He's not wrong, and of course immigrant workers are harder workers, its like my grandfather used to say - let someone who has never had money or very little work and they'll work their arses off.
Moriath said:more like brassica this time of year .. straws getting a bit leggy getting on for sept. But i agree more eastern euros willing to do the manual jobs than the UK unemployed even if they could make more money than on the dole.
Tom said:Go stand in a strawberry field come picking time. You won't see many English people. They can't be arsed.
How many years ago was that though? Crop picking is a bad example, most young people want to stay at their parents or near friends, travelling away to the arse end of nowhere to pick fruit isn't really an option.
The main point is that you get an English teenager in and they just stand there with a vague look on their face waiting to be told what to do, then they proceed to do it half arsed. The amount of sick days they take because they sleep in is pathetic and yes we have had someone's mum phone in sick for them because they were out on the piss the night before. Yes it's low wage low challenge work but what else does someone with no experience, no qualifications and no work ethic expect?
The same with half of the graduates, they come out with a 2.2 in media studies and expect to walk into a 40k job when in reality they should be aiming for 16k or so and getting their foot in the door at an employer.
Definitely agree with this. When I came out of Uni my first job was working as a chef (again, 4th chef job at the time I think) in Denmark. I wasn't in Denmark to work hard and make a career, I was there to have a good time in a foreign country and the job was just a means of paying for that. I didn't put in 100% every day because I knew it was just making ends meet, this was no way what I would be doing for the rest of life. I am now back in England and have just got my first job at a good company, it's low paid (£17k) but it's a decent place to work and I know if I work hard then the possibility to move up is there so I am motivated to do well.Thing is, I think it was always thus. When I was an apprentice we were routinely called lazy morons by the older men. Doesn't mean we were. When you're 16 you do know nothing, and you have no idea about what a real day's work means. I was only thinking about this the other day; starting work on my first day at 7.30 (before I left school I didn't know 7.30 existed) and finishing at 5.30. I was fucking knackered those first few months, but at least I had a job that was making me think; if I'd had to go straight from school to some unskilled brain-dead job, I'm pretty sure I'd have been pretty half-arsed about it as well.
This is because they've been sold a lie. Those expectations don't come from nowhere. Teachers and parents have chanted the mantra "get an education", "get a degree", "become a professional", and its bullshit. I've said it on here dozens of times, a degree from some jumped up former FE with delusions of grandeur is largely worthless; you have to go to a decent quality university before you have any expectation of a decent career path, and that, in most cases, is more important than the actual subject you take unless you want to be a medic or something. But that's not what young people are being told.
Jamie Oliver rubbing a few people up the wrong way, lots agreeing with him though
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-23860811
You lack stamina then. I spent my early 20s doing 16 hour shifts. I regularly do 12 hour days now and during budgets I can easily clock up 100 hours. Yes during budgets I'm a little tired but nothing that a day off doesn't solve. I agree with Jamie Oliver in this instance.
er. no, i really don't. I do one of the most physically mentally and emotionally demanding jobs on the planet.
er. no, i really don't. I do one of the most physically mentally and emotionally demanding jobs on the planet.
I hardly ever go out on a School night anymore.
Bitchin' about a three day week.. jesus, lets trade.
Depends, we have a guy in the office on a final warning because he can't help going and getting blitzed on two for one on a Thursday night. But I personally will not have more than 1 or 2 pints on a weekday as I cant imagine having the minerals to go to work half cut.I'm assuming this is a bigger deal in British culture?
Doubt You'd want to. When I say a 3 day week, that's just the basic. very often do 1-3 extra days. +a 12.5 hour shift is rarely only 12.5 hours. 13-14 +hours are not uncommon.