Nerf Sorc mezz

[Marczje]

pet's intercept is a tad overpowered i guess, but who cares in darkageofnukealot ;o

 

[Coccas]

valewalkers are overpowered too! i mean wtf... they can cast a lifetap AND use high damage melee. nerf em now and nerf em hard!

 

[Arnor]

funny enough its SM that has the higest dps spell in the game (if they are higher than 219 spells)

lolplz.com

 

[Lothandar]

No you don't

And why only sorcs FFS, no one remembers that Cabas got same fecking spell. But noooooo only sorcs are targeted!

Sorcs get get-out-jail-free card in nf though versus tanks.


Not that my warrior doesn't get a similar ra which works both vs melee and spell dmg, but I cannot attack at all while it is active

 

[Alme]

Sorcs get get-out-jail-free card in nf though versus tanks.


Not that my warrior doesn't get a similar ra which works both vs melee and spell dmg, but I cannot attack at all while it is active

random retarded MA picks warrior, warrior use gay rr5 ability. SHIT now the MA gotta go kill a mage or a support class instead! insta win for the mids tbh.

 

[Danya]

What about cabbas LT ?
And you know LT get resisted more then normal nukes right?

It does? Can't say I noticed that. Where's your evidence for this?

 

[Flimgoblin]

It does? Can't say I noticed that. Where's your evidence for this?

it does on epic monsters because it's a combo dd....

 

[snopy]

lolz on this post and replys

 

[Gordonax]

Hmmm. How many spots in DF are there were you can get bolt-range LoS?

Or was the sorc actually about ten units away but somehow still got the QC drop on you?

And you're soloing... without purge?

Questions, questions. Always questions

 

[Lumikki]

Yeah... like.. kobolds should be a bit more blue, and all.

<yawn>

 

[Arnor]

it does on epic monsters because it's a combo dd....

yep, and there are endless fields of albs crying themselves to sleep because their lt gets resisted more vs epicmobs...

 

[Dorin]

random retarded MA picks warrior, warrior use gay rr5 ability. SHIT now the MA gotta go kill a mage or a support class instead! insta win for the mids tbh.

spot on smart one!!

 

[Tharion]

It does? Can't say I noticed that. Where's your evidence for this?

Yes thats why Mythic uped the dmg/lvl on sorc/caba baseline LT.
Mythic explained this when it went live.
All I can say I see a big diff in resists compared to ex. a Fire wizz.

 

[Jika]

well .. SM pet is overpowered tho .. and u cant realy complain about sorc mezz range .. caus every good bard will win mezz vs sorc .. if grp rvr ofc ;o
and shouldnt be a big problem for healer .. caus when u run on speed6 into albs and they are running towards u .. insta is win xD

 

[Aussie]

Yep, even Sorc TL agrees.
LT has 5% higher DPS than spec DD.
http://p212.ezboard.com/fdaocsorcererdiscussionfrm14.showMessage?topicID=29.topic

Could you plz show me where that is tested? on the first picture i see that a lifetap nuke is 6,3% higher then expected on the second picture a wiz tests the same to proof the extra % damage does not happen with his baseline nukes.

on none of those screens the lifetap has a higher dps . only if you compare it with a specnuke with the same value. (duh). ontop of that Specline nukes gain more from Acuity, gain more from MoM, gain more from WP and get resisted alot less.
Add the groupresist ontop of that and a sorcer faces ppl with 50% compared to the 26% hibs & mids face.

conclusion : your a whiny little retard who knows shit about maths and should be playing with the lego you got from santa.

 

[Jergiot]

think ur the first person ever to call the overpowered sm pet useless.

grats!

 

[Huntingtons]

i think lt should be lowered to lvl 44/45 or whatever the SI class lt is on ;o

 

[Namefake]

if you compare the SMs with the sorcs, Mind is the most common spec, then you get area mezz and Power regen, so when i complain on the area mezz, they frikking got pom in the same spec line, so stfu whoever thought he was überspecknowzor.

SMs got intercepting pets, woho.. what the feck, does that help u when getting mezzed from a ridiculous bolt range with a radius on 400.

 

[Namefake]

Hi

You posting a picture referring to someone else as a jester, could very well be the new definition of irony in any dictionary.

 

[Ttillub]

Could you plz show me where that is tested? on the first picture i see that a lifetap nuke is 6,3% higher then expected on the second picture a wiz tests the same to proof the extra % damage does not happen with his baseline nukes.

on none of those screens the lifetap has a higher dps . only if you compare it with a specnuke with the same value. (duh). ontop of that Specline nukes gain more from Acuity, gain more from MoM, gain more from WP and get resisted alot less.
Add the groupresist ontop of that and a sorcer faces ppl with 50% compared to the 26% hibs & mids face.

conclusion : your a whiny little retard who knows shit about maths and should be playing with the lego you got from santa.

LOL , I must say I do not know where that was tested.
BUT it was done by Sorc TL and confirmed by Mythic (cba to search the VN thread about it).

So you are saying that Sorc TL is: your a whiny little retard who knows shit about maths and should be playing with the lego you got from santa.

 

[Namefake]

Oh, and i forgot about the speed, amnesia, AOE root, Mezz Dampening(single/group), confusion and DoT. but the class still sux, right?

 

[Tharion]

Oh, and i forgot about the speed, amnesia, AOE root, Mezz Dampening(single/group), confusion and DoT. but the class still sux, right?

No one said it sux.
But its the only *real* CC class alb got and it wears cloth.
Sorcs are balanced (period).

 

[Shrye]

if you compare the SMs with the sorcs, Mind is the most common spec, then you get area mezz and Power regen, so when i complain on the area mezz, they frikking got pom in the same spec line, so stfu whoever thought he was überspecknowzor.

SMs got intercepting pets, woho.. what the feck, does that help u when getting mezzed from a ridiculous bolt range with a radius on 400.

If you can't even somewhat reliably handle a sorc 1v1 - may I suggest you reroll another class suitable for your level of expertise; a BD perhaps?

Sorcs are balanced (period).

Compared to other casters, no they aren't.

 

[Night]

I thought a light eld compared quite well to a sorc? or is this idea wrong?

 

[Namefake]

If you can't even somewhat reliably handle a sorc 1v1 - may I suggest you reroll another class suitable for your level of expertise; a BD perhaps?

As long as im in cast range and they dont succeed with their fekking mezz, then they are easy. But if they start to nuke, ill die in a second. The Sorcerer class are Overpowered, u know it, but since everyone is rerolling to albion, then it isent overpowered, the same with the Savages before.

Just played as a sorc on Gorre to test them. Never seen such lame class.

Sorcs ->

 

[Danya]

Sorcs should win vs a SM if they get jump - AE mez takes out both the SM and the pet from longer range than they can attack back from. It doesn't take many LTs to kill a caster.

I still think LT is a bit over the top - given it has the same delve as base nukes, it should be slower to counter the extra bonus you get from it returning life, not faster. 3.0s would be about right - same as (spec) snare nukes.

 

[Gordonax]

As long as im in cast range and they dont succeed with their fekking mezz, then they are easy. But if they start to nuke, ill die in a second. The Sorcerer class are Overpowered, u know it, but since everyone is rerolling to albion, then it isent overpowered, the same with the Savages before.

Let me ask again, cos maybe you missed it. Where in DF were you that gives a sorc LoS on you and where he's between 1500 and 1750 away from you - ie out of your cast range, but you're within his mezz range?

If it was less than that range, he got the drop on you, and you died. That kind of things happens, and it really doesn't make any difference that he was a sorc. Had it been a chanter, you'd have been equally dead - stun/nuke/nuke/nuke and all that. There's half a dozen classes where, if they get the drop on you like that, you're dead.

As far as I can make out, someone got the drop on you, you got mezzed, and you died. Nothing to make the big whine about.

Oh, and rereading your original post, it appears you got mezzed and then zerged - so it wasn't even like the sorc soloed you or anything! So in other words, the primary mezzing class of a realm mezzed you, and you got steamrollered. Big deal!

 

[Gordonax]

If you can't even somewhat reliably handle a sorc 1v1 - may I suggest you reroll another class suitable for your level of expertise; a BD perhaps?

He wasn't 1vs1. As he put it in the first post: "he made his mezz, and the usual zerg runs over me."

So wtf is this guy whining about? It's not like the "overpowered" lifetap even killed him!

 

[Danya]

Met a solo SM on my ment on gorre last night, I got the drop, he died.

 

[Generation]

Sorcs should win vs a SM if they get jump - AE mez takes out both the SM and the pet from longer range than they can attack back from. It doesn't take many LTs to kill a caster.

I still think LT is a bit over the top - given it has the same delve as base nukes, it should be slower to counter the extra bonus you get from it returning life, not faster. 3.0s would be about right - same as (spec) snare nukes.

A decent level of aug dex (in NF) + 10% toa bonus + BB buffs

3s spells will still be close to 1s cast anyway

Honestly i don't see a huge deal of resists on the lvl50 lifetap, but the old lvl45 spell was pretty bad so i guess Mythic had to do something about it. It does seem a bit much at times though, on average i'd say i nuke for 350-400 in RvR (unless group has resist buffs up) with 44mind/31body spec.

Can't see how you can complain about bolt-range mezz though, how would Mythic justify giving us a 3s castable mezz with the same range as mid/hib insta, it's hard enough winning mezz as it is against a good bard/healer.