If anyone is thinking of setting up a business that specialises in high visibility waistcoats, now is probably a good time....
Wait. I thought the prorogation was nothing to do with Brexit.
 

caLLous

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Geoffrey Cox says the "definitive" legal advice he gave to the PM about the suspension of Parliament was supplied to the Supreme Court.

He jokes that he "took a close interest in the case".

He says the advice was given in "good faith" and that the government believed its actions were "lawful and constitutional".

He says he accepts the Supreme Court's ruling and says the issue is "settled" although he stresses that different lawyers took different views on the issue - a reference to the earlier High Court ruling that the suspension was lawful.
The High Court never said the suspension was lawful, did they? They said it wasn't their place to judge whether it was or wasn't.
 

Job

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Now that they've prostituted out the supreme court to get 3 extra days of parliament.


Those fuckers had better well actually turn up...because the usual empty chambers wont look too good.
 

Job

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We should dissolve the courts and parliament and let Farage be dictator.

That's what Job is basically saying.

Fucking moron, read some history.
The opposite of dictator is not 'block everything that isnt the status quo'.
 

Wij

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Now that they've prostituted out the supreme court to get 3 extra days of parliament.


Those fuckers had better well actually turn up...because the usual empty chambers wont look too good.
Looked pretty full to me.
 

caLLous

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Now that they've prostituted out the supreme court to get 3 extra days of parliament.


Those fuckers had better well actually turn up...because the usual empty chambers wont look too good.
I don't know why you're getting so stroppy about it - the prorogation had nothing to do with Brexit, after all.
 

Job

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Its pretty irrelevent now.
The fact that Tony Blairs little project has now seized political power is just quite simply beyond belief.

As I have said if the EU ref has done one thing..its destroying the system as it eats itself.
 

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Its pretty irrelevent now.
The fact that Tony Blairs little project has now seized political power is just quite simply beyond belief.

As I have said if the EU ref has done one thing..its destroying the system as it eats itself.

You've been sucked in by Nigel Farage's bullshit again

You've almost quoted him word for word.
 

Gwadien

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I'm just excited for the time where all the rabid dogs go back to their corner, and we can get back to serious stuff and stop being so scared of being positive.
 

Job

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Why didnt you just go for hitler or devourer of the universe.
 

caLLous

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"If you don't vote for a deal that hasn't even materialised yet, you deserve death threats"
 

Job

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No matter what they do..every dirty trick in the book with the help of mainstream media, the establishment and the big tech companies to twist the the story against brexit and Boris he is still flying high in the polls.
Its fucking hilarious..they would actually be better off supporting him, most people have totally lost faith in the agenda of the big moral and see it as nothing but anti democratic authoritarianism.
 

Job

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Well hes not a criminal is he.

Even the politically motivated, woke power grabbing fucknuts down at that now establishment supporting fucksville central, the supreme court said that.
 

caLLous

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The constitutional position is simple

It is not open to the government, by Order in Council or side letter or a message written on the side of a startled cow, to do a thing which circumvents or frustrates a statute

Public law 101, 1968 case of Padfield

And any attempt at such tomfoolery can and would be quashed by the High Court on the basic Padfield constitutional principle within a couple of days, if not a few hours

Principle so basic it would not need to go to Supreme Court

"What about this to side-step the Benn Act?

  • No, Padfield, constitutional law 101, government cannot frustrate statute
"Side letter to EU?"

  • No, Padfield
"Order in Council?"

  • No, Padfield
"What about..."

  • Still no
"Emergency powers?"

  • No, for even more legal reasons
General purpose tweet

To any piece of the form "Has [x] discovered a way round the Benn Act?"

The initial answer is "No, Padfield"

Only if the piece explains how the 1968 case of Padfield is also sidestepped, then the piece is legally worthless briefed by the legally amateur

The Benn Act is an Act of Parliament

As such, there is nothing a government can do to frustrate or circumvent the Act - side letters, Orders in Council or otherwise

If the Benn Act an impediment, they can only seek to amend or repeal it

And that is through Parliament

And it is impossible to imagine a situation where an "emergency" powers would allow a government to amend the Benn Act as a direct and proportionate way of mitigating an emergency, but even so, that would need to be put before parliament promptly for approval
 

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