Off-topic Mafia #6 Game Thread

[Calo]

My gut is telling me toht or cornokz. Game is getting at the end of it. Everyone is point to eachother. all got their own points.

Would mafia have 2 cop claims? One thing is sure, they can't guess wrong because the doc is already dead so they know that the rest is a townie.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Would mafia have 2 cop claims? One thing is sure, they can't guess wrong because the doc is already dead so they know that the rest is a townie.

Perfect cover really.

ECA says Levin is innocent, if CorNokZ gets hanged, he's still a prime "cop".
CorNokZ claims ECA as mafia, to back up atleast one surviving. And if, as did, CorNokZ wouldn't be hanged, and ECA was instead, CorNokZ would have perfect cop claim.

Calos been more involved then ECA or Vasc were, in a sense that he's actually contributing and saying something. So, as a reason, "calo was quiet and out of light", can't be really used.

I was rather sure that Levin was the other mafia, but when CorNokZ survived the night, it was just silly. Not to mention, that on first night CorNokZ "investigated" a mafia sraight up out of the crowd, and next night he inspected the cleanest guy in town suspicion wise.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Also, another weird thing to think about, why did CorNokZ first inspect Calo to be innocent, and THEN accuse Levin of all people, when i've been his prime suspect all this game?

 

[Iceforge]

My gut is telling me toht or cornokz. Game is getting at the end of it. Everyone is point to eachother. all got their own points.

Would mafia have 2 cop claims? One thing is sure, they can't guess wrong because the doc is already dead so they know that the rest is a townie.

Incorrect! The 50% chance for Doc and 50% chance of Cop is not connected in any way! Meaning there is:

25% chance for pure townies
25% chance for doc+townies
25% chance for cop+townies
25% chance for cop+doc+townies

Ofc you all know now that option 1 and 3 is not right due to Doctor death on night 1, but none of you can know if it is option 2 or 4.

 

[Levin]

Incorrect! The 50% chance for Doc and 50% chance of Cop is not connected in any way! Meaning there is:

25% chance for pure townies
25% chance for doc+townies
25% chance for cop+townies
25% chance for cop+doc+townies

Ofc you all know now that option 1 and 3 is not right due to Doctor death on night 1, but none of you can know if it is option 2 or 4.

I don't think that's what Calo meant. I think he simply meant that "would the mafia really claim the cop role twice (knowing that people will hang one of them)?".

 

[Levin]

Unvote: Cornokz

God I hate this game sometimes. In a good way, that is! I need to read through everything again, nice and slowly, and then go with what I feel.

 

[old.Tohtori]

If i did, i'd end up either A: Voting for Levin or B: Keeping my vote. But after i've read it many times, i just can't shake it that i'm right here.

Nothing more i can say really at this point, unless soeone needs questions answered.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Might be that Levin and ECA are scum and that ECA is trying to make a little plan with saying he's a cop too (he knows he will be lynched so its his last option) and defending his buddy with adding that he investigated him.

Or.. he knows I'm hellbent (as Tohtori said) on getting him, so he claims cop and tries to win me over by saying i'm innocent. Which he of course would know anyway if he's mafia. This really changes nothing - it's a choice between ECA and Cornokz.

This is rather interesting as Levins reasoning wasn't from the most solid place.

Just been going through the thread and i'm so torn now.

Levin said ECA and CorNokZ are baddies, but at the last minute, he's changing vote.

CorNokZ has been hellbent that i'm the bad guy, and on last day, he voted for Levin instead of me(first).

 

[Calo]

This is rather interesting as Levins reasoning wasn't from the most solid place.

Just been going through the thread and i'm so torn now.

Levin said ECA and CorNokZ are baddies, but at the last minute, he's changing vote.

CorNokZ has been hellbent that i'm the bad guy, and on last day, he voted for Levin instead of me(first).

true, but only 1 can be mafia.

I just don't understand why cornokz would investigate me, everyone knew I was innocent, (being quiet doesn't mean you are suspicous, its just that you have nothing to add). So If I was the cop, I would investigate Toht or Levin and get the 3th guy (me then) on my side. But then again, he might be lying and causing confusion among us!!

grrrr! there's just no way to know for sure who to vote.

 

[Calo]

Or maybe levin is it!!!

Damnit a final with a new guy, and 2 oldschoolers who always played great

This is harder then on the mafiascum site and trust me, that are REALLY hard games sometimes!

 

[old.Tohtori]

true, but only 1 can be mafia.

Exactly, and there's more loose ends with CorNokZ then with Levin, as i'm disregarding Levins "pro" status and CorNokZ "new" status

 

[CorNokZ]

I totally missed the point when Calo didn't jump on and got me killed that other night

If I had seen/noticed/opened my eyes, then I would ofc have investigated otherwise, but as Levin said, that fault might have be what will cost us this game

 

[Levin]

Alright, sorry about the long pause (well it is for me!) in posts there. I had to read everything through from the very beginning, because I was seriously beginning to think Tohtori is mafia.

But after reading it all again, the "hard" evidence is still too strong. What speaks mostly for Toht as mafia is his "not-defending" ECA.. but then he dealt the deathblow on him where he could have kept fighting to get Cornokz hung.

What speaks for Cornokz as mafia is a lot of things. What speaks against it is that it was an incredibly ballsy move that he and ECA must have pulled off, and Cornokz is a new guy. But.. since you shouldn't underestimate people just because they are new, I do believe this could be the true scenario.

Sorry for tossing back and forth here, but this time I believe I'll stick with it.

Vote: Cornokz

By the way it's funny how ECA was "away" in Germany and Cornokz was "away" in Amsterdam. Coincidence, or? Probably, but funny nonetheless if they indeed are the mafia team.

 

[Levin]

Or maybe levin is it!!!

Damnit a final with a new guy, and 2 oldschoolers who always played great

This is harder then on the mafiascum site and trust me, that are REALLY hard games sometimes!

Haha, such flattery. Better watch it so we don't explode with ego here. I agree that this has been one of the most fun games so far though!

 

[Levin]

Levin said ECA and CorNokZ are baddies, but at the last minute, he's changing vote.

I know. I admit it's the "damn damn damn I don't want to be fooled by Tohtori" voice that made me unvote Cornokz. Reading everything again helped me stay on target though. I do believe Cornokz is our man, and it would be cute considering how you and I argued back and forth which one of him and ECA was guilty.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I totally missed the point when Calo didn't jump on and got me killed that other night

If I had seen/noticed/opened my eyes, then I would ofc have investigated otherwise, but as Levin said, that fault might have be what will cost us this game

I know i shouldn't judge like this, but hell, i'm worse conspiracy theorist then Joor when it comes to these games.

BUT

that sounds like a mighty fine "Oh no, we lost, i'm such a townie" post. Exactly what i'd do by the way, so no harm/foul there

 

[CorNokZ]

By the way it's funny how ECA was "away" in Germany and Cornokz was "away" in Amsterdam. Coincidence, or? Probably, but funny nonetheless if they indeed are the mafia team.

Do you want pictures from my little trip?

And toht, why don't you just go a head and vote for me then since you are so sure that I'm a mafia guy? I double dare you motherfucker!

I tried to vote out ECA! Nothing rocked my vote.. Even when there was just one more vote needed I stayed stuck to it!

Hi Don toht.. I still think you're the bad guy!

 

[Calo]

Just strange that both scum will claim cop and both will vote on eachother. Might be a smart move but its soo risky.

 

[CorNokZ]

He stated he was a cop all of a sudden, because I told everyone that I was the cop and he was mafia.. With 2 votes already, the only real thing he could do was to claim he was the cop aswell and try to make ppl vote for me instead of him

After Levin cast his vote on ECA, why would I then go out and say "Yeah it's ECA that's the bad guy" and then give him my vote if I was mafia?

I still think that you're so narrowminded if you're voting for me

 

[Levin]

Just strange that both scum will claim cop and both will vote on eachother. Might be a smart move but its soo risky.

Yes.. that, in a nutshell, is the whole reason why i feel so uncertain too. But I don't really see how we are going to get any wiser, really. I feel like it's highly likely that Tohtori is running a master scam here, but... if he has he bloody well deserves the win as it was masterfully done.

 

[CorNokZ]

 

[Levin]

After Levin cast his vote on ECA, why would I then go out and say "Yeah it's ECA that's the bad guy" and then give him my vote?

I still think that you're so narrowminded if you're voting for me

Because we believe you and ECA were being very clever. This whole game is like that.. you have the simple scenario. Then you have the double-step scenario, like with you here, where we believe you have calculated that people would think this is a case of a simple scenario and therefore not suspect you, and if you want to go really nuts you could do a triple-step scenario where... ah, you get the idea.

Basicly there is nothing anyone can do that would make them completely off the suspect list, other than what Calo did: have the ability to win but not take it. Of course he could have done that just to TOY with us, in which case he is just purely evil.

 

[Levin]

Oh and the best defense ever in this game is "I'M NOT THAT CLEVER!!!"

 

[old.Tohtori]

And toht, why don't you just go a head and vote for me then since you are so sure that I'm a mafia guy? I double dare you motherfucker!

Well, first off:

Using words like that, seems even more guilty. getting angry that you can't get an innocent hanged?

Second, i've already voted for you. A while back even.

 

[CorNokZ]

Because we believe you and ECA were being very clever...

Clever how? To vote the other one out? Smart move I c

Well, first off:

Using words like that, seems even more guilty. getting angry that you can't get an innocent hanged?

Not like it's from a movie or anything

ps. I'm not angry.. I'm just frustrated at this point! It's like yelling at a brick wall to move

 

[Levin]

Well, first off:

Using words like that, seems even more guilty. getting angry that you can't get an innocent hanged?

Second, i've already voted for you. A while back even.

Of course it could just be the righteous fury of an innocent. I can relate to that, in a way. Id would be pissed off as hell too if I was wrongly accused. Maybe not use swearwords, but still. I'm feeling horrible right now. I feel like i'm voting on the wrong guy, and yet I can't rationalize voting for Tohtori due to logic. ARGH! Calo, talk to me!

 

[old.Tohtori]

Not like it's from a movie or anything

ps. I'm not angry.. I'm just frustrated at this point! It's like yelling at a brick wall to move

Point stands. I did vote for you, just seems like another grasp to make me seem like i can't vote for you due to...something.

It's a clever move if you don't get yourself hanged, but as it looks like, your plan isn't working and from your posts, it seems like you're getting desperate to think up something.

Ofcourse you would point to me as the bad guy, as your only point is that "he's voting for me".

 

[CorNokZ]

I still think you're the bad guy toht.. You would seem suspecious not to vote for ECA when you said you would vote for whoever had the most votes! When it came down to ECA you had to vote for him, or you would blow your cover!

Therefor you have my vote! You've been trying to frame people throughout the entire game! Getting the final blow on ECA, when he was mafia, made you look like a townie..

 

[Iceforge]

*zzZZzzZZ* Wh-what? no! I am not being lazy! 5 pages without vote count is quite fine!

Vote Count
Day 3

Cornokz - 2 - (Old.Tohtori, Levin)
Old.Tohtori - 1 - (Cornokz)

Not voted: 1 (Calo)

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch

 

[Calo]

Levin, its 100% sure that I'm not a scum because

1. I would have ended this game long time ago, if I was scum it would be the easiest game ever.
2. why would cornokz lyi about me being innocent.


There are 2 options. Cornokz really investigated me (stupid option) and toht is the scum
or Cornokz knew I was innocent and that everyone would believe I'm innocent ( that way he can make sure we believe him to be cop).
Or levin is the scum but then.. He could of ended this game also.
I mean, when I tried to make a fake vote, levin was there to make sure it was bolded. A mafia partner can't be that false to make sure his partner is voted on..

Toht, I know you can be one hell of a mafia guy, that's why I'm getting more and more the sense that you are fooling us all. Sure you made the final vote on ECA but that was after I said "fuck it, I"m gonna vote on ECA so that it makes 3 vs 3 so one of you has to revote and vote the other one out. That was a little trick to see who would change vote suddenly. Just like I tried to fake vote (which normally doesn't count but suddenly does?????)