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old.Tohtori

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Er yes, it was generally believed that the world was flat, only until proven otherwise was it generally considered to be a sphere. You did go to school, right?

Jsut to add fuel to the fire; wasn't it even more recently established that it's not evne a sphere? Like..egg or...tangerine shaped or some such? :D
 

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Er yes, it was generally believed that the world was flat, only until proven otherwise was it generally considered to be a sphere. You did go to school, right?

Good God, you really do believe this? Honestly, you learned this at some point in your life, but never thought to question it?

Seriously? And you then ask me if I had an education?
 

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Ok so let me get this straight so that we are absolutely sure. You are saying we (as in man, not you and me, "we" being commonly used to refer to man) have always known the earth to be a sphere and that it was never thought that the stars, moon and planets travelled through the heavens over a flat earth. So called experts of the time never said that if you travel far enough you would topple from the earth..... ?

There is a whole load of information on your favourite internet quick facts site Flat Earth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia but if you want to look further into it I am sure you can. I only used that as an example as someone else had posted about it.

There are loads of other so called facts formulated by so called experts that have been proven to be incorrect. Just because you are told something is fact doesn't necessarily mean it is. Or are you the type to believe absolutely everything you are told?
 

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The ignorance contained within your posts is astonishing.

You have not the slightest idea what you're talking about.

By the way, I don't really understand why you keep on about Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a reliable source of information. Anyone who understands the simple concept of citations, references, and sources, understands this.
 

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Ok so let me get this straight so that we are absolutely sure. You are saying we (as in man, not you and me, "we" being commonly used to refer to man) have always known the earth to be a sphere and that it was never thought that the stars, moon and planets travelled through the heavens over a flat earth. So called experts of the time never said that if you travel far enough you would topple from the earth..... ?

There is a whole load of information on your favourite internet quick facts site Flat Earth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia but if you want to look further into it I am sure you can. I only used that as an example as someone else had posted about it.

There are loads of other so called facts formulated by so called experts that have been proven to be incorrect. Just because you are told something is fact doesn't necessarily mean it is. Or are you the type to believe absolutely everything you are told?

first line of your link
The flat Earth model is a view that the Earth's shape is a flat plane. This view contrasts with a view recorded around the 4th century BC by natural philosophers of Classical Greece that the Earth is spherical.
Although to be fair it doesn't seem to be worded properly.
 

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Raven you're talking arse juice again. Myth of the Flat Earth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia seriously it's just another American bullshit boast about how we were all stpid until America was discovered, much like their 'we saved your asses in 2 world wars' bollocks.

Well if you look at related link "flat earth", is states that the flat earth myth is only in the sense of the middle age Christianity. Am i right?

How much propaganda the British, whom this relates to, want to put forward as it being "bollocks" is ofcourse another topic.(not saying it's propaganda, but would make sense if it was)

I think raven meant the general peoples belief in a flat earth, not what your link talks about.

However...to paraphrase an old example from, well, could have been Finnish beliefs etc;

"Earth is flat with a dome over it."

So even then there was some curvature in play :p
 

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They are both missing the point by a country mile. I only used that as an example because someone else had posted it and said so several times.

My point is that established fact is not always correct and is often proved to be incorrect as we advance. We only go by what we are told be people who claim to be experts. I think the whole concept is beyond them though :(
 

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Well if you look at related link "flat earth", is states that the flat earth myth is only in the sense of the middle age Christianity. Am i right?

How much propaganda the British, whom this relates to, want to put forward as it being "bollocks" is ofcourse another topic.(not saying it's propaganda, but would make sense if it was)

I think raven meant the general peoples belief in a flat earth, not what your link talks about.

However...to paraphrase an old example from, well, could have been Finnish beliefs etc;

"Earth is flat with a dome over it."

So even then there was some curvature in play :p


how the fuck is it British propaganda? what the hell are you talking about?

The link suggests that the educated were aware of the Earths spherical shape, I'm guessing the uneducated didn't really care, they had other things to worry about.

That last bit also looks like something you heard in your kooky religion tbh.
 

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They are both missing the point by a country mile. I only used that as an example because someone else had posted it and said so several times.

My point is that established fact is not always correct and is often proved to be incorrect as we advance. We only go by what we are told be people who claim to be experts. I think the whole concept is beyond them though :(

And many things turn out NOT to be incorrect. Ho-hum.
 

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The moon landings are a complete pile of toss. It never happened. When will you "educated" people get this into your heads? How you can sit there and be fed lies by the Americans is beyond me. Anyone with half a brain knows that the moon is a button and was first landed on by kitchen untensils in the '80s.
 

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how the fuck is it British propaganda? what the hell are you talking about?

The link suggests that the educated were aware of the Earths spherical shape, I'm guessing the uneducated didn't really care, they had other things to worry about.

That last bit also looks like something you heard in your kooky religion tbh.

I said; I'm not saying it is, but if it was, it wouldn't surprise me.

I read that the flat earth myth was towards middle aged Christianity, which was more or less British majored. Ergo; they would of course like to deny being uneducated like that. Again; not saying it is, but if it was propaganda.

Ok?

That last bit isn't something i heard in my "kooky religion". Flat earth, stars are holes in the dome above earth etc. Bet others have heard it too. Never claimed it was some scientific fact people believed.

In essence, it was an earlier stage of this; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_spheres
 

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Another couple of examples, for those of you that still write with crayons, just in case you still don't understand the point.

Food safety. We are constantly being told one thing is perfectly safe to eat then a few years later they (the experts) have changed their mind, a few years after that, again the facts are different.

Cigarettes were claimed to be good for you by "experts" as it turns out they are quite the opposite.

With the right set of data you can prove pretty much anything to the layman, whether or not it is true or not is really only known to those who genuinely are experts on it, or when a new set of tests is introduced or developed.

Not every cast iron fact is actually true, many are later proven to be incorrect.
 

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Another couple of examples, for those of you that still write with crayons, just in case you still don't understand the point.

Food safety. We are constantly being told one thing is perfectly safe to eat then a few years later they (the experts) have changed their mind, a few years after that, again the facts are different.

Only if you read the Daily Mail. Those reports aren't science. They are some press releases by publicity-hungry departments who have 'preliminary' results that haven't been peer-reviewed. If you think they represent scientific opinion then it's no wonder you think all truth is in flux.
 

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The moon landings are a complete pile of toss. It never happened. When will you "educated" people get this into your heads? How you can sit there and be fed lies by the Americans is beyond me. Anyone with half a brain knows that the moon is a button and was first landed on by kitchen untensils in the '80s.

Lol i thought you were being serious and rude but pulled out the joke perfectly at the end haha
 

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Human caused Global Warming is surely the best example of a commonly accepted 'fact' thats actually nonsense - its slowly starting to breakdown amongst educated people but its still accepted by the masses.
 

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Human caused Global Warming is surely the best example of a commonly accepted 'fact' thats actually nonsense - its slowly starting to breakdown amongst educated people but its still accepted by the masses.

I never have believed that, you only have to look at the history of the Earth to see that its constantly heating up and cooling down. The only reason why the Government has jumped on this green bandwagon is cause they figured out a way to tax it
 

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Q: "What's underneath the Earth?" aka "What's on the bottom?" aka "What's on the other side?"

A: This is unknown. Some believe it to be just rocks, while others believe the Earth rests on the back of four elephants and a turtle.

I'm sold, where do I get my t-shirt?
 

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So can we now start talking about Pink Floyd and their conspiracy in which they recorded The Dark Side of the Moon to sync up with The Wizard of Oz? Because the loonies are clustered like flies around that particularly malodorous column of shit. I've been receiving hate-mail from one particularly angry idiot on YouTube who thinks I'm breaking the law by paying taxes, and I don't have a clue what he's on about.
 

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yeah or at least give us his youtube name so that we may abuse him.
 

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Well here's one:

YouTube nutter said:
You either cant read or you are too scared. That and you sound like another Pathetic Shill.
Your momma obviously never taught you any manners.

The freakin illusion is out. You totally missed the point. But thats what you do with your strawman attacks. I aint talking about your stupid video or the wizard of oz pink floyd thing. But you dont care, cause your another know it all punk shill who will do nothing but attack me for telling you 2+2=4.

The Wizard of Oz (an intro to the extortion book below)

http://www.freedomfiles.org/extortion.pdf

http://www.hackcanada.com/canadian/freedom/mary_croft.pdf

and study up on the 8 violations of international law from Chris Coverdale at user makewarshistory and how the paying of taxes is illegal. Cause Im taking names.

You, can grow up and read, cause Ive had enough of mouthy traitors over the internet that refuse to obey their DUTY as adults. You will be added to my report for the Office of the Special Prosecutor for the UN. Children have rights, adolescents have Freedoms and adults have DUTIES. If your a shill, you should learn the story of the scorpion and the frog. You are the frog riding on the scorpions back. The scorpion is not your friend, is only using you and will leave you out with the rest of us when he starts to drown.

You have shown the stalking behaviour of a child, refusal to accept verifiable knowledge, have offered nothing but some ego tripping god wannabe ad hominem crap. There is no talking to you about something verifiable, true and tested. Your game is something more sick, sinister and childish.

If you refuse to accept your DUTY as an adult, its best you shut your arrogant mouth. Ignoring treason is known as misprision of treason, and that would be two crimes.

Your attempts to dissuade and discourage others from the truth and those of traitors that provide aid and comfort to the enemy in a time of war. DO NOT IMPORT, by whatever means, help, support, assistance, countenance, and encouragement to the enemy. Educate yourself first before spouting off like a pup. Read and then begone in shame.

I cant wait till the camps start locking you mouthpieces up. Im trying to save lives, but with people like you I would rather just join them again and put you all away for good. Tempting. I suppose the ads by the US army and the national guard hiring loads of Internement Specialists for the prison camps and martial law is just a fantasy in your pretty little world. I suppose the NSA getting caught covering up the complicity of the US in 911 is another non reality in your fragile little world cause it would mean you wouldnt be so tough and that the world is really a dark place.

Evolution will prove me right. Too bad you didnt choose the right side. Stick your bigfoot alien crap, and spin a crop circle then learn some sacred geometry. Fool.
 

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that flat earth forum is an absolute fucking hoot. How in todays world that we live in can people believe that shit.

There is a 150m high ice wall just sat at the edge of us stopping the water from falling out! I mean come on, there arguments make Toh's look fucking serious.
 

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Tom that's scary.

For what it's worth I never trust people who use your when they are meaning "you are".

You are = you're

Fucktards, it's not hard?
 

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fucking lol. I mean, seriously.

Re: the flat earth society.

Oh. My. Fucking. Sweet. Lord.

Have you read some of the posts? How on (flat) earth could we agree which console is the best when there are fanbois who think the earth is flat? This has to be a wind up surely.

"zomg no, you've only seen photos of a round earth, which could clearly be faked" jesus christ.
 

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Had a trawl through Flat Earth forums a couple of years ago when bored. They are indeed epic.
 

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