NTL lag

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F.I.V

Guest
Lagging like a weedy convict dragging a 200lb ball and chain across a raging river, 1Mb connection in Lancashire.

Weird too, cos I was playing yesterday afternoon and all was fine and dandy, yet after talking to Deffy on the phone today it seems the troubles began last night in our area.

<shakes his fist at whoever is causing the problem>
 
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Gerta Ugbash

Guest
/Begins to cry

Just got home from a 14 hour day at work, all I want to do is play and forget about RL for a bit.

Logged in and LD'd in 2 minutes

/Begins to look for things to smash

just downloaded pingplotter, gonna see what I can do with that, then someone gets IT!!
 
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Gerta Ugbash

Guest
Thanks for the advice on pingplotter, handy piece of software.
Managed to get these of it.
Conn%20log.jpg

Conn%20log2.jpg


Guess it is the opentransit routers :(

I've sent an email to thier admin, see if I get a response tomorrow.

Games unplayable as is (LD within 5 minutes every try) so guess it's time to have an early night for once.
 
S

Sharma

Guest
Its not just me then :)

I hit a 30 sec lag point around every 1-2 mins then an LD after about 10mins
 
T

tris-

Guest
Discussion Thread
Response (CS) 04/25/2003 10:48 AM
Hello,

AS yesterday was a patch day, a lot of people were downloading the patch, which has made the game much slower and create a big latency. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours sincerely,
---------------------------------------------
European Dark Age of Camelot Customer Support






did they read the question, i said packetloss not lag :doh:


edit: wow they have made CS better, i replyed after that and they sent another reply within 5 minutes
 
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finbahr

Guest
600k salford haven't been able to play last 3 days now ld 4 times 10 mins each day =give up and play cm4 instead may even hang up doac if continues much longer
:-(
 
H

hardasnails

Guest
Same prob here, Manchester 600k :(

results from trace

=== VisualRoute report on 25-Apr-03 09:54:23 ===
================================================

Report for 193.252.123.24

Analysis: '193.252.123.24' was found in 17 hops (TTL=238). But, problems starting at hop 11 in network "France Telecom Long Distance" are causing IP packets to be dropped.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| Hop | %Loss | IP Address | Node Name | Location | Tzone | ms | Graph | Network |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| 0 | | 192.168.1.10 | XXXXXXXXXX | - | | | | (private use) |
| 1 | | 192.168.1.1 | XXXXXXXXXXX | - | | 0 | x- | (private use) |
| 2 | | 10.13.176.1 | - | ... | | 10 | x | (private use) |
| 3 | | 80.5.164.225 | oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan52-124.inet.ntl.com | Oldham, UK | * | 10 | x | NTL Baguley PoP |
| 4 | | 213.104.242.169 | man-t2core-b-ge-wan62.inet.ntl.com | Manchester, UK | * | 35 | --x------ | NTL Internet - Manchester site |
| 5 | | 62.253.184.61 | man-bb-b-so-210-0.inet.ntl.com | Manchester, UK | * | 10 | x- | NTL Internet |
| 6 | | 213.206.159.245 | - | ?(United Kingdom) | * | 18 | -x | Sprintlink UK |
| 7 | | 213.206.128.56 | sl-bb20-lon-11-0.sprintlink.net | London, UK | * | 11 | x- | Sprintlink UK |
| 8 | | 213.206.129.70 | sl-bb21-par-14-0.sprintlink.net | Paris, France | +01:00 | 21 | x- | Sprintlink UK |
| 9 | | 217.118.224.42 | sl-gw10-par-15-0.sprintlink.net | Paris, France | +01:00 | 21 | x- | Sprintlink FR |
| 10 | | 213.206.131.42 | sle-franc1-1-0.sprintlink.net | - | | 21 | x- | Sprintlink UK |
| 11 | 20 | 193.251.241.169 | P13-0.PASCR2.Pastourelle.opentransit.net | ?--- | | 30 | x- | France Telecom Long Distance |
| 12 | 20 | 193.251.241.97 | P11-0.PASCR1.Pastourelle.opentransit.net | ?--- | | 30 | -x- | France Telecom Long Distance |
| 13 | 20 | 193.251.241.118 | P4-0.BAGCR3.Bagnolet.opentransit.net | Bagnolet, France | +01:00 | 29 | -x- | France Telecom Long Distance |
| 14 | | 193.251.241.145 | P1-0.BAGBB1.Bagnolet.opentransit.net | Bagnolet, France | +01:00 | 26 | x- | France Telecom Long Distance |
| 15 | | 193.251.251.58 | WanadooPortails1.GW.opentransit.net | - | | 21 | x- | France Telecom Long Distance |
| 16 | 10 | 193.252.122.10 | - | ?(France) | +01:00 | 30 | x- | Wanadoo Portails |
| 17 | 60 | 193.252.123.24 | - | ?(France) | +01:00 | 30 | x | Wanadoo Portails |
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Roundtrip time to 193.252.123.24, average = 30ms, min = 30ms, max = 31ms -- 25-Apr-03 09:54:23
 
T

tris-

Guest
suggest you tell rightnow, more info off us the better chance they have to fix it.
 
S

Sharma

Guest
Tracing route to 193.252.123.24 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms 10.141.47.254
2 131 ms 115 ms 32 ms midd-t2cam1-a-ge-wan34-107.inet.ntl.com [213.106
.238.41]
3 582 ms 36 ms 639 ms mid-t2core-a-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com [213.106.237.
33]
4 18 ms 11 ms 36 ms lee-bb-a-so-130-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.89]
5 19 ms 13 ms 41 ms pop-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.238]

6 17 ms 16 ms 15 ms so-3-0-0.cr1.lhr3.uk.mfnx.net [208.185.188.41]
7 21 ms 16 ms 15 ms pos10-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.mfnx.net [208.184.231.173]

8 15 ms 56 ms 14 ms pos5-0.mpr2.lhr1.uk.mfnx.net [208.185.156.14]
9 17 ms 36 ms 16 ms P8-3.LONBB1.London.opentransit.net [193.251.154.
65]
10 41 ms 33 ms 28 ms P13-0.PASCR1.Pastourelle.opentransit.net [193.25
1.154.225]
11 28 ms 462 ms 58 ms P4-0.BAGCR3.Bagnolet.opentransit.net [193.251.24
1.118]
12 28 ms 93 ms 31 ms P1-0.BAGBB1.Bagnolet.opentransit.net [193.251.24
1.145]
13 39 ms 28 ms 26 ms WanadooPortails1.GW.opentransit.net [193.251.251
.58]
14 28 ms * 42 ms 193.252.122.10
15 * 80 ms 32 ms 193.252.123.24

Trace complete.
 
S

Sharma

Guest
Curse MS-DOS formatting, oh well, thats what i got from tracert
 
Q

quinthar

Guest
It must be a northern-ish problem, down in the South (Worthing) have no problems at all.

Also do not ping a router directly becasue some heaviliy used routers simply ignore all ICMP packets..

Get something that can ping or traceroute to a destination IP and then report information back that you can use.

[root@snape root]# traceroute 193.252.123.23
traceroute to 193.252.123.23 (193.252.123.23), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 10.59.112.1 (10.59.112.1) 12.106 ms 9.007 ms 11.451 ms
2 btn-t2cam1-a-ge-wan34-105.inet.ntl.com (80.3.66.21) 29.243 ms 12.074 ms *
3 btn-t2core-a-ge-wan61.inet.ntl.com (80.3.65.5) 10.198 ms 7.238 ms 7.490 ms
4 gfd-bb-a-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com (62.253.188.233) 16.753 ms 9.214 ms *
5 208.185.188.29 (208.185.188.29) 10.806 ms 9.374 ms 15.352 ms
6 P8-3.LONBB1.London.opentransit.net (193.251.154.65) 31.304 ms 10.775 ms *
7 P13-0.PASCR1.Pastourelle.opentransit.net (193.251.154.225) 20.225 ms 23.952 ms 20.757 ms
8 P4-0.BAGCR3.Bagnolet.opentransit.net (193.251.241.118) 25.845 ms 24.284 ms *
9 P1-0.BAGBB1.Bagnolet.opentransit.net (193.251.241.145) 21.020 ms 20.154 ms 19.712 ms
10 WanadooPortails1.GW.opentransit.net (193.251.251.58) 20.208 ms 20.168 ms *
11 193.252.122.10 (193.252.122.10) 20.201 ms 53.135 ms 24.328 ms
12 193.252.123.23 (193.252.123.23) 21.494 ms 21.163 ms 21.265 ms

Mine has been like that for a bit, that was taken 30 secs ago.
 
T

tris-

Guest
the guy at opentransit who has been helping me has confirmed it is NTLs problem. he has emailed them and so have i, if you want to tell them aswell, email -

nmc@ntli.net or
peering@ntli.net
 
D

deluge

Guest
Target Name: patch.camelot-europe.com
IP: 193.252.123.21
Date/Time: 25/04/2003 13:35:18 to 25/04/2003 13:46:10

Hop Sent Err PL% Min Max Avg Host Name / [IP]
1 596 0 0.0 6 33 8 [10.23.48.1]
2 596 0 0.0 6 39 8 oldh-t2cam1-a-v115.inet.ntl.com [80.5.164.61]
3 596 0 0.0 6 181 11 man-t2core-a-ge-wan62.inet.ntl.com [213.104.242.41]
4 596 0 0.0 7 44 9 man-bb-a-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.57]
5 596 0 0.0 7 29 9 man-bb-b-ge-230-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.182]
6 596 0 0.0 14 21 16 [213.206.159.245]
7 596 0 0.0 15 70 17 sl-bb20-lon-11-0.sprintlink.net [213.206.128.56]
8 596 0 0.0 22 57 24 sl-bb21-par-14-0.sprintlink.net [213.206.129.70]
9 596 0 0.0 21 59 23 sl-gw10-par-15-0.sprintlink.net [217.118.224.42]
10 596 0 0.0 21 62 23 sle-franc1-1-0.sprintlink.net [213.206.131.42]
11 596 150 25.2 26 46 28 P13-0.PASCR2.Pastourelle.opentransit.net [193.251.241.169]
12 596 140 23.5 26 35 28 P11-0.PASCR1.Pastourelle.opentransit.net [193.251.241.97]
13 596 157 26.3 26 34 28 P4-0.BAGCR3.Bagnolet.opentransit.net [193.251.241.118]
14 596 0 0.0 22 34 24 P1-0.BAGBB1.Bagnolet.opentransit.net [193.251.241.145]
15 596 0 0.0 22 31 24 WanadooPortails1.GW.opentransit.net [193.251.251.58]
16 596 145 24.3 27 50 29 [193.252.122.10]
17 596 1 0.2 23 68 25 patch.camelot-europe.com [193.252.123.21]

Think it might be the extra hop in opentransit net (P13-0.PASCR2.Pastourelle.opentransit.net [193.251.241.169]) that is the difference between the northern and southern NTL users
 
T

tris-

Guest
opentransit still had no news from NTL so it looks like we r in for another night of shit connection.
 
D

darbey

Guest
Originally posted by n3wbie
Discussion Thread
Response (CS) 04/25/2003 10:48 AM
Hello,

AS yesterday was a patch day, a lot of people were downloading the patch, which has made the game much slower and create a big latency. Sorry for the inconvenience.
Yours sincerely,
---------------------------------------------
European Dark Age of Camelot Customer Support






did they read the question, i said packetloss not lag :doh:


edit: wow they have made CS better, i replyed after that and they sent another reply within 5 minutes
Click to expand...

I got the same crap arse email off them too, followed by a request to send a dxdiag to them . What in the name of Beelzebub and all his hellish instruments of death is a dxdiag got to do with a router problem?

PS Dropkick/Dkick pm me pls
 
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tris-

Guest
dont bother sending them anything more, its now in the hands of opentransit and NTL to sort it out.
 
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darbey

Guest
So damn frustrating i cant get on, just about to ding 50 with my pally, hope they sort it quickly.

Wish id kept that dial up now.
 
O

old.Nikolas

Guest
Living in Guisbrough/Teesside

So Glad I saw this post.

I have the same probelms as described here. Bad lag in waves until final LD. It gets the time until LD seems to speed up over time. :(
 
T

tris-

Guest
weeeeeeee were gonna have shit con all weekend:bazbeer: :bazbeer: :bazbeer:
 
S

Sharma

Guest
Yus, well at least im over my dads this weekend who has a shite com so i wont be on DAoC anyway so hurrah :bazbeer:
 
A

acei

Guest
I just phoned NTL again they're directly saying this is a problem with Opentransit NOT NTL the reason that it's only effecting NTL users they say is because of the way the NTL signal is being received by Opentransit and it's losing packets at opentransit because of the way they're receiving the data.
 
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tris-

Guest
Originally posted by acei
I just phoned NTL again they're directly saying this is a problem with Opentransit NOT NTL the reason that it's only effecting NTL users they say is because of the way the NTL signal is being received by Opentransit and it's losing packets at opentransit because of the way they're receiving the data.
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or they could just be talking bollocks as usual :great: only reason they say its not their fault is because they dont support games
 
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acei

Guest
Originally posted by n3wbie
or they could just be talking bollocks as usual :great: only reason they say its not their fault is because they dont support games
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Actually the woman did sound to know what she was talking about... makes a change for NTL :) Either way i've email Opentransit with 3 tracert's that both directly show their routers cocking up.
 
T

tris-

Guest
Originally posted by acei
Actually the woman did sound to know what she was talking about... makes a change for NTL :) Either way i've email Opentransit with 3 tracert's that both directly show their routers cocking up.
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ive had 2 different people from opentransit pinging me to test where it is going wrong, they both said its in NTLs network, plus at NTL they dont know shit, they input what you tell them into some program and they tell you what the computer says, same as just about every help desk, where as the people at opentransit who you email are actual engineers. ntl are just plain shit :great:
 
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darbey

Guest
This is going to be a nightmare sorting this out as noone wants to take responsibility for this mess. We paying NTL to manage our network connections and they are still indirectly responsible for sorting this out. This whole carry on is really getting on my nerves now.
 
T

tris-

Guest
well this also happend last year and i had to sort it out but at least someone took the blame and fixed it.

and since its friday night we probably wont hear anything till monday or tuesday.
 
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darbey

Guest
Have you tried this afternoon? Still same? I cant even get on the server as it wont get past the patching stage.

Wonder if Kemor has any suggestions?
 
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