Manchester Picadilly Station Taxi Rank, 1st Dec, 11pm

[Scooba Da Bass]

Ok here you go; God or a God created the universe.

 

[Testin da Cable]

Originally posted by Will.

Have you tried reading science texts from that time?

win!

 

[Lester]

Originally posted by Will.
I'm a hippie, not a nutter.

I'm a lover not a fighter.

Read an intersting article yesterday about how the parting of the Red Sea and the Egyptian plagues could have a scientific explanation.

 

[bodhi]

Originally posted by Scooba Da Bass
Ok here you go; God or a God created the universe.

I'll disagree with you on that one. Big Bang theory is much easier to swallow than "God made it" which sticks of a cop-out to me.

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

A god initiated what science calls the big bang.

 

[Testin da Cable]

that's better

 

[bodhi]

Originally posted by Scooba Da Bass
A god initiated what science calls the big bang.

Again, highly doubtful.

 

[Testin da Cable]

prove it didn't happen!

 

[Will]

Have you read the Big Bang theory? There is a lot of room in there for almost anything.

 

[plightstar]

The Big Bang was creted either:

*Lots of different gas clouds reacted to form a huge explosion, and created new matter from different particles coliding with each other.


or...


*two parrellel universes colided into each other, and whats left was the startings of our universe.

 

[dysfunction]

The bible is full of stories which are mostly metaphorical and therefore should therefore not be taken literally like a lot of people do.

 

[Will]

No. In the beginning there was nothing, then there was something, due to some dubious maths.

I'll look it up when I get home if anyone is that bothered.

 

[legendario]

Originally posted by bodhi


Again, highly doubtful.

I have to agree.

Current theories for the big bang are easier to swallow than the "a god created the big bang"

All depends on your definition of a god

 

[bodhi]

Originally posted by Will.
Have you read the Big Bang theory? There is a lot of room in there for almost anything.

I studied it for 3 years. There's room in it for a bit more explanation, but little room for a "God" or some other mythical creature. Leprechauns sound more believable than God tbh.

 

[legendario]

Originally posted by Will.
No. In the beginning there was nothing, then there was something, due to some dubious maths.

I'll look it up when I get home if anyone is that bothered.

There was a small something and then a bigger something that is soon to be a smaller something again.

 

[Testin da Cable]

About 15 billion years ago a tremendous explosion started the expansion of the universe. This explosion is known as the Big Bang. At the point of this event all of the matter and energy of space was contained at one point. What exisisted prior to this event is completely unknown and is a matter of pure speculation

 

[dysfunction]

How can you possibly rely on the Bible which was written Eons ago and has been translated...

In each translation the meaning of something can easily be changed or misinterpreted.

It is therefore very unreliable as a source of truthfulness.

It does have a good moral code which is good to live by...buried in all them stories

 

[Will]

Originally posted by bodhi
I studied it for 3 years. There's room in it for a bit more explanation, but little room for a "God" or some other mythical creature. Leprechauns sound more believable than God tbh.

Yeah, but there are enough murky areas you could slide anything into it. (Kind of like the Bible)

Anyway, getting way off my personal beliefs. I don't think for a moment God started the big bang, I've just started putting these points across for the sake of it.

 

[bodhi]

Originally posted by Testin da Cable
About 15 billion years ago a tremendous explosion started the expansion of the universe. This explosion is known as the Big Bang. At the point of this event all of the matter and energy of space was contained at one point. What exisisted prior to this event is completely unknown and is a matter of pure speculation

This much is true aswell. But if all the matter in the universe was concentrated on one point, that's one hell of a dense point. And with densities like the ones they are talking about, its not too hard to believe that an instability in the point mass ripped it apart.

 

[legendario]

Being a scientist type person I find any reference to god or a higher being extremely hard to swallow.

I also find a lot of scientific theory just as hard to swallow.

*phones ENT clinic*

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

Originally posted by plightstar
The Big Bang was creted either:

*Lots of different gas clouds reacted to form a huge explosion, and created new matter from different particles coliding with each other.


or...


*two parrellel universes colided into each other, and whats left was the startings of our universe.

Before the big bang there was nothing. The cosmos was created by the explosion, hence no dust clouds to give rise to matter. As for parallel universe, I've not read that suggested as a theory yet.

 

[bodhi]

But you don't find man chowder hard to swallow!









(It was glaringly obvious).

 

[legendario]

Originally posted by Scooba Da Bass


Before the big bang there was nothing. The cosmos was created by the explosion, hence no dust clouds to give rise to matter. As for parallel universe, I've not read that suggested as a theory yet.

There can't have been nothing exactly.

You can't create energy from nothing otherwise the earth's fuel crisis would be insignificant.

 

[bodhi]

Originally posted by Scooba Da Bass


Before the big bang there was nothing. The cosmos was created by the explosion, hence no dust clouds to give rise to matter.

Wrong. There was the point mass that I was talking about beforehand. Creating matter and energy is a physical impossibility.


(That's GCSE Physics man)

 

[legendario]

Originally posted by bodhi
But you don't find man chowder hard to swallow!

(It was glaringly obvious).

Common knowledge.

 

[plightstar]

we've got to end this now,

Lets face it
neither side of this arguement will never agree on how the universe started.


Besides, the chap at the start of this tread will come back to this and wonder WTF.

I think i'm partly to blame for making this thread spin off course and into debate about ideals on how the universe was created.

maybe in time, will learn the ultimate truth about everything but this will not happen in yours or mine lifetime.

 

[stu]

I created the universe, and I'm fairly tempted to destroy you all

 

[Krazeh]

Originally posted by Scooba Da Bass


Before the big bang there was nothing. The cosmos was created by the explosion, hence no dust clouds to give rise to matter. As for parallel universe, I've not read that suggested as a theory yet.

We don't know that, current theories suggest they may have been a universe before ours that ended in a big crunch to be reborn as the current universe in the big bang, or there's a theory involving a pair of parrallel universes that expand away from each other then collapse back together causing a big bang.
But my point is there could've quite easily been a universe before ours, in fact there could've been many universes before this one.

 

[old.Kez]

Originally posted by mankaroon!
I fail to see what Religion can offer to any self minded individual.

Hope. In a world thats increasingly worrying.

Originally posted by Will
I don't think for a moment God started the big bang

Did the big bang really occur? We don't know, we can only theorise. Science is easily drawn parallel to religion.

 

[bodhi]

Originally posted by Krazeh


We don't know that, current theories suggest they may have been a universe before ours that ended in a big crunch to be reborn as the current universe in the big bang, or there's a theory involving a pair of parrallel universes that expand away from each other then collapse back together causing a big bang.
But my point is there could've quite easily been a universe before ours, in fact there could've been many universes before this one.

Indeed. It's even entirely possible, that the Universe never had a start as such. It is infinite after all.