Rant Munters

[tris-]

How incredibly sad...

whats sad about it?

 

[soze]

It is a bit wrong to assume because a woman is dressed up and out at a bar she is looking for sex. I know girls who dress up because they like the empowerment and others who are prick teases but they still do not deserve to be leeched.

 

[Sparx]

Prick teasers deserved to be hounded.

Fucking bitches, i'm bitter

 

[Wazzerphuk]

How incredibly sad...

Not really, women are completely closed off to male approaches anywhere in society other than drinking establishments such as pubs and clubs... anywhere else and the majority will consider the person approaching them to be a weird stalker. If women were more receptive to people in normal, day to day situations then men wouldn't feel that the only place they can get a woman is a pub/club.

And anyone expecting a real conversation and flirting at a club is having a laugh. It's pretty hard to do when you have to lean into someone's mouth every time you want to hear them and shout just to make yourself heard. That makes it pretty hard to add the subtle nuances required for successful flirting and conversation.

Plus, if you go to an 80s themed night, you're asking for it. Go to somewhere for the music; not for some generic crap DJ bashing out the same tunes week after week. The audiences at those venues and nights is always much worse than anywhere else. Choose better venues, better music and like a lot of women, get over yourself! A lot of women create these situations themselves, over-exaggerating their 'victim' status and demonising a person they haven't even had the decency to speak to.

 

[Scouse]

Have to say, may sound harsh but

 

[old.Tohtori]

It is a bit wrong to assume because a woman is dressed up and out at a bar she is looking for sex. I know girls who dress up because they like the empowerment and others who are prick teases but they still do not deserve to be leeched.

Not the point.

We're not assuming "she's out to sexor", we're saying "she shouldn't be suprised she gets hounded".

Prick teases on other hand...(shuts up)

Also, i doubt the cae is here, but sometimes these "oiled up stalkers" as in russells case, are all in the womans head. They may be pure as snow, but womens brains have a nice lil tendency to make more out of things.

 

[DaGaffer]

rofl @ de rigeur


/me wonders how many times that words been used in ANY forum in the last 20 years

well played DaGaffer

I do try to raise the tone

*dons smoking jacket*

 

[mycenae]

Having read this thread I few times, I now want to comment. As someone who literally has NEVER been chatted up by ANYONE, ANYWHERE, I spent a lot of my younger years out with friends desperately hoping that any man would approach me. I was horribly aware that all my mates got chatted up non stop and I felt very left out. The only times I have ever been hit on, which was twice, whilst in uni, I was so flattered I leapt on the chance without thinking too much about it and ended up being the victim of a 'snog a dog' competition and having an acid tab dropped in my drink. Thankfully my mates were there to rescue me.

I fully agree that some women dress far too provocatively, and they really shouldn't complain when they get a lot of attention, wanted or otherwise. By the same token, men who are lechy bastards who think they are gods gift shouldn't be surprised when they get a swift knee in the bollocks.

BLOKES - by all means approach a women, but do it with a degree of politeness and if she says she's not interested, then leave her alone.

WOMEN - Don't be a prick tease

Nuff said

 

[Chilly]

Having read this thread I few times, I now want to comment. As someone who literally has NEVER been chatted up by ANYONE, ANYWHERE, I spent a lot of my younger years out with friends desperately hoping that any man would approach me. I was horribly aware that all my mates got chatted up non stop and I felt very left out. The only times I have ever been hit on, which was twice, whilst in uni, I was so flattered I leapt on the chance without thinking too much about it and ended up being the victim of a 'snog a dog' competition and having an acid tab dropped in my drink. Thankfully my mates were there to rescue me.

I fully agree that some women dress far too provocatively, and they really shouldn't complain when they get a lot of attention, wanted or otherwise. By the same token, men who are lechy bastards who think they are gods gift shouldn't be surprised when they get a swift knee in the bollocks.

BLOKES - by all means approach a women, but do it with a degree of politeness and if she says she's not interested, then leave her alone.

WOMEN - Don't be a prick tease

Nuff said

Free drugs tho, cant complain too much

 

[MYstIC G]

Surely women should be able to wear what they like and dance how they like and if men cant control their urges and act appropriately, that is their problem.

Dress like a tramp, attract a tramp tbh...

 

[nath]

and ended up being the victim of a 'snog a dog' competition

Jesus that's fucking charming isn't it.

 

[Himse]

Jesus that's fucking charming isn't it.

Isn't it just!

In Southend i must say, i don't see that many people pull at all!

Few times i've got, wow i love your hair, and a kiss on the cheek, had a bit of a chat, bout it really lol!

 

[leviathane]

And anyone expecting a real conversation and flirting at a club is having a laugh. It's pretty hard to do when you have to lean into someone's mouth every time you want to hear them and shout just to make yourself heard. That makes it pretty hard to add the subtle nuances required for successful flirting and conversation.

Talking in a club is great, opens the chances for more "touching"(not in a dodgy way, you dirty perves) Lean into their ear n stuff and touch on the arm/shoulder, get a pretty solid view if the other person is interested in the way they react/act.

 

[Bahumat]

To be fair, you were putting out signals to him. YOu were naked for a start, and a big sign on your ass saying "Grind this shit up" didn't do you any favours.

Next time you go out, rub your whole body with Vix Vapour Rub and they will leave you alone.

 

[DaGaffer]

Mmmmm, vapour rub.....

 

[leviathane]

what happens if they have a cold, the vix would attract them and clear their bloke noses

 

[Chilly]

bloke noses?! so girl noses dont get blocked?



yes yes I know, fuck off.

 

[leviathane]

well that'd doubly get the blokes attention seeing a job load of women sniffing round another

 

[Dukat]

Fuck sake!

There is no excuse for complete fuckwits who can't take a hint. none.

"Everywhere" might be a potential place to meet someone but that doesnt automaticly mean you can go up to some girl you notice in tesco's and start acting like its singles night.

Just dressing nice at some party does not automaticly invite every male within 10 miles to act like an idiot.

I hate prickteasers as much as anyone, but there's a difference between dressing in a certain way and teasing people. a BIG difference.

I see no reason to make excuses for people who cant see that, they need to be politely told to fuck off and then not-so-politely made to fuck off.

*rages*

 

[mycenae]

yes anth, isn't it just? it was the fact that he came up to me later, and TOLD me that was the only reason he'd come up to me and then told me he'd won!

 

[bob269]

yes anth, isn't it just? it was the fact that he came up to me later, and TOLD me that was the only reason he'd come up to me and then told me he'd won!

You should have simply replied I also won the bet with my friends to snog the biggest loser in the place.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Just dressing nice at some party does not automaticly invite every male within 10 miles to act like an idiot.

I hate prickteasers as much as anyone, but there's a difference between dressing in a certain way and teasing people. a BIG difference.

There's also a difference in dressing "nice" and showing half your assets to the world and shaking your rump like there's no tomorrow.

Nobody here is denying that sleezy men are sleezy, just that, if you dress a certain way, you KNOW you'll attract sleeze.

 

[Dukat]

There's also a difference in dressing "nice" and showing half your assets to the world and shaking your rump like there's no tomorrow.

Nobody here is denying that sleezy men are sleezy, just that, if you dress a certain way, you KNOW you'll attract sleeze.

The thing is, how do you draw a line between "dressing nice" and "showing too much" ?

A lot of it is down to personal preference and where we each see the line as being drawn. Just to confuse matters, certain people do enjoy attracting attention by dressing provocatively.

All of that said, from what Russel said in her original post she did nothing to attact the sort of attention she recieved - it sounds like she actively tried to discouraged it.

Either way - going so far as trying to touch someone when they're clearly not interested is out of order no matter how they are dressed.

 

[russell]

Not really, women are completely closed off to male approaches anywhere in society other than drinking establishments such as pubs and clubs... anywhere else and the majority will consider the person approaching them to be a weird stalker. If women were more receptive to people in normal, day to day situations then men wouldn't feel that the only place they can get a woman is a pub/club.

And anyone expecting a real conversation and flirting at a club is having a laugh. It's pretty hard to do when you have to lean into someone's mouth every time you want to hear them and shout just to make yourself heard. That makes it pretty hard to add the subtle nuances required for successful flirting and conversation.

Plus, if you go to an 80s themed night, you're asking for it. Go to somewhere for the music; not for some generic crap DJ bashing out the same tunes week after week. The audiences at those venues and nights is always much worse than anywhere else. Choose better venues, better music and like a lot of women, get over yourself! A lot of women create these situations themselves, over-exaggerating their 'victim' status and demonising a person they haven't even had the decency to speak to.

I can only speak from my view as a female and I am happy to talk to anyone pretty much at any time in the day.

It was a giant pub with a dance floor, so plenty of places to chat.

We went to the Eighties night to celebrate a friends 40th and take a trip down memory lane. There is a time and a place for 'decent' music venues.

Are you aiming the 'get over yourself' at me? If so, then what exactly do I need to get over?

Not the point.

We're not assuming "she's out to sexor", we're saying "she shouldn't be suprised she gets hounded".

Prick teases on other hand...(shuts up)

Also, i doubt the cae is here, but sometimes these "oiled up stalkers" as in russells case, are all in the womans head. They may be pure as snow, but womens brains have a nice lil tendency to make more out of things.

What a load of crap. What women would make up stuff like that? And why should I expect get hounded?

Having read this thread I few times, I now want to comment. As someone who literally has NEVER been chatted up by ANYONE, ANYWHERE, I spent a lot of my younger years out with friends desperately hoping that any man would approach me. I was horribly aware that all my mates got chatted up non stop and I felt very left out. The only times I have ever been hit on, which was twice, whilst in uni, I was so flattered I leapt on the chance without thinking too much about it and ended up being the victim of a 'snog a dog' competition and having an acid tab dropped in my drink. Thankfully my mates were there to rescue me.

I fully agree that some women dress far too provocatively, and they really shouldn't complain when they get a lot of attention, wanted or otherwise. By the same token, men who are lechy bastards who think they are gods gift shouldn't be surprised when they get a swift knee in the bollocks.

BLOKES - by all means approach a women, but do it with a degree of politeness and if she says she's not interested, then leave her alone.

WOMEN - Don't be a prick tease

Nuff said

Bastards.

Dress like a tramp, attract a tramp tbh...

Since this appears to be a huge issue, I wore a knee length dark denim skirt and a sparkly black top, which believe me, was not low cut in anyway. So what are you saying?

Fuck sake!

There is no excuse for complete fuckwits who can't take a hint. none.

"Everywhere" might be a potential place to meet someone but that doesnt automaticly mean you can go up to some girl you notice in tesco's and start acting like its singles night.

Just dressing nice at some party does not automaticly invite every male within 10 miles to act like an idiot.

I hate prickteasers as much as anyone, but there's a difference between dressing in a certain way and teasing people. a BIG difference.

I see no reason to make excuses for people who cant see that, they need to be politely told to fuck off and then not-so-politely made to fuck off.

*rages*

Thank you

 

[sayward]

Still can't believe these men approach from behind, how come they live to tell the tale. For me it's all in total eye contact. Mr. Sayward once said if he'd met me at a disco he would've never dared come near me.

 

[sayward]

Agree with what Russell is saying, we were just writing at the same time.

 

[Calaen]

I can only speak from my view as a female and I am happy to talk to anyone pretty much at any time in the day.

It was a giant pub with a dance floor so plenty of places to chat.

We went to the eighties night to celibrate a friends 40th and take a trip down memory lane. There is a time and a place for 'decent' music venues.

Are you aimimng the 'get over yourself' at me? If so then what exactly do I need to get over?



What a load of crap. What women would make up stuff like that? And why should I expect get hounded?


Bastards.



Since this appears to be a huge issue, I wore a knee length dark denim skirt and a sparkly black top, which believe me, was not low cut in anyway. So what are you saying?



Thank you

You can pretty much tell if a chick is up for it after a couple of minutes.

I would rarely waste my time on a bird who was making me work to hard (unless of course she was fit as fook with mint tits and red hair)

@ Dukat the problem is that some girls love to give someone the knock back to see if the guy is persistent. Its all part of the game, As Tris said initially dancing up behind someone and making minimal contact with their hips is how it works nowadays. If she backs on your pretty much gonna pull. If she looks back and moves away its time to hit a 180 and grab girl number two. Rejection makes getting the nod all the more sweeter.

Too may lads would rather not get rejected from a girl they like the look of on a night out. Whats the worst thing that can happen? She can say no thats it!! you do not die.

 

[russell]

Can I just clarify that myself and my friends were not dressed 'provocotively' (tho even if we were, this should still not happen)

And my thread was about my shock at the amount of men behaving like letches.

Not normal guys. (I have lots of friends who are men and they dont behave in this way). But guys persistantly trying to touch you up, staring you out and following you round to get close to you, when you have made it clear that you are not interested.

I was merely commenting on the level of their audacity and that I felt hounded. I was not trying to be 'up myself' or derogatory to normal men. FFS

 

[DaGaffer]

Where exactly was this den of oiliness then?

 

[russell]

It wasnt full of 'oilies'. They were the minority.