Off-topic Mafia #6 Game Thread

[old.Tohtori]

Claiming doc, not cop.(correction above)

 

[CorNokZ]

If I had been killed you would instantly had become even more suspecious toht

By not killing me tonight, made me look even more suspecious, removing pretty much all thoughts from someone else

I'm fucking confused atm and there's 50% chance of it being toht and 50% chance of it being Levin.. Don't know who to vote for tho

 

[old.Tohtori]

If I had been killed you would instantly had become even more suspecious toht

By not killing me tonight, made me look even more suspecious, removing pretty much all thoughts from someone else

I'm fucking confused atm and there's 50% chance of it being toht and 50% chance of it being Levin.. Don't know who to vote for tho

That's exactly the beauty of it CorNokZ. I could've easily claimed Levin as mafia, with the "voting for eachother" claim, and with "he was so sure i wouldn't vote for ECA and that's why he kept his vote".

Also the "ECA said i was innocent" thing, would've tipped the scale towards Levin even easier.

And now that i think about it...ECA DID say Levin was innocent

 

[CorNokZ]

And now that i think about it...ECA DID say Levin was innocent

What page/post?

 

[old.Tohtori]

From post 138:

So the dude who was trying to get my lynched on day 1 is now trying to get me lynched by claiming he's the cop? Nice try buddy.

I'M THE COP, I checked levin on night 1 and he's not mafia.

 

[Levin]

That's exactly the beauty of it CorNokZ. I could've easily claimed Levin as mafia, with the "voting for eachother" claim, and with "he was so sure i wouldn't vote for ECA and that's why he kept his vote".

Also the "ECA said i was innocent" thing, would've tipped the scale towards Levin even easier.

And now that i think about it...ECA DID say Levin was innocent

Him saying I was innocent was an attempt to get me off his ass, and it didn't work. The "i was so sure nobody else would vote for ECA" theory sounds rather hollow to me, considering i kept trying to convince everyone to vote ECA right up until he got hung.

Like I said way back after I had just voted ECA and Tohtori asked "why": I wanted to check for reactions, and Tohtori's jump to defend ECA made me very suspicious of him. The discussion that followed somehow just made me more sure I was right on target with ECA and I decided to stay on him no matter what.

Then things happened to make me think Vasconcelos was guilty instead of Tohtori. Then ECA gets hung like I wanted, Vasconcelos dies during night and things suddenly point towards Cornzoks. And now Tohtori tries to somehow make everything that has happened as something I should be the prime suspect for? Come on. If we hypothetically count out Cornokz for a moment and judge from everything that happened previously in this game, the prime suspect must be Tohtori.

In my eyes there are only two possible candidates here. Cornokz or Tohtori. Whoever is the mafia is being a very clever boy.

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With all this said.. Tohtori you have a point that the only thing Cornokz can do right now, if he is indeed mafia, is to confuse the hell out of us and as you say it IS working. He got me to roughly 55/45 between you two now (still suspect him a little more). I liked it better when things were simple.

I think the only thing we can agree on for now is to not let another night pass. Right?

 

[Levin]

Then things happened to make me think Vasconcelos was guilty instead of Tohtori. Then ECA gets hung like I wanted, Vasconcelos dies during night and things suddenly point towards Cornzoks. And now Tohtori tries to somehow make everything that has happened as something I should be the prime suspect for? Come on.

I don't think I've ever quoted myself before but hey, sometime has the be the first. I just realized something as I read through my own words here.

It wouldn't make sense for Tohtori to murder Vasconcelos to put blame on Cornokz, and then suddenly try to shift blame on me (even though I note his vote is still firmly on Cornokz). He would, logically, try to convince Calo and me to vote Cornokz down... and he would concentrate on crushing Cornokz's arguments. Instead his eyes are going back and forth between me and Cornokz. I'm not sure but... that might actually indicate he's not mafia.

Cornokz is acting muchly the same, except in his case it would be more logical from a mafia point of view, considering none of us others have been obviously suspected the way he has.

Does this make any sense at all?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well it does for me ofcourse. I wouldn't start accusing you, when i'm been advocating for a CorNokZ hanging. As i don't know which one is mafia, i have to look at EVERYTHING.

More was looking for reactions on that "ECA voted for levin". As we wen't through that with a fine fine comb previously.

By the way, i still didn't defend ECA, i was attacking CorNokZ

 

[Levin]

By the way, i still didn't defend ECA, i was attacking CorNokZ

We've been through this, hehe. If I don't know if you're mafia or not, it's very easy for me to see your attacking Cornokz as a defense of ECA. But as said.. we've been through this, and I don't think there's any more need to discuss it. I was merely mentioning how I perceived things.

By the way.. mod: what happens if one guy gets two votes and the other two votes gets split? In other words, a 2/1/1 deal?

 

[Levin]

More was looking for reactions on that "ECA voted for levin". As we wen't through that with a fine fine comb previously.

I read through this sentence a couple times, but I... don't understand what you mean here. Please clarify?

 

[old.Tohtori]

I read through this sentence a couple times, but I... don't understand what you mean here. Please clarify?

Bah, meant with that "ECA claimed Levin innocent".

As in, say that, point it out, watch for reactions.

 

[Levin]

Bah, meant with that "ECA claimed Levin innocent".

As in, say that, point it out, watch for reactions.

Ah, gotcha. Thanks!

 

[Levin]

Gah.

I just want this game to be over. We're talking in circles and not really getting anywhere. I'll go with how it felt right after Vasoncelos was murdered. If you really are the cop, Cornokz, I'm sorry! It just seems like the easiest solution that you aren't.

Vote: Cornokz

 

[old.Tohtori]

I just want this game to be over. We're talking in circles and not really getting anywhere.

Exactly what i meant about mafia tactics. It's basic really to confuse people, make 'em vote for everyone, keep a standstill until the only options are either lowered votecounts or novote. And get another kill. Rinse. Repeat.

 

[CorNokZ]

Well I still can't decide between toht and Levin, but with the entire game taking into consideration I must say toht..

Sorry Seel, but that's what my gut is telling me

Vote: old.Tohtori

*crosses fingers for guessing right*

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well I still can't decide between toht and Levin, but with the entire game taking into consideration I must say toht..

Sorry Seel, but that's what my gut is telling me

Vote: old.Tohtori

*crosses fingers for guessing right*

No surprise there, as i voted for you/suspected you the whole game and levin voted like you.

Wouldn't expect anything else really and nothing personal taken.

 

[CorNokZ]

It's nothing personal, and I feel like changing my vote to Levin, because atm it's pretty much 50/50 between the two of you..

ARG!! I feel like voting for you, but so many posts point to Levin..

 

[Levin]

It's nothing personal, and I feel like changing my vote to Levin, because atm it's pretty much 50/50 between the two of you..

ARG!! I feel like voting for you, but so many posts point to Levin..

To be honest.. the simple logic points towards you. The double-step logic points towards both me and Tohtori. Since I know i'm not mafia it's for me a choice of the simple solution or the complicated solution; you or Tohtori. Right now i'm with the simple solution and I wish Calo would vote one way or the other or the third, so we could get this done with.

One funny thing here is that it seems Tohtori and I have a little bit of friendly rivalry going here. After all the discussion back and forth, I think we both would be REALLY pissed off if the other one manages to fool the other. And that's why it's easy to get us to suspect eachother real hard and possible even vote for eachother... just a tad, tad easier than with others. I know I would hate voting Cornokz and then have Tohtori end up being mafia and win the whole thing. And I reckon that is mutual. But i'm sticking with my Cornokz vote for now anyway... and if Tohtori mafia-wins I will just have to crawl under a rock for a while and hide.

 

[CorNokZ]

Start crawling.. I'm sticking to my toht vote, because of the whole ECA thing

 

[old.Tohtori]

Start crawling.. I'm sticking to my toht vote, because of the whole ECA thing

Interested to know "the whole ECA thing"?


I'm in a similar position as Levin here otherwise.

I know who i am, but from you two, CorNokZ is the main so i'm voting that way. And if Levin is the mafia, and this hanging leads to him winning, well can't really say anything except well done.

About me, the thing is i may be good as mafia, but i'm not that good because the whole scenario that would lead me to be mafia, is preposterous really.

 

[CorNokZ]

I see that I'm going to get lynched, and can't see how I can convience anyone to change their votes

Can't see how you can still be voting me, when I was so keen on getting ECA lynched! Makes no sense to me at all, but hey! That's the game, right?

I am indeed the cop and I'd like to apploud the last mafia, may it be toht or Levin, you did a hell of a job

 

[old.Tohtori]

Again, "Interested to know "the whole ECA thing"?".

Doesn't help when you avoid a question and take the "final words" stance. Actually makes it worse.

Everyon here was keen on getting ECA(or you) lynched, and everyone here is responsible for ECAs lynch.

Vasc was the only innocent in that, but that lead died on last night.

 

[CorNokZ]

You weren't keen on getting him lynched! You merely jumped on the wagon and lynched your buddy, to seem innocent later on in the game! You'd much rather have me lynched, but when it was pretty clear that it was game over for ECA you made the final stab and got him killed to seem innocent later on..


This is ofc in my eyes..

Perhabs Levin cast his vote on ECA early on in the game, and didn't pull it to seem suspecious, but what do I know?

 

[Levin]

Cornokz, if you are mafia as we think, I have to say you're doing really well all things considered. For being your first game, you're pretty sharp with the "act". I've never been mafia myself yet, and have no idea if i'd be able to pull it off to be honest. I reckon it's harder than it seems.

Could you explain again why you investigated Calo last night? How did you think?

 

[old.Tohtori]

You weren't keen on getting him lynched! You merely jumped on the wagon and lynched your buddy, to seem innocent later on in the game! You'd much rather have me lynched, but when it was pretty clear that it was game over for ECA you made the final stab and got him killed to seem innocent later on..

This i can answer, if you stop yelling for a moment.

I wasn't voting for ECA, because i suspected you more then him. In hindsight, ECA was evil, but i doubt i would've suspected him anymore. As i said early early on, i said "i will vote for ECA if the general census is towards him", so i did.

I think for the town, not just "my personal view", when casting votes as i still believe the only way to beat mafia is to stand united.

At this moment, there are many fingers pointing each what way, but as Levin said above, the Calo vote is just SO silly that it can't be ignored.

 

[Levin]

the Calo vote is just SO silly that it can't be ignored.

You mean the Calo investigation, right? And I agree.

 

[old.Tohtori]

You mean the Calo investigation, right? And I agree.

Argh...yes. Calo investigation.

I've confused terms like vote, investigate and protect etc all this dang game

 

[Levin]

Argh...yes. Calo investigation.

I've confused terms like vote, investigate and protect etc all this dang game

Hahaha I noticed. I've started making all sorts of little typos too lately that I never used to do before. It's a little scray!

 

[CorNokZ]

Investigating Calo was because he was being too quiet and in the background

Didn't like that, therefor I voted for him. When it showed he was innocent my suspecion came upon toht, but reading up on the thread, I'm split between Levin and toht.. Would perhabs have been wiser to investigate one of the two of you, but then it would perhabs have been the same with suspecion towards Calo

 

[Levin]

Investigating Calo was because he was being too quiet and in the background

Didn't like that, therefor I voted for him. When it showed he was innocent my suspecion came upon toht, but reading up on the thread, I'm split between Levin and toht.. Would perhabs have been wiser to investigate one of the two of you, but then it would perhabs have been the same with suspecion towards Calo

Not really. Calo was beyond suspicion in at least my eyes from the point where he could have killed you by casting the final vote when we had 3-2 in votes between you and ECA and only Calo hadn't voted. Since he didn't, I take that as pretty hard evidence that he isn't mafia.

It's of course possible that you overlooked this when deciding who to investigate.. and if you really are innocent that might be the mistake that cost us the game.