NS questions..

[Stalkz]

Well ive decided to dust my NS off and TOA him up, after doing it for my Ranger and enjoying the results ive decided to do the same with my NS.

Also im going to change his spec slightly, currently its :

50 Pierce
30 CD
22 CS
35 Stealth
35 Env

Im considering the following spec...

50 Pierce (what can i say, i like the WS and Diamondback chain)
34 CD
39 CS
34 Stealth
rest in Envenom....

The reasoning behind this is NF and the RA changes, Venom becoming all but useless, the NS free RA is like a type of purge and also Purge RA changes make me feel Envenom wont be as popular as it was before, and im also intending to spec Purge3.

Now for weapons, i havent tried out Legendary weapons except the Sun Belt piercers on my Ranger but only for PVE, my Ranger has Lvl10 Traitors + Lvl10 Golden Spear combo and im more than impressed by the dps, and the traitors proc can be a lifesaver if multiples go off, plus GS debuffs its own dmg type.

Any NS out there used both Golden Spear and Leggies?? if so mind telling me which you feel is the better from your personal experience? as i said ive got the GS / Traitors combo on my Ranger and personally i love it, but ive not tried Leggies...

Now for a Template, i wanted to keep it fairly simple, Only Artifacts i want to use are Golden Spear, Traitors (left Hand, yeah low dps but the proc / effect is nice) and Shades of Mist... nothing else... I really dont want a template filled with the harder to get TOA ML Drops, mainly Quested stuff and the odd ML Drop / Arti mob drop if possible.

Looking forward to hearing views, pls dont flame tho

 

[legar]

add shades of mist imo.

with GS/traitors and maybe GSV its a very nice artifact combo.

SoM is a lifesaver like traitors as well.

 

[legar]

like i said in /gu a lot to people who couldnt ba to lvl their artis.

better take 2 weeks off to lvl the damn things and get your SCing done..
you will have fun on it till catacombs come out.


so dont settle for half imo.

get what you can to enhance your gameplay to the max

and yeah... i spent weeks lvling artis.. but the fun they gave me in rvr was well worth it. :worthy:

 

[Aeicaan]

Only Artifacts i want to use are Golden Spear, Traitors (left Hand, yeah low dps but the proc / effect is nice) and Shades of Mist... nothing else...

 

[Ivynoxia]

I have rather complex template that allows me to use GS+Traitor or heat/cold leg weaps, and i switch between all 3 depending on what i fight, bit like rangers choosing their arrows.

Heat for assasins and friars,
Cold for alb plate tank classes and mid studdeds,
Pierce for chain classes and alb scouts.

However I found that heat/cold weapons gave much better damage in most of my fights, maybe because they debuff for more. (17% leg wep compared to 7-8% from GS), or that not everyone have their heat/cold resists capped ....yet.

The hardest part is to judge (correctly ) what armour they're wearing as i begin my approach and switch my weapons to give max damage. Atm that's my main way of boosting my dmg as I have 0% melee dmg and only 4% style dmg in my template because i went all defensive in my toa sc template and RA selection, put in +100 con and +400 hits i'm one tough luri with 2200 and ap3.

 

[Ivynoxia]

I dont like the low envenom, i think you should still try to aim for the highest str/con debuff. Even if they purge3 your debuff, if you have ML3 spymaster, you get Enduring Poison, and that gives a high chance of the poison staying on the blade up to the 3rd/4th hit, so you will be landing it again and again. If you see they purged and enduring poison has worn off, you can still use a pre-envenomed crafted weapon with same stats to reapply.

-118str/con win fights

at least make sure u get the 2nd highest debuff -91str/con

 

[Stalkz]

Aye the alternative was to leave my Spec as it is, i dont use CS styles currently, but the change to 39 CS was so i had the option if need be.

I really dont want to level another GSV, i have one on my Ranger thats lvl7, along with a lvl10 Belt of Sun, lvl5 Fools Bow, lvl5 Sharkskin gloves, and lvl1 Ring of Dances, Lvl1 Braggarts Bow, both which will never leave my vault more than likely

Levelling Artis isnt an issue for me, i dont mind it at all, but as i stated i only want to use 3 Artis, GS / Traitors and SoM

Just need to find a good Template now that will fit those 3 Artis, im considering also not bothering capping CS in the template, hopefully that will make it easier to make a decent template.

Thx for the input thus far guys

 

[Stalkz]

Ok heres what ive knocked up so far, nothing thats not easily obtainable, and using Shades of Mist, Golden Spear and Traitors Dagger...

Config Report

Stats

Str: 80 Int: 0 Hits: 196
Con: 74 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 81 Cha: 0
Qui: 50 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 36 Energy: 30 (5) Crush: 31 (5)
Cold: 25 Matter: 25 Thrust: 26
Heat: 25 Spirit: 27 Slash: 24

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Skills
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11 Stealth

11 Celtic Dual

11 Piercing

4 Envenom

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Focus
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Cap Increases

5 Dex

40 Hits

5 Str

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Other Bonuses
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20 AF Bonus

14 Melee Speed Bonus

6 Style Damage Bonus

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Piece Listing
========================================================

Chest
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Stealth - 99 flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 4 Piercing - 99 flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 60 Hits - 99 precious Blood Essence
Utility: 75.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Celtic Dual - 99 flawed Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 22 Strength - 99 precious Fiery Essence
Gem 3: 19 Constitution - 99 faceted Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 9 Thrust Resist - 99 polished Airy Shielding
Utility: 65.33

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Celtic Dual - 99 rough Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 16 Strength - 99 polished Fiery Essence
Gem 3: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Utility: 62.33

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Piercing - 99 flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 5 Slash Resist - 99 flawed Watery Shielding
Gem 3: 13 Spirit Resist - 99 precious Vapor Shielding
Gem 4: 3 Crush Resist - 99 rough Fiery Shielding
Utility: 62.00

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 3 Piercing - 99 rough Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 13 Quickness - 99 imperfect Airy Essence
Gem 3: 11 Energy Resist - 99 faceted Light Shielding
Gem 4: 9 Matter Resist - 99 polished Earthen Shielding
Utility: 63.67

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 13 Cold Resist - 99 precious Icy Shielding
Gem 2: 7 Heat Resist - 99 imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 3: 10 Quickness - 99 flawed Airy Essence
Gem 4: 5 Energy Resist - 99 flawed Light Shielding
Utility: 56.67

Right Hand
Name: Golden Spear
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 2: 12 Strength
Effect 3: 12 Dexterity
Effect 4: 7 Crush Resist
Effect 5: 7 Slash Resist
Effect 6: 7 Thrust Resist
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 58.00

Left Hand
Name: Traitors Dagger
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 2: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 3: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Paidreans Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Body Resist
Effect 4: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Gem of Twilight
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 16 Dexterity
Effect 2: 52 Hits
Effect 3: 8 Body Resist
Effect 4: 4 Envenom
Effect 5: 2 Style Damage Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 59.67

Belt
Name: Lava Etched Belt
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 44 Hits
Effect 4: 15 Strength
Effect 5: 15 Dexterity
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 55.00

Right Ring
Name: Cenalons Ring of Speed
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 25 Dexterity
Effect 2: 12 Quickness
Effect 3: 12 Constitution
Effect 4: 4 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: 4 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 48.67

Left Ring
Name: Ring of the Seven Souls
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Stealth
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 15 Constitution
Effect 5: 13 Dexterity
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.67

Right Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Please feel free to comment

 

[Ivynoxia]

Cap that slash resist, and get a little bit more quickness to make sure you hit that 250 qui cap.

Do this
Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 11 Cold Resist - 99 faceted Icy Shielding
Gem 2: 7 Heat Resist - 99 imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 3: 16 Quickness - 99 polished Airy Essence
Gem 4: 7 Slash Resist - 99 imperfect Watery Shielding
Utility: 60.67

swapping the energy back into the legs
change
Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Piercing - 99 flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 5 Energy Resist - 99 flawed Light Shielding
Gem 3: 13 Spirit Resist - 99 precious Vapor Shielding
Gem 4: 3 Crush Resist - 99 rough Fiery Shielding
Utility: 62.00

sacrificed 2% cold, your leather is 10% bonus to it anyway

 

[Stalkz]

Cool thx Ivy was trying to squeeze a few extra HP outta it also, but not at the cost of something important..

 

[dohhhh]

Gem of the Twilight
(http://camelot.allakhazam.com/item.html?citem=17295)

Magical Bonuses:
Dexterity: 16 pts
Hits: 52 pts
Body Resist: 8%
Envenom: +4 pts

Item Bonuses:
Style Damage: 2%
- vs Undead, Animal, Humanoid


2% styledmg against mobs.. nice

 

[Stalkz]

You got a better suggestion for Jewel Slot? Cant do Harpy Feather Charm, allready done it on my NS and didnt get lucky enuff for the charm

Also surely the Humanoid on the Style dmg counts vs Other players?

 

[Akai_Kage]

Also surely the Humanoid on the Style dmg counts vs Other players?

Nope, Humanoid dont count vs. other players

 

[Stalkz]

Lol thats the dumbest shite ive ever seen then... mythic suck

 

[cuddled0rf]

Lol thats the dumbest shite ive ever seen then... mythic suck

Ahh seems theres still ppl who havent seen Jackass......yet....

 

[Stalkz]

I have the Jackass DVD, believe me, Mythic are certainly more retarded

Only gotta look at the treatment of Archers in NF to realise that

 

[cuddled0rf]

I have the Jackass DVD, believe me, Mythic are certainly more retarded

Only gotta look at the treatment of Archers in NF to realise that

Hmmm a very valid point, altho i think their inability to find the part in their code which was making ppl unable to block in rvr, until 1½ year after release, shows it much clearer, and makes me feel sorry for GOA having to work with these ppl ;(

 

[Shawr]

I dont like the low envenom, i think you should still try to aim for the highest str/con debuff. Even if they purge3 your debuff, if you have ML3 spymaster, you get Enduring Poison, and that gives a high chance of the poison staying on the blade up to the 3rd/4th hit, so you will be landing it again and again. If you see they purged and enduring poison has worn off, you can still use a pre-envenomed crafted weapon with same stats to reapply.

-118str/con win fights

at least make sure u get the 2nd highest debuff -91str/con

Also, even if they purge your debuff they can't purge back the hps they lost from the con half of it (unless ofcourse you opened with a crit style that hit for more than the con debuff reduced their max hits by, in which case they wouldn't have lost any hps when the con debuff hit ).

 

[Stalkz]

tbh shawr, less gabbing on FH and more loggin in and playing