Petition about savage growth rate.

[rvn]

Same as infils have 9s stun and sbs dont, same as minstrels have stealth/insta stun/ablative chant and skalds dont, if u base your theory on stuff like that matey, there is alot we could say about alb classes.

dmg output on a minstrel isnt close to the rate where they would 2 shot ppl.

and yes alb stealthers are a bit better in stealth war, but this discussion is about savages. And they usually travel in grps, where they are 2500times more lethal than in 1on1

 

[Phixion]

OFC i rolled a savage, who wouldnt? deleted 5 chars on alb, needed a char that would get groups easy, be able to farm cash, maybe get a guild easier. being as i started with not 1c to my name in mid.

Kinda childish comparing how many chars we have each levelled, but anyway, i had 5 on alb, 5 on mid - not like it matters in anyway.

But anyhow, whats makes AD so special? you guys rolled a fotm alb group, not like i give a shit and whine at you tho is it?

 

[rvn]

5chars in midd, and 5 in alb, and still you fail to see that savages are overpowred, you never rvr:ed before?

 

[Phixion]

dmg output on a minstrel isnt close to the rate where they would 2 shot ppl.

and yes alb stealthers are a bit better in stealth war, but this discussion is about savages. And they usually travel in grps, where they are 2500times more lethal than in 1on1

a skald isnt going to 2 shot a minstrel, savages arent anywhere near as overpowered as people are making out. RR run around with 2 BMs and kill my SM almost instantly, am i crying?

 

[rvn]

But anyhow, whats makes AD so special? you guys rolled a fotm alb group, not like i give a shit and whine at you tho is it?

Alb fotm grp from low rr etc isnt at all to be compared with svg fotm grp

 

[rvn]

a skald isnt going to 2 shot a minstrel, savages arent anywhere near as overpowered as people are making out. RR run around with 2 BMs and kill my SM almost instantly, am i crying?

what has skald got to do with this, i stated that a savage could 2shot a minstrel in 1800hps, ie chain etc.

oh and your sm, most light tanks can 2shot casters.

now perhaps in some years when you have gotten some experience you might realise that savages ARE overpowred

 

[Phixion]

Alb fotm grp from low rr etc isnt at all to be compared with svg fotm grp

and my rr3l3 savage is high rr?

 

[Phixion]

what has skald got to do with this, i stated that a savage could 2shot a minstrel in 1800hps, ie chain etc.

oh and your sm, most light tanks can 2shot casters.

now perhaps in some years when you have gotten some experience you might realise that savages ARE overpowred

played since beta matey, got all the experience i need, 1on1 merc vs savage, merc wins thanks to DT, 1on1 bm vs savage, bm probably wins again. Like i say, they arent great in 1on1, assisting they are no better than a group of mercs or Bms

 

[Elahim]

LOL, coming from a BM come on please... BM is major FOTM, if more ppl played hib they would all be BMs, u guys hit harder than savages, if anything, nerf you.


Savages are nerfed enough, plus VW's get self haste, so do friars, does that mean they need a nerf too?

If you guys have played a savage post nerf, u will see the self buffs arent worth using, take way too much health, lasts 15s *wow*, savage is basically a light tank where u have to think twice whether to use something u spec upto 40+ for.

Such bullshit!

 

[bult]

a skald isnt going to 2 shot a minstrel, savages arent anywhere near as overpowered as people are making out. RR run around with 2 BMs and kill my SM almost instantly, am i crying?

You would be crying if it was 2 savages and you WERE crying when you played your sorcerer. Facing both RR and NP/JH/Blizzard its quite obvious what assisttrain does the most damage ;>

 

[Phixion]

You would be crying if it was 2 savages and you WERE crying when you played your sorcerer. Facing both RR and NP/JH/Blizzard its quite obvious what assisttrain does the most damage ;>

I was? last i remember i soloed with my sorc, plus i dont think you are in the position to say what i was thinking as you was never online.

 

[Talivar]

1 on 1 Merc>bm>zerk>savage but in groups even tho 3 bm/merc/zerk assist and 3 savage assist the 3 savages damage output is way higher than the others.Savages have the same damage output as reavers/vw ect i.e uber positionals but they dont lack the normal penalty of det.So really they are uber damageing hybrids who somehow still got det

 

[Phixion]

1 on 1 Merc>bm>zerk>savage but in groups even tho 3 bm/merc/zerk assist and 3 savage assist the 3 savages damage output is way higher than the others.Savages have the same damage output as reavers/vw ect i.e uber positionals but they dont lack the normal penalty of det.So really they are uber damageing hybrids who somehow still got det

aye, but they do lose health when using buffs, and quite alot of it since nerf.

 

[bult]

I was? last i remember i soloed with my sorc, plus i dont think you are in the position to say what i was thinking as you was never online.

Im not saying i knew what you were thinking but i do remember you SAYING things. ok?

 

[Phixion]

Im not saying i knew what you were thinking but i do remember you SAYING things. ok?

Like? if you are going to make a statement like that please back it up with something, you really think i'd moan? a solo sorc being run over by full groups, its not like i wasnt expecting to get steamrolled.

 

[katt!]

omgz 200-250hp every 15sec ;<<<<<< thats like 13dps.

 

[Elahim]

aye, but they do lose health when using buffs, and quite alot of it since nerf.

But they do have 4 seers in the grp, so thats quite heavy healingpower.

 

[bult]

Like? if you are going to make a statement like that please back it up with something, you really think i'd moan? a solo sorc being run over by full groups, its not like i wasnt expecting to get steamrolled.

You didnt solo all the time, i remember grouping with you on several occasions with Tellis or Prejudice, and you did whine alot when you got savaged.

 

[Phixion]

But they do have 4 seers in the grp, so thats quite heavy healingpower.

yeah every savage is lucky enough to have 4 seers in group, 3 healers (1 for cc) usually more than 1 pac spec, and 1 shammy that cant heal to save his or anyone elses life...

 

[katt!]

so savages should be balanced around gimpgroups and players like zerach?

 

[Phixion]

You didnt solo all the time, i remember grouping with you on several occasions with Tellis or Prejudice, and you did whine alot when you got savaged.

Can't say ive ever grouped with tellis or prejudice, i never saw u online enough to group with you, never liked you enough to go out of my way to ask u to group.

Are you talking about pre savage nerf here then? We are talking about post savage nerf.

 

[Elahim]

yeah every savage is lucky enough to have 4 seers in group, 3 healers (1 for cc) usually more than 1 pac spec, and 1 shammy that cant heal to save his or anyone elses life...

Still more than alb grps who can afford 2 clerics at best, a 3rd gimps the grp. You also have 4 rezzers there, not to mention 3 PR.

 

[bult]

Can't say ive ever grouped with tellis or prejudice, i never saw u online enough to group with you, never liked you enough to go out of my way to ask u to group.

Are you talking about pre savage nerf here then? We are talking about post savage nerf.

Ehm i did group with you several times but if you want to deny it then fine.

Of course we are talking about prenerf did you even play alb postnerf? The difference aint that big you know, quads got nerfed but they still have the best styles combined with dps buff and triple hits.

 

[Phixion]

Ehm i did group with you several times but if you want to deny it then fine.

Of course we are talking about prenerf did you even play alb postnerf? The difference aint that big you know, quads got nerfed but they still have the best styles combined with dps buff and triple hits.

don't agree, but if that makes me a monster so be it

 

[katt!]

Can't say ive ever grouped with tellis or prejudice, i never saw u online enough to group with you, never liked you enough to go out of my way to ask u to group.

Are you talking about pre savage nerf here then? We are talking about post savage nerf.

http://www.snoz.nildram.co.uk/20040210peandhibs.avi

proof that even the most gimped players do well with a savage.

 

[Phixion]

http://www.snoz.nildram.co.uk/20040210peandhibs.avi

proof that even the most gimped players do well with a savage.

we all know this game isnt based on skill cmon now

 

[vintervargen]

aye, but they do lose health when using buffs, and quite alot of it since nerf.

dude, rvr is about 1 thing and 1 thing only if you want to be sucessfull.

do much dmg fast

savages loosing hp because of selfbuffs is not a fricking problem, because they are in a group and gets heals.

ask any bm or merc to trade DT/triplewield for savages selfbuffs and see what they say..

 

[cougar]

savage already got nerfed once ,sorry

 

[Belomar]

i play an sm, not a savage

Didn't you just try to hit me between the eyes with the fact that you do have a Savage?

 

[Silverblast]

Didn't you just try to hit me between the eyes with the fact that you do have a Savage?

Hypocrits..