Petition about savage growth rate.

[swords]

savage already got nerfed once ,sorry

It seems Savages will need 2-3 hits with the nerfbat to fix you properly...theres a small % chance they will have to hit you 4 times too!
(oh the irony )

 

[Konah]

http://www.snoz.nildram.co.uk/20040210peandhibs.avi

Prydwen, The Twilight Zone!

 

[Fedaykin]

i thougth prydwen albs were indistructable?

 

[Vaas Harkonnen]

i thougth prydwen albs were indistructable?

naah, them r albs.

bi-lal kaifa btw

 

[Vindicator]

A whole lot of BS ....

Do you play the same game as everybody else ?

You mentioned earlier about friars and VW's have self haste. Yes and they use 2h weapons as well and dont swing at cap either. If you hand any clue you would releaise with 1 shield tank in group and now with bodyguard, when they 'Haste' and try to hit the healer the shield tank just says " Hi Der mistar fightor soz you wont hit all day '. DW is King atm. ohh .... and do Friars get Det ? no .... oh. What about VW's ? no again.

RvR is about doing the 'most' about of damage in the quickest amount of time possible. Savages does this the best without a question. They need There Damage looked at, there styles will not be addressed as thats what really makes the SI tank class's kick ass, if only VW's and Reavers had Det. Reavers would nearly as if not as bad as Savage .

So take a hint from everybody else and shut the fuck up because you really make your self seem like you need a lobotomy and STAT!

oh and you probably signed that petition anyway because your so clueless and you heard it was the fotm thing to do anyway.

A Good case of "stupidity will wipe its self from the world" xD

 

[poky]

Do you play the same game as everybody else ?

You mentioned earlier about friars and VW's have self haste. Yes and they use 2h weapons as well and dont swing at cap either. If you hand any clue you would releaise with 1 shield tank in group and now with bodyguard, when they 'Haste' and try to hit the healer the shield tank just says " Hi Der mistar fightor soz you wont hit all day '. DW is King atm. ohh .... and do Friars get Det ? no .... oh. What about VW's ? no again.

RvR is about doing the 'most' about of damage in the quickest amount of time possible. Savages does this the best without a question. They need There Damage looked at, there styles will not be addressed as thats what really makes the SI tank class's kick ass, if only VW's and Reavers had Det. Reavers would nearly as if not as bad as Savage .

So take a hint from everybody else and shut the fuck up because you really make your self seem like you need a lobotomy and STAT!

oh and you probably signed that petition anyway because your so clueless and you heard it was the fotm thing to do anyway.

A Good case of "stupidity will wipe its self from the world" xD

Not sure if yer implying this, but savages does not use DW mechanics, that is cutting defensive abilities in half..

 

[Vindicator]

Not sure if yer implying this, but savages does not use DW mechanics, that is cutting defensive abilities in half..

Well I was more getting at the fact that savages do swing twice / three / four times and doubles quiet regular, you as a savage can give a real break down im sure, so they bypass things like Guard, think of 4 attacks per round if ya like and pbt of course which means nothing in days of /assist.

 

[vintervargen]

i would love to see mid whines if VWs would get det

savages would look like cliff beetles in comparison

 

[Vindicator]

i would love to see mid whines if VWs would get det

savages would look like cliff beetles in comparison

Still the 2h Issue though. Reavers would be bloody powerful with det 2

 

[vintervargen]

its not that, its the DD + insta interrupt + determination that is overpowered

 

[Kalba]

its not that, its the DD + insta interrupt + determination that is overpowered

what about side styles of Valewalkers with 600dmg AE procs?

 

[vintervargen]

Still the 2h Issue though.

its not that, its the DD + insta interrupt + determination that is overpowered

what about side styles of Valewalkers with 600dmg AE procs?

shield... guarding.. blocking.. kikoo ^_^;;

 

[Silverblast]

Guard... has... been... owned... by... Lokien!
Now givf gimp host so I can show you how much time I spend on gimp warriors >>.
And one more thing, lifetap OWNS guard .

 

[Silverblast]

Well I was more getting at the fact that savages do swing twice / three / four times and doubles quiet regular, you as a savage can give a real break down im sure, so they bypass things like Guard, think of 4 attacks per round if ya like and pbt of course which means nothing in days of /assist.

Savages are blocked quite easy, H2H has relativley low WS, 1500 or so afaik.

 

[nol]

1 vs 1 yeah thats true..

But how many savages can wtfpwn 30 albs in less than 10 seconds..

NONE

But then same could be said about all pbae class's tbh ;p just Chanters have it all compaired to the rest. PBAE, Heat DD, Heat Debuff, Stun.. what more could you want for an RvR caster that wouldn`t totally overpower them even more ;p

shitty defense and crap hp means jack in the days of bodyguard.

Owning 30 Albs in 30 seconds is not an indication of how powerfull chanters are, it's an indication of how stupid those particular albs are.

 

[poky]

Well I was more getting at the fact that savages do swing twice / three / four times and doubles quiet regular, you as a savage can give a real break down im sure, so they bypass things like Guard, think of 4 attacks per round if ya like and pbt of course which means nothing in days of /assist.

Ahh yes they sure do, however they are still easily blocked/evaded when doing so, compared to DW chars.

 

[poky]

i would love to see mid whines if VWs would get det

savages would look like cliff beetles in comparison

They sure would, problem with removing det from savs is that unlike other hybrids savages will be absolutaly useless if rooted, since there is no way of derooting or so..

 

[Lejemorder]

They sure would, problem with removing det from savs is that unlike other hybrids savages will be absolutaly useless if rooted, since there is no way of derooting or so..

yea coz a paladin guard very well then rooted, a reaver can get his nice style in when rooted and a friar heals so friking good with 7 rejuv..... NOT
only thanes and VWs can do anything as hybrid when rooted (now grappled).

 

[vintervargen]

They sure would, problem with removing det from savs is that unlike other hybrids savages will be absolutaly useless if rooted, since there is no way of derooting or so..

hmmm hmm hmmmh mmhm castable interruptable taunt shout hmm mhmmmm mhmm

 

[Phixion]

Didn't you just try to hit me between the eyes with the fact that you do have a Savage?

i have a savage, doesnt mean i play it, buh!

 

[poky]

hmmm hmm hmmmh mmhm castable interruptable taunt shout hmm mhmmmm mhmm

That was nerfed a long time ago

They even removed the effect

 

[Aliorm]

LOL, coming from a BM come on please... BM is major FOTM, if more ppl played hib they would all be BMs, u guys hit harder than savages, if anything, nerf you.


Savages are nerfed enough, plus VW's get self haste, so do friars, does that mean they need a nerf too?

If you guys have played a savage post nerf, u will see the self buffs arent worth using, take way too much health, lasts 15s *wow*, savage is basically a light tank where u have to think twice whether to use something u spec upto 40+ for.

Hahahaha!! newbie xDDD


PD: Soru i lov ur avatar :wub:

 

[Zenith]

i have a savage, doesnt mean i play it, buh!

Then dont come here and say that you have experience with it oO

 

[Hamro]

list signed. and you cant make me change my mind with that bullshit about sacrifice hp..i mean WTF i was playing my friends savage we did a bit of farming we could take orange mobs with no dt..evade every hit...FFS

 

[Lythande]

Haha such a strong indicator, try a buffed friar then for leet farming.

Oh and pre-nerf LA growth? Right, when you can show me 300+ style-bonus on lvl50 buffed targets maybe you can show us? Don't expect me to hold my breath tho.

And since you say you want a level playing field, fine, reduce our style-damage. Then increase our weaponskill to tank-skill and give us the same average APR(attacks per round) as BMs/Mercs. This may come as a surprise to the nerf-criers but savages actually have the lowest average APR of all dual-wielding classes in the game.

No? Then don't go crying nerf just because you want to run 4 light-tanks and no shield-tank so you can just press Snow Shower down until something dies.

 

[Healer McHeal]

Haha such a strong indicator, try a buffed friar then for leet farming.

Oh and pre-nerf LA growth? Right, when you can show me 300+ style-bonus on lvl50 buffed targets maybe you can show us? Don't expect me to hold my breath tho.

And since you say you want a level playing field, fine, reduce our style-damage. Then increase our weaponskill to tank-skill and give us the same average APR(attacks per round) as BMs/Mercs. This may come as a surprise to the nerf-criers but savages actually have the lowest average APR of all dual-wielding classes in the game.

No? Then don't go crying nerf just because you want to run 4 light-tanks and no shield-tank so you can just press Snow Shower down until something dies.

why the hell would some one hold down a back style?

also, savages ARE the highest damage dealing chars in game, just because its in your realm dont mean you have to deny the truth.

a savage can kill most of my lvl 50's in about 4 sec if im lucky and they miss a swing, and dont go saying my lvl 50's must have low hp or something, as how do you define over 2k as low?, they hit too hard, too fast, lower there damage output a little, and it will be ok, i dont wanna see savages compleatly fucked, but as it stands, they are too good compaired to bms-mercs, and i have a bm, and id swap TW for the buffs any day, evade/parry boost? giv imo.

 

[Raven]

while savages are very over powered it is their support thas is the true over powered part. Their self buffs while losing HP when used this doesnt matter as its just spread healed back. a solo savage isnt to much of a problem (unbuffed vs unbuffed that is)

 

[Lythande]

Did I say we don't do good damage? No.

2k damage in 4 secs from one savage? Yes it's possible I guess, the chance for it to happen is very small tho. Rougly 60% of the attacks by a savage is single-hits.

Lowering the style-damage _would_ reduce our damage, but so would a decent shield-tank because of our lower weaponskill, if you don't wanna run with one in group that's your choice but don't fucking cry about it then, I've seen healers killed to merc/bm trains just as fast because warrior didn't get guard up in time.

It's good for the ego to have something to blaim when stuff goes wrong tho because surely if things had been fair you would have won because of your superior skills...

 

[BaTDiE]

Take a rest and think you are lossing the time with post like this, if you dont like your class or this game, change it, maybe thats make your life happier.

 

[Alme]

They sure would, problem with removing det from savs is that unlike other hybrids savages will be absolutaly useless if rooted, since there is no way of derooting or so..

lol gg