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old.tuppe
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1 more nerf midgard thread.
go VN and post there.
go VN and post there.
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uma_thurman
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They aren't worthless. Some SBs whine that they never kill infs...that's not true from my screenies. Ok they may need buffs, but to suggest they never kill infs is false.
I've said several times inf > sb.
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inqy
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A few mins ago... (yes I was double teamed at mmg, no big deal really, look at the damage being dealt)
Amusingly my first hit was evaded and I was then stunned for the whole fight (which lasted about 3-5 seconds). This is why I don't use 2hand often, which is funny because thats how I've had to spec.
I was fully buffed, SCed gear etc.
Amusingly my first hit was evaded and I was then stunned for the whole fight (which lasted about 3-5 seconds). This is why I don't use 2hand often, which is funny because thats how I've had to spec.
I was fully buffed, SCed gear etc.
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Melachi-
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The fact that you keep mentioning that
Buffed Shadowblade > unbuffed infiltrator
is confusing everyone. Its bloody obvious! A fully buffed Thane could prolly kill an unbuffed Infiltrator! What on earth a point are you trying to make by saying Buffed SB's > unbuffed Infil ?
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gudrex
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Need to apologize...
Must have been tired when i read it.
thought it said Buffed SB >> Buffed infil
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Hyuga Hinata
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That's a blatant lie and you know it. We all know that Thanes can't kill anything, if they do its due to a bug/glitch in the game.
/sarcasm
Edit: Yay, new page \o/
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Melachi-
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And just to point out some things about those screenies that claim SB's are fine
Marath is using a bugged sword that you can place in Left hand slot and suffer no Left Axe penalty for duel wielding, also he is buffed and you are not. To say Shadowblades are fine because a buffed one beat you while you are unbuffed is pure bullshit. And then in another post say you agree SB's need love confuses the shite outta me
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old.ivan
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Originally posted by Hyuga Hinata
That's a blatant lie and you know it. We all know that Thanes can't kill anything, if they do its due to a bug/glitch in the game.
/sarcasm
Edit: Yay, new page \o/
Yep, so im guessing thats how Divious got rr9
by dieing lots
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Hyuga Hinata
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He cheats :<
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pudzy
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Shutup you fucking fag omg just fuck off your so annoyingly full of bullshit.
Almost any class buffed > any unbuffed class except BD.
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uma_thurman
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Originally posted by Melachi[Mid]
And just to point out some things about those screenies that claim SB's are fine
Marath is using a bugged sword that you can place in Left hand slot and suffer no Left Axe penalty for duel wielding, also he is buffed and you are not. To say Shadowblades are fine because a buffed one beat you while you are unbuffed is pure bullshit. And then in another post say you agree SB's need love confuses the shite outta me
OK no more jokes - I named those files "SBsAreFine" because I was having a joke.
My stance is SBs need a little help.
Hope that clears it up.
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soz--
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imo there should be some general changes , not only classwise that would balance the game more.
End regen, used to be hib only so kinda unfair, now it is different in each realm kinda unfair also, i guess making it chant on everyone would be best, so it does not get interupted on bards 90% of cases and does not eat 8buffslots on shammen, much conc left and no room to giv buffs sucks imo.
determination, it's the main reason why some tanks are not wanted or less wanted in groups atm, either keep it an only main tank ability (warrior,hero,armsman) or give it to every class with differences like value per lvl , max lvl and different cost? (as it is now for main tanks, more expensive on hybrid tanks and cap at det3, avaliable for casters also maybe but till lvl 2 and 10% per lvl or something) just thoughts
resists, casters got low hitpoints sucky armor and get interupts on casts cause of many reasons, so they should hit hard at least when they land a spell, so fix resists somehow keeping pbae balanced tho (lower the DD or something), lowering resists will suck when people zerg tho, cant realy go kill a caster with 10 more next to him nuking you for 5xx
should be some changes on stealthers too i spose but havent played my scout since ages and my minstrel got 1in stealth so i did not realy follow the stealth changes on last patches to have a valid opinion
End regen, used to be hib only so kinda unfair, now it is different in each realm kinda unfair also, i guess making it chant on everyone would be best, so it does not get interupted on bards 90% of cases and does not eat 8buffslots on shammen, much conc left and no room to giv buffs sucks imo.
determination, it's the main reason why some tanks are not wanted or less wanted in groups atm, either keep it an only main tank ability (warrior,hero,armsman) or give it to every class with differences like value per lvl , max lvl and different cost? (as it is now for main tanks, more expensive on hybrid tanks and cap at det3, avaliable for casters also maybe but till lvl 2 and 10% per lvl or something) just thoughts
resists, casters got low hitpoints sucky armor and get interupts on casts cause of many reasons, so they should hit hard at least when they land a spell, so fix resists somehow keeping pbae balanced tho (lower the DD or something), lowering resists will suck when people zerg tho, cant realy go kill a caster with 10 more next to him nuking you for 5xx
should be some changes on stealthers too i spose but havent played my scout since ages and my minstrel got 1in stealth so i did not realy follow the stealth changes on last patches to have a valid opinion
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iceforge
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You say remove the intercepthhingie on Spiritmasters, but still the rest of them is fine (basicly).
My problem here is the fact that Cabalists and Enchanters, being the two other pet-classes (SM counterparts) with Focus Shields and they have AE damage spells in the spec-lines they get Focus shield (Pbaoe for Enchanters and AE-Dot for Cabalists).
Our intercept on pet is real needed for us who have spec'ed Summoning and tbh, as a summ sm, it don't intercept enough.
Might sound alittle "What the fuck do he mean" but needing to do 5-6 nukes to kill an opponenth with some hits and that much it don't intercept atm (or I haven't tried that yet, for sure)
But elseway, looks like fine ideas, but remember to look on counterparts before yell out for a nerf.
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toxx
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just a quick comparison...
Supp SM... pbae, intercepting pet
Chanter... pbae, nuking pet with snare
Ice wizard... pbae
ice wizzies need a specline pet, at 5-15-25-35-45 or something imho
Supp SM... pbae, intercepting pet
Chanter... pbae, nuking pet with snare
Ice wizard... pbae
ice wizzies need a specline pet, at 5-15-25-35-45 or something imho
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Groborthir
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Well, wizard isn't a pet class, so why should he have one?
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AzuratMinimus
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Ice wizards are supposed to be nukers not pet class. Unfortunatly mythic has screwed up the resists so that dd nukers are screwed unless they can debuff their own damage.
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old.ivan
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True but then they emphasise teamplay in RvR. Thats the way i see it anyhow. Want heavy DD ... bring a debuffer along imo
Of course Hibs are a different matter, but then they are allegedly a magical realm
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toxx
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Wizards arnt pet classes no... but as far as all the pbae classes in the game, ice wizards are lacking so much, they arnt used apart from on the occasional keep def / attack, and pve ofc.
Also keep in mind, this is just my humble opinion, which is always changing
Also keep in mind, this is just my humble opinion, which is always changing
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Qte Eth
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well if u compare cc classes, pbt classes, end regen classes,speed classes u will also find out that they are all quite different aswell ,so here pbae classes differ they dont have to be like same for any reason
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toxx
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giving them a pet is just one option yea, but they need something to make them worth while, something defensive maybe, i dunno, im no game dev, just someone with bad ideas
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Xeanor
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pbaoe in cabalist Body Spec
1 spec fixed then
1 spec fixed then
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toxx
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Where does that leave the ice wizard?
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iceforge
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Essence Manipulation (Body Destruction Specialization)
Drain Life 1 5 7 10 14 18 23 28 35 45 70
Lower Attack Speed Shout 2 8 13 19 25 32 39 47
Disease 3
Transfer Health 4 6 9 12 16 21 27 31 36 46
Disease [AE] 15 24 34 44
- From Daoc.Catacombs.com, the current BODY line spec-spells.
PBAOE, no, but I see your point, could use alittle fixing, but no DD or DOT in same line with AE Disease, myabe make your Debuff shout AE-instead? Then that spec could benifith a group more in RvR.
And note, I accually admit you need alittle help and I'm MIDGAARD!
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uma_thurman
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Accepted.
I had an idea today, inspired by my love of xbowing greys
Replace Shadowrun with Shadowstrike: 30 secs ability to attack with throwing knives in stealth and not lose stealth! Ofc normal attacks uncover the SB, but free 30 secs of rangeds attacking would be nice and fun. Thoughts?
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uma_thurman
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Makes him a nasty opponent
Does using a known bugged sword constitute anything dodgy?
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Xeanor
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Lifedrain is a very poor nuke.
Disease is the only good spell there.
Transfer health? LMAO
Lower attack speed shout? only good to interrupt someone, nothing else.
PBAOE would fit in very well.
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Melachi-
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I dont think so, Mythic changed it in 1.62 so that you couldnt wield it in left hand anymore, but if you had it in your left hand during the patch it stayed. (thats what i heard anyway)
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old.Thanatlos
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You can never please anyone..
- Some people like it the way it is now
- Some people want to go back to patch whatever (believe me you don't, there's been a lot of changes you will miss)
- Some people want their class to get abilities that do not fit the class at all just because their class is lacking
- Some people look at all the spell combinations on a class and like to call them overpowered while they're actually lacking
- Some people accept the limitations of their and other classes and try to make the best of it
- Some people just need to stop whining and start really playing
PS: wardens are fine, don't attract any attention to us else they'll figure out how overpowered we are since we're kinda like savages only with pbt/heals/buffs and we don't lose health for our buffs.
And check this out, we don't need ip since we can use heals like this regularly:
- Some people like it the way it is now
- Some people want to go back to patch whatever (believe me you don't, there's been a lot of changes you will miss)
- Some people want their class to get abilities that do not fit the class at all just because their class is lacking
- Some people look at all the spell combinations on a class and like to call them overpowered while they're actually lacking
- Some people accept the limitations of their and other classes and try to make the best of it
- Some people just need to stop whining and start really playing
PS: wardens are fine, don't attract any attention to us else they'll figure out how overpowered we are since we're kinda like savages only with pbt/heals/buffs and we don't lose health for our buffs.
And check this out, we don't need ip since we can use heals like this regularly:
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Qte Eth
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hms like if caba get pbae there theyd get a grp?oO
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Xeanor
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nuking pet, aoe disease, pbaoe, lifedrain, root ? :O
small nearsight too
and access to inconnu
small nearsight too
and access to inconnu