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old.[BEER]BudIce

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ah its all looking good and if barrysworld do host a wolfy league within the next 3 weeks or so im sure thry would be able to win over some of the jolt and blueyonder peeps and make the community much stronger. :D
I think I'll have to go with the 7v7 mode as that would suit the best. FF on and stopwatch mode objective :)

Well I'll check back here every few days and see whats happining, but if you would require any help/assistance with admins or server cfgs then gimmi a shout as we have our own server that im always tweaking :p and I have previously been an admin for jolt/blueyonder and wireplay.

Any news on a BW#IRC?
 
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old.Redfive

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6v6 is the best number of players, it really is, weve played loads of games now, and 7v7 is too much and gets into a mad deathmatch, and 8v8 is just ridiculous, while I agree the more players the better on a public server, this concept doesnt work for clan games :upyours:

European clans play 5v5, and that seems to work ok, but imo I think 6v6 is the best option to go with, especially as the cb cup, savage league, official id/ogl tournament are all 6v6 competitions, would be silly for bw to make an 7v7/8v8 tournament.

As mentioned earlier a few of the clans i know have 10 members max, as we have 8 members max (as to try to keep the same team playing games etc) would prove to be very difficult for the majority of the clan if not all the clan to be playing at same time.

Hope the BW League starts soon though, its what the wolfy community needs right now :clap:

Red
http://www.allgunsblazing.co.uk
#agbclan (Quakenet)
 
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.cage

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tbh cups are intended to be short and simple affairs, which is why Clanbase have gone with 6v6.
Savage ladders have typically left the team size to the clans playing, are the leagues different?
the "official id/ogl tournament" is a one off international event, that has to cater for fucking shit europeans, so have little choice other than 6v6 :|

With 6v6 maps like depot turn in to two 3v3's, which essentially boils down to who has the greater deathmatch skills. With 8v8 it throws in the additional tactical element of "3 defenders or 5?" "3 attackers or 5?", which can make a huge difference

Besides, i'm sure with a little work on the social skills, and the ability to form a stronger argument than "6V6 OR IT IZ SHIET!!111" AGB would have no problems recruiting new members :rolleyes:
 
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SuperNickX

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lol

Being in clan allgunsblazing, one of the more experienced clans in playing actual clan games, I for one say anything more than 6v6 just plain isn't fun. It's hectic, takes little skill and is impossible for attackers. (Comms, assault for example)

CPL rules are going to be 6v6, clanbase default rules are 6v6, savage appears to be going 6v6. CPL is basically what every clan looking to be serious tries for. So it's only natural all clans trying for something serious in gaming, that they follow the rules of the gamers competition(s).

AGB have had well over 50 clan games now, ranging from 4v4 to 8v8; we've found 4v4 to be too low and boring, 5v5 still not that great but 6v6 just great for all maps. 7v7 is moderate on 1 or 2 maps but even then it's still far too difficult to play effectively as a team. It just turns into deathmatch of who can kill who better, not who can rush as a small, organised team. Example being 6v6 on depot.

If you wish to post your arguments on why it should be anything above 6v6, please have sufficient experience and reasoning.

Otherwise you're sticking your wrench where it don't belong.

6v6 is rediculously shit.
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Chameleon

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lol mate, could you be more condisending???
Beleive it or not many people here have been playing clan matches in most games/mods since the early days of the net. I think there's a little more experience than you are giving credit for. But then I see that your clan seems to be regarded as 'above average', so I understand the arrogance ...........
 
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SuperNickX

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We're talking wolf here, we're not talking other games.

As someone else already explained, experience from other games does not make you experienced in this game, so sort your mouth before you come out with comments like that.

Do you see ex cs'ers coming over to wolf and demanding 5v5? Or q3ers coming over and wanting 4v4?
How many 1v1s do you even see in wolf?

Don't see where I was condescending either. Asking for people to post with experience with many rtcw clan games makes for better results, other than "6v6 IS A LOAD OF SHIT I TOTALLY DISAGREE!!"
 
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.cage

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Being in clan allgunsblazing, one of the more experienced clans in playing actual clan games
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Such blatant assumptions, everyone in my clan has been around since Quakeworld. I take it you're CS or some stupid newbie shit?

We're talking wolf here, we're not talking other games
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/me passes supernick a medal

As someone else already explained, experience from other games does not make you experienced in this game
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U-turn there?

How many 1v1s do you even see in wolf?
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I think you need to get some sort of basic education, or check 'irony' in the dictionary.

Besides, isn't it a bit cheeky to be making demands? After all

penge resident
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And yes, chameleon was right, AGB appear to be the most thouroughly condescending ignorant imbeciles ever to appear on the clan scene. Raging hormones methinks.

I mean, what next? Offering your uber "TWO MONTHZ EXPERIENCE WE ROXOR J00!111111 CLAN BASE IS DA SHIT!!!11" etc. to help all the 'newbies' who've only been playing the game a month? :|

You'd REALLY fit in the American leagues tbh, I can fully imagine if someone took so much as a round off you, you trying to say "WE'RE ALL DYING YOU WOULD NOT NORMALLY DEFEAR UZ!! WE RULE YOU REMATCH"
 
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SuperNickX

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Originally posted by CageCunt


And yes, chameleon was right, AGB appear to be the most thouroughly condescending ignorant imbeciles ever to appear on the clan scene. Raging hormones methinks.

I mean, what next? Offering your uber "TWO MONTHZ EXPERIENCE WE ROXOR J00!111111 CLAN BASE IS DA SHIT!!!11" etc. to help all the 'newbies' who've only been playing the game a month? :|

You'd REALLY fit in the American leagues tbh, I can fully imagine if someone took so much as a round off you, you trying to say "WE'RE ALL DYING YOU WOULD NOT NORMALLY DEFEAR UZ!! WE RULE YOU REMATCH"
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Did you actually make any valid point there?

Congrats, you've been around since qw, that sure does boost your experience in rtcw. Oh wait, it doesn't, you just like to think it does.

Cool, I won a medal, you seem to need it more though. Sell it and buy yourself some comprehension software.

I asked a question: how many 1v1s do you see in rtcw?

I really like your reasoning to why we're imbeciles. But going through some of your other posts, I see you have a hard time backing your reasons up. "6v6 IS REDICOUSLSUYL SHIT" etc

I do love laughing at board trolls, your life must be great. :)
 
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.cage

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Right, after getting that off my chest, i think we need some intelligent debate on wether this league is going to be 8v8, or 6v6. It's quite evident that every single AGB clanmember or affilliate is going to signup to this board, post about three posts on how great 6v6 is, and disappear indefinately, but i've yet to hear the views of anyone else voiced.
 
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SuperNickX

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Originally posted by CageCunt
Right, after getting that off my chest, i think we need some intelligent debate on wether this league is going to be 8v8, or 6v6.
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Time for you to leave then I think. With your reasoning and comprehension, it will be like feeding information into the holes of a wall.

I've seen several other posts supporting 6v6 by dH, bigbb and some others on here. You should read everyone's input before skipping to someone disagreeing with you and flaming them.

I put my 2p in and the board trollers kick in. Got something to say? Keep it real then. Don't twist things I say or interrupt them in your own little world.
 
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.cage

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k :(

Sorry if I can't quite matchup to "Look everyone 6v6 rocks, everything else sucks but we know what we're talking about you don't!"
 
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Chameleon

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lol SuperNick. If playing most other online fps games doesn't give people enough experience to comment on the format of an RTCW league, I think it does at least qualify most people to know what your type are like. Take your head out your arse and let other people have their say on what the leagues might be best setup like. I don't think many people give a toss what 'the top clans' would like, it's not relevant, the leagues aren't run for you, even if you do think you and your clan are the centre of the universe.
I and many others have been playing in clans for many many online games and I DO think that this experience has a bearing on RTCW. You might not agree, but frankly, so what.
As for Forums trollers, hhhhhhmmmmm, most of these people including myself contribute regularly on many subjects. It is you that jumped in and started making bold statements and implying that 'lesser mortals' are talking out their arse.
We know your thoughts, thanks, bye.
 
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SuperNickX

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Originally posted by CageCunt
6v6 is rediculously shit.
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Enough said for you really. It's clear anyone who disagrees with you is in the wrong, so view your "reasoning" up there and tell everyone why it's 'rediculously' shit.

Cool chameleon, good post there, some more invalid comments for me to laugh at.

I didn't flame no one, I merely asked if more experienced clans and players as said above could make comments, so we could avoid Cagecunt type comments.

There's many experienced rtcw clans I think are better than agb including dh, toyz, bob and more of the euro ones including snaps, mirage and Peacemakers. Perhaps I would like to hear their opinions rather than people who have played qw for 4 years but only had 3 rtcw clan games which were all 8v8.
But yeah, anyway, if you've played counter-strike, quake2 or quake3, you're clearly more experienced than others who have just started on rtcw, seeing as they're all so similar. [/sarcasm]


I kept my comments civilised, if people choose to flame them it's their lookout. At the end of the day, I laugh at most flamers and get a kick out of their replies as they contain no logical information at all.
 
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Chameleon

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See there you go again! If your not in the elite class, then your a newb who's played 3 games of 8v8. Dear o dear, I thought it'd be longer before your type found their way into rtcw :rolleyes:
 
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SuperNickX

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Click close window now, you'll be doing yourself a favor.

Originally posted by Ch@meleon
See there you go again! If your not in the elite class, then your a newb who's played 3 games of 8v8. Dear o dear, I thought it'd be longer before your type found their way into rtcw :rolleyes:
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You said it, not me.
If you want to twist people's words, you surely can. Whether they hold truth is a different story.
 
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old.BlueFire

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Sorry I find CageCunts posts ridiculous, and well, think your giving a bad name to Turnip Farmers quite frankly.

6v6 is the best and proven number of players ina clan war for RTCW, chameleons posts dont really make sence as games are different doesnt matter if you have played whatever for whatever years, this is rtcw and the more experienced clans are coming on here to air their views having played 40 odd more clan games than yourselves.

Its like saying "oh yeah were new to football, but scrap 11v11 lets go with 21vs21, will be much better, fuck all the premier division clans, Im cagecunt and will not listen to anyone else but myself trying to be funny"

I see what a few people mean now about turnip farmers attitude, or maybe its just "cage Ive played 3 clanwars cunt"

TBH I think causing an argument with SuperNick is stupid and shows the maturity of some people who dont like seeing everything going their way.

8v8 is plain silly, 6v6 please BW!
 
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throdgrain

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I think 8v8 would be a good idea myself.
(oh god what HAVE i said :) )
must say ive wandered off rtcw back to cs a bit lately which is a shame.i blame it on the luits meself ... :)
 
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Chameleon

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Re: Click close window now, you'll be doing yourself a favor.

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A good comeback for someone with no comeback
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lmao

or even better, have a comeback that actually makes no sense whatsoever.

We could go on like this all day, but your wasting my time now. Although some might get some amusement from your 'village idiot' comments, there's little point in continuing this childishness. You made your point, I made mine.
Put your views across by all means, but don't go inferring that other people are talking crap. If someone's opinion differs to yours, it's not wrong, just different.
 
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old.BlueFire

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Its fair play that people want 8v8, used to public servers, think the maps are bigger than they actually are, think it will be "fun" but the more experienced clans in RTCW are only offering their pennys worth here, which has to be agreed by myself 6v6 is the best option and no more.
 
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.cage

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I dont often play on publics? Your entire argument is based on assumptions
dull :/
 
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old.BlueFire

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I havent said you dont often play on publics, read the post again.

You have obviously played more public RTCW than clangame RTCW
 
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