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Puppetmistress

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Originally posted by Freppe^^
Never, ill repeat, i never did 700dmg with my chanter on debuff dd. Not as i noticed anyway. Tbh, was glad when i reached 500. Thats with a rr7l4 chanter. K.

Did you put the remaining points in Light ? If you did then after debuff you would cap when you're buffed.

With 7L4 even when you went 50 mana 20 light you can get 20+11+6 = 37 modified light-spec, enough to make sure your variance on the baseline-DD is low enough even without a debuff.

I would be pretty surprised if such a chanter would not hit cap on every baseline nuke after a debuff.
 
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old.Lethul

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Originally posted by Freppe^^
Never, ill repeat, i never did 700dmg with my chanter on debuff dd. Not as i noticed anyway. Tbh, was glad when i reached 500. Thats with a rr7l4 chanter. K.

strange, with my brehon i regulary hitted above 500 without relics and no WP
 
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Freppe^^

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Originally posted by Puppetmistress
Did you put the remaining points in Light ? If you did then after debuff you would cap when you're buffed.

With 7L4 even when you went 50 mana 20 light you can get 20+11+6 = 37 modified light-spec, enough to make sure your variance on the baseline-DD is low enough even without a debuff.

I would be pretty surprised if such a chanter would not hit cap on every baseline nuke after a debuff.

Yes i had the rest in light yes. If i had screens i would show ya. 500 was possible yes, but for me it was rare, around 450-480 was how the dmg usually was. But lets say you crit on of those, which i so rarely did aswell, its not like you'll do a 200dmg crit. Never. Anyways, this has more changed to a nerf chanter thread, and since chanters/casters in general allready are shit, and will forever be cus of the shit interupt system and lotsa other shit.
Hibs are the underdogs, in whatever they are doing.(okok soz, sb's are shit, you're the underdogs there!) At least for the time being, tho, hibs has been good in the past, owning everything etc, perhaps its time for some other realm to do that. Tho its silly by ppl even trying to make classes better by saying stuff than they really are.
 
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dawn-

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first mezz in as sorc is no big deal, is something pretty easy.

gp is fucked up, you cant imagine how easy it is to kill a gp down hib grp and how hard it gets after one fucking button is pressed, put in 5hour timer imo.

sos is nice, vs castergrps losses 90% of its worth and comes with 30 min timer. its no big deal really, sosed sorc cant cast sosed cleric cant heal sosed tank cant hit (ok det4 gets to that) sosed paladin cant run end cant hit cant guard

mid ra's are more close to how ra's should be, minor tools that give you moderate leaps in combat, not big fancy shit.

as for bof its all the same to me i die in 2 sec eitherway vs bms or savages, clerics die in 5 secs. its nice too

thats what i think
 
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old.Filip

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Hibs are the underdogs, in whatever they are doing.(okok soz, sb's are shit, you're the underdogs there!) At least for the time being, tho, hibs has been good in the past, owning everything etc, perhaps its time for some other realm to do that. Tho its silly by ppl even trying to make classes better by saying stuff than they really are.

check out this....

Top 100 Rps earners last week in the world (scroll down)

7 out 100 is albs ... tell me the underdog part again ? (btw i KNOW there is more albs but from 7<-33 there is a LONG road)
 
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Gavon

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My debuffed dd dmg is 538 with no ra's affecting it. Crit to 700-800 sometimes..not sumthin that happens every fight tho.
Uff nerf work and gimme time to play more!
 
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Freppe^^

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Originally posted by old.Filip
check out this....

Top 100 Rps earners last week in the world (scroll down)

7 out 100 is albs ... tell me the underdog part again ? (btw i KNOW there is more albs but from 7<-33 there is a LONG road)

FIlip pls. Theres several reasons for that. Underdog has nothing to do with RP's/Week imo. Those ppl on the list may play more, they have a zerg to fight. If you either had a hib zerg to fight and mid zerg, im pretty sure those numbers woulda be verrrrrrry different. Think pls.
 
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bult

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erm fluid an alb group should never use SoS vs a pbae group :O
it is sooooooooooo much worse then vs tanks. sure it can be usefull but its not worth using vs them. neither is BoF. VS pbae i would take PR any day! of course overall BoF is better tho.
 
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Karnat

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Freppe... imo except for hibbies farming in room zergs r just sucky rps. So u will have to do better than that...
 
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old.Filip

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FIlip pls. Theres several reasons for that. Underdog has nothing to do with RP's/Week imo. Those ppl on the list may play more, they have a zerg to fight. If you either had a hib zerg to fight and mid zerg, im pretty sure those numbers woulda be verrrrrrry different. Think pls.


Yes albs got more pop (42,5%)..

hibs and mids devide's the rest allmost equally... 27-28%

which means albs got 57% of the server pop to kill

where as the hibs and mids got 70%...

13% more than albs ........

and i think there would be the same amounth of die hard gamers over all in the realms..

but if you dont consider 7 out of 100 a strange number fine with me...
 
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excs

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Originally posted by hotrat


If you think noretn played badly in that video you need to watch it a few more times imo, I have yet to meet a cleric who plays better than noretn. The BoF was probably because norry thought it was a fg of mids, not just 3, not like we need BoF vs vgn anyway and not many other enemies out at 4am in the morning

Well watch the video again Hot and see the 1.30 min disease, I rest my case.

Sry for the late reply .. Im bored atm :p
 
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noret

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Originally posted by excs
Well watch the video again Hot and see the 1.30 min disease, I rest my case.

Sry for the late reply .. Im bored atm :p
True thats one mistake and dead reaver is another. But i don't see what it would change and if i remember that fight i couldn't cast much anyway so heals are better than cure disease, could have purged of course. Also i didn't use mcl somewhere when i could, thats another mistake.

Anyway that was one of fun fights (to play) with about equal groups, we lost ~50%.

edit: oh and about bof. That RA was up for 2-3 hours, there was no mids at all so after some thinking (group not in best condition) i thought why not? How do i know they decide to go for a pally then another tank.
 
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-Freezingwiz-

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Originally posted by Freppe^^
And how many times have they won against you? You're counting one win against em, while they have 10000 against you. Sure, we did beat NP's fotm grp pre 1.62 with 7 players. Luck, yes. Ppl play bad from time to time, even them? Yes. Just bragging from your part imo, wonder how it would be if they would brag on every fg grp they pwned. Gjeez, whole forum would be full.

like u do with alb/pryd :doh:
 
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ab_fluid

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Originally posted by noret
True thats one mistake and dead reaver is another. But i don't see what it would change and if i remember that fight i couldn't cast much anyway so heals are better than cure disease, could have purged of course. Also i didn't use mcl somewhere when i could, thats another mistake.

Anyway that was one of fun fights (to play) with about equal groups, we lost ~50%.

edit: oh and about bof. That RA was up for 2-3 hours, there was no mids at all so after some thinking (group not in best condition) i thought why not? How do i know they decide to go for a pally then another tank.

50% !??!?! but i thought albs can't compete?!?!?!?!!
 
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Asha

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Originally posted by noret
True thats one mistake and dead reaver is another.


dead reaver !!! :( :( :(

it was mostly my fault I was dead and noret rox :)
 
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wyleia

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the link to the movie didnt work when i tried to download it.. i was in the vgn grp that nite and would have liked to see it.. am i doing something wrong or is there another host for it if someone could host it that downloaded it? :)
 
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Lessurl

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Originally posted by excs
Well watch the video again Hot and see the 1.30 min disease, I rest my case.

Sry for the late reply .. Im bored atm :p

I would suggest you watch the video again. When he gets diseased first three people in the group are dropping fast and close to death, stopping to cure his disease then instead of healing would have resulted in 3 deaths instead of only one imo. Then once that was over and a chance was free to cure himself Lafe ( i think it was) attacks him, so now it's not even a choice he just can't. Then the bard joins in with lull etc. and i personally thought he did a good job of interupting those 2. Then he's oom so can't cure dis and by the time he gets mcl fired off (in combat timer etc.) the nature druids pet is on him, then the disease is starting to leave by itself anyway. Please enlighten us as to where in that frantic series of events you would have found the time to cure disease?

Anyway, I enjoyed that video, it was nice to be able to watch a fight from the point of view of my alb counterpart (I usually play my reg druid atm). I personally thought Noretn did a great job as the cleric, though my play style is more like the other cleric in the grp (didn't see his name) who hid behind a tree at the start. I always wonder why people feel the need when watching these videos to pick apart the performance of the person doing the filming, occasionally getting offensive. I bet in the majority of cases the person in the film played better than the person doing the criticising does on a day to day basis. If I'm wrong then make a video yourself showing everyone how the class should be played instead of flaming others for the way they play their character.

Only thing i could say against the video is that it could do with some music. :p
 
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noret

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Originally posted by Lessurl
my play style is more like the other cleric in the grp (didn't see his name) who hid behind a tree at the start.
Other cleric was Glaudien and i wasn't behind that tree coz i always get granny aggro there and MoC is nearly useless with orange+ mob on me.

btw what do i need to kill to make grannys happy?
 
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fl-gorre

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Originally posted by noret
Other cleric was Glaudien and i wasn't behind that tree coz i always get granny aggro there and MoC is nearly useless with orange+ mob on me.
aye that was me, took a lill risk hiding there, but the grannie spanws seemt at save distance when i checked if it was save to hide there,
did have many other options cuz otherwise i was sure to get petted sooner or later in open field
had to leave the spot thoo cuz a bard and keen added later on (not 100%sure bout this, been a while ;) )

and i dotn think you can make those lill buggers neutral norry im afraid :/
 
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Arnor

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Originally posted by bult
erm fluid an alb group should never use SoS vs a pbae group :O
it is sooooooooooo much worse then vs tanks. sure it can be usefull but its not worth using vs them. neither is BoF. VS pbae i would take PR any day! of course overall BoF is better tho.


and cheaper!
 

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