Off-topic Mafia #5 Special Game Thread #2

[Vasconcelos]

Easy bud!

I just voiced my opinion about your reasoning and the logic between being prod'ed and being an alb.... where is the attack?
Am i not allowed to have a different opnion than yours?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Good point kirennia, on the me being blocked as i'm "outed" like a gay stealther in a s&m club.

Unvote: gohan

So...i guess invisible could be a target enough, levin is seemingly just confused, kirennia actually made that good point(unless defending gohan), but Vasconcelos has nothing going "for" him.

So...

Vote: Vasconcelos.

 

[Calo]

Fine, gonna help this game a bit with telling a bit of my role.

I roleblocked the Nightshade this night. last night i blocked the shadowblade, every night i can block one of those 2. That's why i said from the start that there probably is an infil too, i don't know for sure because I can't block him.

I'm not gonna tell you my class because I think that some people can kill by saying a class instead of the person's name. (cause i have to choose a class, not a name to block).

Hope this won't turn against me, but I'm pretty sure i had something to do with having 2 nights without a kill (if shadowblade and nightshade actually do exist, i don't know).

 

[Olgaline]

well,
your right, but the way I see it it makes no sence to be as inactive as invisible has been and not vote if your a mid or hib aka (mafia), sure i can see how being quiet can be productive but inactive is a different matter,

so my reasoning is this : Invisible has been very inactive, thus i highly dout he's mafia, Gohan ahs been targetted for night kill and and survived along with all other albs we must therefor asume he's alb and we must asume that someone is holding his hand óver albion during the nights as it's happend twice in a row now.

so that's why I'm inclined to look els where than the two "invisible and gohan"

 

[Vasconcelos]

so my reasoning is this : Invisible has been very inactive, thus i highly dout he's mafia,

Yes but what if he simply is afk (away from home, busy at job to check forums, pc broken...)?? Hes not quiet, he just simply doesnt post...

Gohan ahs been targetted for night kill and and survived along with all other albs we must therefor asume he's alb and we must asume that someone is holding his hand óver albion during the nights as it's happend twice in a row now.

Calo might have just replied to this: he can roleblock hib/mid nighkillers (stealthers). So if we assume, and by this im not accusing you Toht i want this clear, Toht is a ns/sb he may have targetted Gohan but the effect didnt kick off due to Calo's roleblock.

The combinations are multiple (healer protections or roleblocks)

The weird thing for me is that with a bunch of albs already dead, none died due to night zergs from MID/HIB.... and that means helluva protections/roleblocks or just that maybe they don't work like classic mafias and can't target by nite as a team.....

 

[Olgaline]

that would explain one block not multiple blocks twice in a row,
dont forget we'r dealing with two teams of mafia who cannot cumunicate with each and are on seperate teams

 

[ECA]

What if the nightkills have a cooldown? That would explain some of it?

 

[kirennia]

and whats with the instantaniouse attack from the two of you?

Attack? I didn't attack you at all, I just simply pointed out that being afk for a week doesnt make you an alb...

you dont see the conection between no night kills twice, gohan not being killed and him being alb ?


ofc you wouldnt...

No, I'm sorry but I really don't. You can replace 'gohan' with any name in the comment you just made and it has the exact same impact.

 

[Olgaline]

you cant or you dont want to ?
the fact that toht directly targeted gohan and he survived together with the fact that no one els was killed at all ? for two nights in a row ?

the way I see it, either toht is a an alb who has targeted two albs in a row "who are under night time protection or tohts a mid/hib archer gambling that the alb scout abilities where the same as his and is by now deeply frustrated that he cannot get his night kills through

sorry toht It's just a thoery not an attack, so guys dont go voting toht just yet

and no you cannot replace gohan with any other name, they where not targetted by a stealther during the night.

trust me on this, there is someone protecting albion at night, it's the only logical explanation. and to me "even tho it's my own theory" anyone trying to agressivly discredit this theory, is target to strong suspecion of being mid/hib to me"

I still wont vote for anyone as i see no logic yet as to why i should vote, but I have a feeling this "day" will give us some strong clues as to where to look next, but i can almost garanty that as of yet, invisible and gohan are not the answer,

 

[old.Tohtori]

I'm not worried, as kirennias un-needed death and our class abilities, were proven back when.

I''m just curious on why vasconcelos hasn't even said one word on my vote.

 

[Levin]

Olgaline, first of all did you mean Invisibletank when you said Gohan earlier?

Also Olgaline, your argument falls flat if you consider that some of the mids/hibs probably are nightkill immune and that they probably have roleblockers of their own. Since Tohtori outed himself as a nightkiller scout from early on, it's very easy for them to roleblock him. It could be either gohan himself or him having asked a fellow hib/mid to roleblock Tohtori for him.

Unless you can shoot my argument down here somehow, your aggressiveness towards those who question you is kind of suspicious in my eyes.

 

[Olgaline]

no i ment gohan, I've also talked about invisible tho' I do not know who tohts target was the first time there was no night kill,

secondly mid/hibs imunity has nothing to do with this, it's Albions night imunity I'm talking about. dont you find at all wierd that we now for two nights in a row have had no night kills AT ALL ? remember that the mids and hibs dont co operate they are also fighting each other. so if you for a second discard blocks we should have a minimum of two night kills per night, as we did the first night, yet sundenly we have none, twice, so ok now enter in calo's ability and deduct one kill from mid or hib, this still leaves one kill that should have happened, yet it didnt, and yes your right, we cannot be sure that gohan/invisible arent hib/mid, What i said was that it was unlikely,

also with the scout (toht?) being given night kill abilities and the mid/hibs only being two pr realm I strongly dout they'll have night time imunity unless their abilities co inside with the alb equivilant wich in that case......

on the side note tho' i somehow suspec that I'm faced with a case of being pinned to the wall by 4 realm oponants and most of my group is afk.

 

[Olgaline]

What I'm trying to say with all of this is i dont think zerging gohan or invisible is the right move atm.

 

[Olgaline]

I'm not exactly agressive tho am I ?
I dont mean to be at least, I'm just asking really, but seems I've hit a few nervs wich intrigues me

 

[Levin]

I'm not exactly agressive tho am I ?
I dont mean to be at least, I'm just asking really, but seems I've hit a few nervs wich intrigues me

No, you're not really all that aggressive, at least no more than the rest of us.

Anyhow, i'm all confused about what you were saying earlier then. I thought you were saying it was strange that Tohtori had tried to kill Gohan and that Gohan must be alb since he survived? I was saying that mids/hibs probably have roleblockers of their own, so Gohan surviving really doesn't mean anything.

I do agree that it's strange that no albs are dying during the nights. I have a theory that it's because the bad guys are afk and simply haven't targetted anyone.

(btw I've got a bit of a fevererish flu here so my head might not be working properly)

 

[fl3a]

but if calo blocked one stealther class, who blocked the other?
if he has the ability to block either, that means both assassin classes exist, iceforge cant be playing a joke like that on us

 

[Olgaline]

No, you're not really all that aggressive, at least no more than the rest of us.

Anyhow, i'm all confused about what you were saying earlier then. I thought you were saying it was strange that Tohtori had tried to kill Gohan and that Gohan must be alb since he survived?

well I am saying that, but not exactly that, I'm saying that atm circumstances suggest that he Is most likely alb. So the fact that toht targeted him and that he survived in self is not proof on it's own, BUT combine it with the likyhood of an albion night kill protector, it becomes plausible and therfore reason "at least mine" demands that he's most likely alb and i therefor do not wish to see him hanged.

and as for invisible, his inactivity suggests he "in his" has a "boring alb role"
as he's been preatty inactive all the way through out the game. thats why i have my douts as to his "guilt"

so for now that leaves me with

Rubric - 6 - (Old.Tohtori, Vasconcelos, Calo, Lethul, Levin, Gohan)

as the most likely place to find our 4 none Albs "mids/hibs" now deduct gohan and calo and my hunch well.. nuff said...really

now to other albs dont take this as a sure thing as if I'm wrong here it's just a hunch! and i invite all the "accused to defend them selvs before we go off lynching blindly" but consider this, at least I'm building on a theory instead of blindly picking off randoms...

 

[Olgaline]

likyhood = likelihood

 

[Olgaline]

arg edit rule:

as if I'm wrong here we'll be in bad shape, it's just a hunch

 

[Olgaline]

now I will disclose this!
I'm not going to tell you my ability, or class, but I will tell you this!


It only takes one vote to kill me, yes I said one vote!

 

[gohan]

I R ALB

infact im a sorcerer and all i can do is mezz people which stops them voting? or maybe night action? im not really sure


i mezz toht on the first night but his vote seemed to count ok..... forgot to mezz any1 last time

maybe i blocked your night action on night 1 im really not all that sure


but not to break stride


vote invisibletank

 

[Olgaline]

hmm..

the misc: ECA
has me abit confused, so he didnt "not vote" but his vote was voided ?
blocked ? cant vote due to use of an ability ?

 

[Iceforge]

Zerg count
Zerg 3

Vasconcelos - 1 - (Old.Tohtori)
Invisibletank - 4 - (Vasconcelos, Levin, Kirennia, Gohan)

Not voted yet: 7 (English, Olgaline, Fl3a, Calo, Invisibletank, Lethul, ECA)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to Zerg

Note to players: Think that next time I do a highly themed game with very different roles than usual playing, I will reveal the abilities of various roles before starting or when people die.
For a moment considered doing that here now, but seeing how that would be changing the game in the middle of everything and changing the balance, I decided against it.
Anyway, just saying this to let you guys know that I realise this kind of setup is more frustrating than exciting at times (for some of the players, atleast)

 

[Olgaline]

Gohan if your alb, whats you reason for voting for invisible ?

 

[Olgaline]

reading back tehre seems to be a tendancy for levin and gohan to vote the same and vasc & toht to vote the same altho it's harder to spot, but at the end vote it's clear as day.

might be something might be nothing,

other than that i fond the whole double class theory abit fishy
"so we have two scouts ? two sorcs two mercs ?
all claimed by three of the following who have a tendancy to co-vote ?
fishy!!!

 

[Olgaline]

And remember it only takes one vote to kill me,
any takers that I'll wake up to just that ? a vote on me after this ?

also if you've wondered why I've been so quiet up til now, thats the reason
but one: i wanted to wait abit, two: I started getting abit bored

 

[Levin]

And remember it only takes one vote to kill me

Are you saying if someone votes for you, Iceforge will kill you off and we go into nighttime? Lol, that's some crazy class you must be.

As for your accusations.. I am not sure who you're accusing as you've been talking about a lot of people so far? As for myself, I was hoping it's pretty clear I'm an alb after what happened on the first day.

 

[Olgaline]

I have no idea if we'd go directly into night actually,
tbh I'd taken for granted that we wouldnt, that I'd just turn up dead the next day or some such with an explination refering back to that one vote, Iceforge has never stated any such thing tho so dono where i have that idea from.

 

[Olgaline]

atm I'm not accusing anyone of anything, I'm mearly openly theorizing,

 

[old.Tohtori]

It's....just...too... sweet to try!

Unvote: Vasconcelos
Vote: Olgaline