Mids Defending Keeps

[bellum]

Originally posted by sorusi
ill uppload some necro cheater screen shots on my site later tonight i guess.. think i got 10 - 15 of them or something.. ;p

gotta screen shot them more, its not like its a "rare" event, allmost every necro does abuse at keeps etc.. and most of them are lame fuckers too

We are using the tools Mythic gave us, do you think we would stop using it because you dont like it, rethink that.
And us I understand it every Zerker thats hitting are abusing a bug aswell atm and will be fixed in 1.62. Cant say they can be compared really but still a bug that zerkers are using.
And with your other talk about diffrent drivers and cars.
I can agree to that, but it helps ALOT if you have the better class. Its alot easier to play good with a better class then a worse class.
Next patch fixes some of the unfair sick issues.

 

[noaim]

Originally posted by smokee_hb
Whats up with mids whining about necro los ? they`ve sent their bugged spiritmaster pets through keep doors / walls since the very start. So have hibs with chanter pets.
Now albion have a los bugged class and you all start crying.
Wake up and reallise you got owned.
You just have to live with it.
Albs > mids :swords:

You genious!!!

Did you know that when you gets attacked as an SM, your pet automaticlly runs for the attacker? The same thing goes for chanter-pets. However, I doubt the necro pet starts nuking the shit out of people in the middle of a keep for no reason.

And you even comparing the pets makes me wonder what game you are playing.

 

[sorusi]

you can do things against a zerker in the battlefield, you cant do shit against a necro when hes nukeing you with xray thru the walls..


and yes, albs have it harder to play and make balanced grps, but it has also to do with all the ignorant ppl killing the needed class (like sorcs)

 

[bult]

this was so obviously the biggest flamebait ever, why fall for it?

 

[brommix]

hahaha that is so true....gotta be biggest flamebait ever ....and noaim, just to correct you, chanter caster pets usually stay outside, and what killed you was the lag not the necroes, if there were no lagg the necroes couldnt target you, so in the end blame your own zerg for causing the lagg . What necroes do is no different than a shaman or cabalist or mentalist who give a good dose of AE poisen on someone lagging out, only difference is there were 20 necroes and only 2 cabbies there, I understand the frustration but hey playing albion for all this time, as I have, I think we deserve our place in the sun for abit, necro "bugabuse" is way LESS bugabuse than the double mezzing from healers and bards, nothing worse than getting mezzed 2 or 3times within the same minute and that has been going on for ages, so why dont ya just chill and suck it up and be a man about it.

 

[katt!]

somewhere in amsterdam, aussie is laughing his ass off.

 

[skile]

Originally posted by noaim
Correction: They will be shit.

Well, without cheating, they are shit aswell, but as long as they can cheat with em, they are far from shit.

Even the most shitty player becomes somewhat lethal using wallhack you know.

Shitty player? It's all about SC+Buffbots+What class u have. It's very hard to judge skill in DAoC .

 

[Rushie]

me thinks noaim has noaim other than to argue till he blue in the face.

u were owned, get over it.

oh and if u wanna call it cheating, what about all the zerkers abusing the LA/end bug, both have been addressed by mythic and will be fixed soon, its not cheating and it will be gone soon so get over it.

 

[noaim]

Originally posted by brommix
hahaha that is so true....gotta be biggest flamebait ever ....and noaim, just to correct you, chanter caster pets usually stay outside, and what killed you was the lag not the necroes, if there were no lagg the necroes couldnt target you, so in the end blame your own zerg for causing the lagg . What necroes do is no different than a shaman or cabalist or mentalist who give a good dose of AE poisen on someone lagging out, only difference is there were 20 necroes and only 2 cabbies there, I understand the frustration but hey playing albion for all this time, as I have, I think we deserve our place in the sun for abit, necro "bugabuse" is way LESS bugabuse than the double mezzing from healers and bards, nothing worse than getting mezzed 2 or 3times within the same minute and that has been going on for ages, so why dont ya just chill and suck it up and be a man about it.

You dont die from being targetted, at least not in the game I am talking about.

I targetted alot of albs who lagged inside the keep but they didnt die, and I couldnt cast my hammers on em or slam em or anything.

Chanterpets nukes when the chanter gets hit, they dont nuke like a mage, and as I said before, dont even compare em, they are not even close to the same, get that.

You cant ask for the chanter to make sure his pet isnt nuking someone all the time. I am sure some of em do it on purpose, but also I am sure alot of them dont. All necros nuking through walls, do however do it on purpose. They know they cant be killed, they know it is a busing, and they still do it, in short, they cheat.

 

[noaim]

Originally posted by Rushie
me thinks noaim has noaim other than to argue till he blue in the face.

u were owned, get over it.

oh and if u wanna call it cheating, what about all the zerkers abusing the LA/end bug, both have been addressed by mythic and will be fixed soon, its not cheating and it will be gone soon so get over it.

You do make a fool out of yourself by even comparing it.

 

[Tigerius]

Having played a Necro for a short while at Renaris retake today I'll readily agree that it's an overpowered ability. It's not a cheat however, it's not an exploit, it's an ability as it currently is and when it's changed it's changed and I won't mind that.

Every realm has always used every (ingame) tool accesible with the very odd exception, you Mids were happily chainstunning for instance back when that was possible. Don't expect any other treatment, it's not us playing unfair, it's Mythic who make the rules and we play by them, for better or worse. This goes for the CS too. Error in judgement by all means, but so was LA+Endreg apparently and you're not going to stop using that are you?

 

[Pandemic]

well look on the bright side the recent take back of the relics by the albs should stop the tide of ex alb wannabe middies was stupid when i went to atk as part of a mid zerg to find 3 other mid zergs camping it didnt get many rp that day

as to the keep / relic defending and taking well we cant very easily against albs until next patch due to necro bug exploit so why bother u will just get rp farmed

when next patch is in we can take back the str relics then we only used 3 rams per door last time so that rule wont adversley affect us

 

[sorusi]

Originally posted by skile
Shitty player? It's all about SC+Buffbots+What class u have. It's very hard to judge skill in DAoC .

there are alot of teamplay skill, and other skill factors in daoc..

maybe not when you zerg, but when you move as 1/2fgs.. wich allmost no alb does..

 

[Rushie]

Originally posted by noaim
You do make a fool out of yourself by even comparing it.

lol and posting 30 odd times on same thread whining and moaning about a cheat that isnt even a cheat isnt making a fool himself?

do us all a favour and fo and make hammers or something, i heard u mids like them.

 

[raekwon]

Naomoanalot...you have the nerve to call me a moron and you are saying your not whinging...well wot the fuk are you doing then?? you have done nothing but and moan about necro's..you suddenly pop up from some hole and start shouting shite, well go crawl back into it and please find a better insult than moron, go look in your abc book i'm sure you can find summin under the letter C....

 

[Wile_E_Coyote]

Summing up what I've already said on the general forum:

Why do people continue to make excuses for bug-abusing? "You would have done it too if you had the chance!", "Some other classes have bugs they abuse too!". Stupid, stupid... Just because some people rob banks does it make it OK for everyone to do so? Its highly anti-social behavior to use faults/bugs in the game against other players and ruin their fun

The logic that "others abuse LOS bugs so why shouldn't I" just doesn't cut it. Two wrongs NEVER make a right. And it’s that kind of attitude that ruins the game for A LOT of players trying to play the game as intended or just playing with a non-bugged class.

I'm an albion playing on prydwen and I still think necro LOS abuse sucks. All bug abuse suck, no matter what realm does it. What does which realm you play on matter anyway? It’s just the result of a semi random choice made in the basis on which realm-setting you thought seemed most fun to play.

 

[raekwon]

shut up and go back to pryd...ty.

 

[Wile_E_Coyote]

How mature

 

[old.Wildfire]

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[raekwon]

Well nothing really to do with you....i don't come here for a lecture on morals i come here to read the whinging and flaming...

 

[Jergiot]

Originally posted by Aussie-
So much cow-love in this thread

lmao

 

[Jergiot]

Originally posted by sorusi
you can do things against a zerker in the battlefield, you cant do shit against a necro when hes nukeing you with xray thru the walls..


and yes, albs have it harder to play and make balanced grps, but it has also to do with all the ignorant ppl killing the needed class (like sorcs)

didnt u delete ur rr5 sorc to go play zerker on mid?

 

[katt!]

Originally posted by noaim
Rather, who are you?

Go to school, learn to spell, then put your grade in your sig for us all to see.

And no, you didnt win, you never win through cheating.

You may defeat the opponent, but you dont win.

u r leet man.

 

[mirak_naijmi]

Go Aussie

This disscussion iskinda silly. You albs saying u didnt win cause of the necroes is just stupid. No it wasnt the necros taking the keeps, i can agree. But they made it TO easy for youre other classes to do their job. Take the infils for example, our sbs couldnt go up on the wall cause as soon as they unstealthed they had a necro nuking them EVEN if they jumped down and ran behind 5 different walls. This means..they go up on the wall they die. So the infils owned out walls. From the walls, they can change the ground target at any time just to target for example one special runie and all of youre ae go on the same, or just a big group of mids at one special place. Usually they cant do these fine tuning which does alot of difference. And they can also kill a runie with theyre crossbows or whatever. Thats just one of the classes going to good just because of necroes.

I played my friends RC runemaster during both youre and our attack. What i do in a keep that is under attack is; i sit back in the safest corner and Gtaoe every 6 second on the door doing ~100 damage to all being close. They dont really mind and continue hitting the door....exept one class...the necromancer. They get hit by me and therefore gets me as target. This far like any other class...But guess what they can do? In a relic keep sitting behind the 3rd door gtaoeing the first u get hit by a necromancer nukes no matter how far away u run from the first door. Il get back to this later this topic...

Comparing them to SM pets or Enchanter pets or even zerkers is even more silly. What damage does a SM pet really do? If it even gets to kill it kills one guy. But id be suprised if it did. And u also have pets u can send in so cut it. Zerkers yes they are overpowered but they cant kill 5 people in 1 min without being seen.

And using the tools you are given??? FOR FUCKS SAKE! This is NOT how they where supposed to work! And GoA not banning people using it....hmmm everyone will use it lots of money going away....doh! I am thou supprised that there isnt an emergency patch cause they do ruin the game.

The relic raid you did was unplanned, easy to counter act and just in general a lousy relic raid. Problem was mids werent showing up to help us who was. This was chocking cause mids lately have generally owned at defending. But just this night(the night albs have been waiting for) we sucked more than youre relic raid. Anyway...at 5 or 6 in the morning you go for our relic keep (very primetime? nm i dont care when u do it aswell as i wont blame any mid for doing it at 5 in the morning) and we are like 60 mids defending and 10(!!!) RC runies with gtaoe. When i saw this i though nm how many albs there are they wont get in. And usually they wouldnt. As soon as an alb comes to the door he takes about 500-1000 damage and wont live for long. No chance youre healer classes can take that amount of damage. But what happened?
I quote myself: They get hit by me and therefore gets me as target. In a relic keep sitting behind the 3rd door gtaoeing the first u get hit by a necromancer nukes no matter how far away u run from the first door.
So we gtaoers got killed fast like hell!

Our raid towards you...same thing but i wasnt quite as far away.

I dont have any pics but i did see a necro flying around inside renaris nuking people...

And its also a question of morale. When ppl gets nuked inside a keep knowing its a bug that shouldnt be there they get quite irritated and sooner or later it becomes to much for some ppl. They whine, lowering the morale of other, and the logg. After 12 hours we werent many left...

Albs realise, you might have succeeded with the relic take. But no way you would have taken back renaris today without relics. And if we had kept renaris the mids would have kept pouring in and eventually you would have been the one with low morale and ppl leaving. Just what happened yesterday in mid. Necroes makes it impossible for us to camp a keep, if u come with an equal force. Usually you can even defend a keep with 1/2 of the attackers force even thou its a very even fight then.

Im not easily irritated, but these necroes went a bit to far. Loosing the relics isnt really an issue for me. I love relic raids and i missed not having anything to raid. So thats not why i "whine". This post and the albions view of this irritated me even more thou. And glottiz....get alife, grow up and die.

 

[froler-mid]

i think i x-bow killed 30 mids on today's keep raiding.


:bazbeer:

 

[mirak_naijmi]

My Lan mate Xara was killed by arrows throu the wall to. You cant do anything but exploit bugs can you? He was tired of getting killed on the walls so he sat down in a corner and guarded me from suiciding infils. Suddenly...tjoffx2 á 800damage=dead xara. Was shot by a bow. Explain that...

 

[froler-mid]

Originally posted by mirak_naijmi
My Lan mate Xara was killed by arrows throu the wall to. You cant do anything but exploit bugs can you? He was tired of getting killed on the walls so he sat down in a corner and guarded me from suiciding infils. Suddenly...tjoffx2 á 800damage=dead xara. Was shot by a bow. Explain that...

actually infil on walls were /assisting with x-bow.....ganked bluecons and ppl sitting down....

the 10sec lagg would explain that u 'felt' like being hit thru walls.


:bazbeer:

 

[Lessurl]

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
Hmm, I love it how Mids can blaim being owned so badly on one class. Today all the Alb keep defense/takes were done by Necro's. No other Alb class took part in it.

Perhaps similar to you constantly harping on about hib superiority being down to bards and their instas?

 

[bracken_woodman]

Originally posted by mirak_naijmi
Problem was mids werent showing up to help.

Bingo! There you have the primary reason. Necros/ bug abuse is a different issue - they aren't why you lost your relics. It was same reason we Albs lost them previously - complacency & not enough people caring.

 

[Garh Khartari]

Originally posted by mirak_naijmi
Go Aussie

This disscussion iskinda silly. You albs saying u didnt win cause of the necroes is just stupid. No it wasnt the necros taking the keeps, i can agree. But they made it TO easy for youre other classes to do their job. Take the infils for example, our sbs couldnt go up on the wall cause as soon as they unstealthed they had a necro nuking them EVEN if they jumped down and ran behind 5 different walls. This means..they go up on the wall they die. So the infils owned out walls. From the walls, they can change the ground target at any time just to target for example one special runie and all of youre ae go on the same, or just a big group of mids at one special place. Usually they cant do these fine tuning which does alot of difference. And they can also kill a runie with theyre crossbows or whatever. Thats just one of the classes going to good just because of necroes.

I played my friends RC runemaster during both youre and our attack. What i do in a keep that is under attack is; i sit back in the safest corner and Gtaoe every 6 second on the door doing ~100 damage to all being close. They dont really mind and continue hitting the door....exept one class...the necromancer. They get hit by me and therefore gets me as target. This far like any other class...But guess what they can do? In a relic keep sitting behind the 3rd door gtaoeing the first u get hit by a necromancer nukes no matter how far away u run from the first door. Il get back to this later this topic...

Comparing them to SM pets or Enchanter pets or even zerkers is even more silly. What damage does a SM pet really do? If it even gets to kill it kills one guy. But id be suprised if it did. And u also have pets u can send in so cut it. Zerkers yes they are overpowered but they cant kill 5 people in 1 min without being seen.

And using the tools you are given??? FOR FUCKS SAKE! This is NOT how they where supposed to work! And GoA not banning people using it....hmmm everyone will use it lots of money going away....doh! I am thou supprised that there isnt an emergency patch cause they do ruin the game.

The relic raid you did was unplanned, easy to counter act and just in general a lousy relic raid. Problem was mids werent showing up to help us who was. This was chocking cause mids lately have generally owned at defending. But just this night(the night albs have been waiting for) we sucked more than youre relic raid. Anyway...at 5 or 6 in the morning you go for our relic keep (very primetime? nm i dont care when u do it aswell as i wont blame any mid for doing it at 5 in the morning) and we are like 60 mids defending and 10(!!!) RC runies with gtaoe. When i saw this i though nm how many albs there are they wont get in. And usually they wouldnt. As soon as an alb comes to the door he takes about 500-1000 damage and wont live for long. No chance youre healer classes can take that amount of damage. But what happened?
I quote myself: They get hit by me and therefore gets me as target. In a relic keep sitting behind the 3rd door gtaoeing the first u get hit by a necromancer nukes no matter how far away u run from the first door.
So we gtaoers got killed fast like hell!

Our raid towards you...same thing but i wasnt quite as far away.

I dont have any pics but i did see a necro flying around inside renaris nuking people...

And its also a question of morale. When ppl gets nuked inside a keep knowing its a bug that shouldnt be there they get quite irritated and sooner or later it becomes to much for some ppl. They whine, lowering the morale of other, and the logg. After 12 hours we werent many left...

Albs realise, you might have succeeded with the relic take. But no way you would have taken back renaris today without relics. And if we had kept renaris the mids would have kept pouring in and eventually you would have been the one with low morale and ppl leaving. Just what happened yesterday in mid. Necroes makes it impossible for us to camp a keep, if u come with an equal force. Usually you can even defend a keep with 1/2 of the attackers force even thou its a very even fight then.

Im not easily irritated, but these necroes went a bit to far. Loosing the relics isnt really an issue for me. I love relic raids and i missed not having anything to raid. So thats not why i "whine". This post and the albions view of this irritated me even more thou. And glottiz....get alife, grow up and die.

Amen.