Lag whine thread #213
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Whoever's fault it is, it needs fixing. tonight when i finally gave in on lvling some artis at 11:30, the was only 2 people on in my guild..and less than 250 in all of hib..i know for sure the poeple in my guild had vacated de to the insane lag..and i wouldnt be surprised if the rest of the hibs vashied for the same reason...regardless of who's fault it is the result is gonna be the same. people are fed up withthis kinda service...and are leaving, it will only accelerate the longer it goes on.
Well, at 11:50pm on the 4th of december, after a hard day of constant lag (from 1pm to ... well even as i'm writing this) i decide to help my realm defend against the forces of albion, only to find that NF is laggier than the dungeon (coruscating mines) that i was farming in.
All is going smoothly, 2fg hibs holding back the massive alb zerg ... all seems fine when supposidly the tower doors get repaired. Ok, i decided to chill, rebuff etc, only to find that yet another 10 second lag spike has just started ... much to my delight, 20 albs appear on top of my head after lag has ended and lo and behold, 2 fg hibs lying dead of the floor. Albs are there, smashing up the keep lord as if nothing has happened , no lag, not even fps lag it seems, while the entirity of the hib population are about to go ld.
Now i don't know where most of the alb population are situated, but RvR is becoming impossible, and so far the only feedback we are getting from GoA are "we need more ping plotters" ... How many more, 1? ... 2? ... 200?
Don't you have enough already? When will the servers become bearable? When will the lag end? Now, i'm not one to preach but i'm getting tired of all the people on here saying "If you don't like the lag then quit" What if i don't want to quit? I want to be able to enjoy the game i am playing with AT LEAST minimal lag. All online games have lag, it's unavoidable, but the sheer amount of lag that we are getting is just unbearable. Also, if i quit, and everyone else that has lag quits, GoA and mythic go out of business, and all you lot lose a good game to play. You probably didn't think of that in your haste to tell all the people QQ'ing about lag. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
I want some real feedback, not just a load of people saying "Do ping plotters" or "Look at this thread. It says: Send in ping plotters". Now i know, after reading thread after thread that it obviously isn't GoA's problem (or so they suggest it isn't). But at the end of the day it is everyone's problem. No it may not be GoA's problem to look after the server, but they need to look after the customer. They are, in effect, our "middle man" in contacting OT. OT don't care about us little people, but the bigger people (i.e. GoA), they are gonna care about. And as stated before, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Thus if the little people (us) don't want anthing to do with the big people (Mythic or OT [dunno which]) then the middle man (GoA) is gonna lose out just as much as everyone else - Mythic loses customers, Us (the customer) lose a good game, GoA lose their jobs, and OT become renound (spl) for their lack of co-operation and their shitty (language) servers.
Obviously i don't want any of these people to miss out or lose their jobs. I am a sad person in which DAoC is a big part of my life. Yes it is only a game, but at the same time it is my escape from the real world. If i die i can start again, i can make easy money, i can kill people and just get away from the stress and strain of the real world.
Tell me how MANY ping plotters you want and I will attempt to get them to you. In which case you have my full co-operation. Otherwise i won't bother because i will send you a ping plotter or two, nothing will have been done and you will have wasted my time and effort. Admittedly I think that you probably have enough ping plotters already. People have been sending them in for a LONG time. But if I get assurance that it will help, then i will gladly send you the ping plotters.
(To GoA) You say in your threads that if we don't send in ping plotters the lag will NEVER EVER EVER go away. Well ... after several hundred (or maybe even thousand) ping plotters have been send to you the lag STILL hasn't gone away. I want to see exact detail's on how many ping plotters you want, not just "keep sending them in" or else i'm gonna think "Why? Surely one, or two, or even 10 are enough"
(To people that like to moan that we don't listen) We do listen, and as nice as GoA may be in treating us, they don't exactly give us a great deal of detail in this sort of case. They said they need ping plotters, its OT's fault and could be network problems. All are probably 100% true. But at the end of the day, they probably aren't telling the whole story.
(To all else) Please just send in the ping plotters, I can't cope with this lag anymore!!!!!!!
P.S. I'm sorry for dragging on a bit
All is going smoothly, 2fg hibs holding back the massive alb zerg ... all seems fine when supposidly the tower doors get repaired. Ok, i decided to chill, rebuff etc, only to find that yet another 10 second lag spike has just started ... much to my delight, 20 albs appear on top of my head after lag has ended and lo and behold, 2 fg hibs lying dead of the floor. Albs are there, smashing up the keep lord as if nothing has happened , no lag, not even fps lag it seems, while the entirity of the hib population are about to go ld.
Now i don't know where most of the alb population are situated, but RvR is becoming impossible, and so far the only feedback we are getting from GoA are "we need more ping plotters" ... How many more, 1? ... 2? ... 200?
Don't you have enough already? When will the servers become bearable? When will the lag end? Now, i'm not one to preach but i'm getting tired of all the people on here saying "If you don't like the lag then quit" What if i don't want to quit? I want to be able to enjoy the game i am playing with AT LEAST minimal lag. All online games have lag, it's unavoidable, but the sheer amount of lag that we are getting is just unbearable. Also, if i quit, and everyone else that has lag quits, GoA and mythic go out of business, and all you lot lose a good game to play. You probably didn't think of that in your haste to tell all the people QQ'ing about lag. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
I want some real feedback, not just a load of people saying "Do ping plotters" or "Look at this thread. It says: Send in ping plotters". Now i know, after reading thread after thread that it obviously isn't GoA's problem (or so they suggest it isn't). But at the end of the day it is everyone's problem. No it may not be GoA's problem to look after the server, but they need to look after the customer. They are, in effect, our "middle man" in contacting OT. OT don't care about us little people, but the bigger people (i.e. GoA), they are gonna care about. And as stated before, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Thus if the little people (us) don't want anthing to do with the big people (Mythic or OT [dunno which]) then the middle man (GoA) is gonna lose out just as much as everyone else - Mythic loses customers, Us (the customer) lose a good game, GoA lose their jobs, and OT become renound (spl) for their lack of co-operation and their shitty (language) servers.
Obviously i don't want any of these people to miss out or lose their jobs. I am a sad person in which DAoC is a big part of my life. Yes it is only a game, but at the same time it is my escape from the real world. If i die i can start again, i can make easy money, i can kill people and just get away from the stress and strain of the real world.
Tell me how MANY ping plotters you want and I will attempt to get them to you. In which case you have my full co-operation. Otherwise i won't bother because i will send you a ping plotter or two, nothing will have been done and you will have wasted my time and effort. Admittedly I think that you probably have enough ping plotters already. People have been sending them in for a LONG time. But if I get assurance that it will help, then i will gladly send you the ping plotters.
(To GoA) You say in your threads that if we don't send in ping plotters the lag will NEVER EVER EVER go away. Well ... after several hundred (or maybe even thousand) ping plotters have been send to you the lag STILL hasn't gone away. I want to see exact detail's on how many ping plotters you want, not just "keep sending them in" or else i'm gonna think "Why? Surely one, or two, or even 10 are enough"
(To people that like to moan that we don't listen) We do listen, and as nice as GoA may be in treating us, they don't exactly give us a great deal of detail in this sort of case. They said they need ping plotters, its OT's fault and could be network problems. All are probably 100% true. But at the end of the day, they probably aren't telling the whole story.
(To all else) Please just send in the ping plotters, I can't cope with this lag anymore!!!!!!!
P.S. I'm sorry for dragging on a bit
That is dated 2nd December in thread on general section.
https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=40615
So I guess something is being done now but more pingplots are welcome.
Hestethun
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too bad no from goa has replied to this post ;( just show the intresst from goa aint on top , to make it best for the daoc players. And yes it way more ppl then 10% of daoc community that will leave Daoc for WoW or EQ2.
But that Mythic and Goa allrdy know I guess, only reason I can see why they run this, they admitted they lost to wow and eq2.
But that Mythic and Goa allrdy know I guess, only reason I can see why they run this, they admitted they lost to wow and eq2.
Phule_Gubben
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Same lag today as yesterday, it ain't fun to lag/go ld all the time.
TV here i come.
TV here i come.
noaim
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Well, lets say I own this big company that sell...underwear, with the brand name Daoc. People that bought my underwear are having problems with them, they have no good quality. At this very time, a new competitor in the underwear-market is entering the scene, the brand called WoW. I hear that alot of people are planning to start using WoW instead, since my underwear isnt of any good quality. This leaves me with 3 options.
1. I put my heart and soul into making sure my material-provider provides me with better material and make sure my underwear holds top-class quality.
2. I dont care at all.
3. I tell my costumers thats its nothing wrong with my sewingmachines and that I am not responsible for the material that I am buying, to make the underwear I sell. I also ask em to examine the materials and tell me whats wrong with it instead of examining the material myself to find a solution before I lose all my costumers to this other competitor.
I know what I would do, and I know what GOA has chosen to do. And I know who is making some extra profit from it aswell.
1. I put my heart and soul into making sure my material-provider provides me with better material and make sure my underwear holds top-class quality.
2. I dont care at all.
3. I tell my costumers thats its nothing wrong with my sewingmachines and that I am not responsible for the material that I am buying, to make the underwear I sell. I also ask em to examine the materials and tell me whats wrong with it instead of examining the material myself to find a solution before I lose all my costumers to this other competitor.
I know what I would do, and I know what GOA has chosen to do. And I know who is making some extra profit from it aswell.
old.Whoodoo
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Why would they reply to this post as well as the 100000 other posts of the same nature? Try trawling the rest of the forums for the same answer they give daily.Hestethun said:
Yes they dojokke said:
its down to the Euro player base to send as many ping plots as possible to GoA so they can put more weight behind thier complaints to opentransit and get this problem fixed
one of the brainy types here can post why Mythic cant force GoA to do anything about it, to do with contracts and licences
If you don't read the Friday News then please don't say we aren't communicating on the issue. Two posts in this thread complaining we haven't mentioned it two days after the news was published....Jarahl said:
scorge
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Requiel said:
With respect Requiel, this is not really news:
OpenTransit Network
Some lag issues are sometimes due to network problems, mainly for players that connect out of France. We thank all those who reported the problem to us and provided ping plots. They have been transmitted to OpenTransit who will analyse them and will be taking the necessary measures to enhance the traffic quality.
We knew this a month ago. What Jarahl is saying is that there is no current news. Putting something in the news thread that is a month old, is not news its history..
Pohjan Poika
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im pissed that i paid for 3months, such waste!
What a Joke!
Ok, well, we all know about the lag situation by now, but i think that something should be brought to light.
While RvR'ing today, experience (same old) MAJOR lag problems, that are just getting boring now, a small grp of us go out to take some unlaimed keeps (omg we pwn
) . Omg, get to the keep, normal "meet up with albs fps lag" fades with 2/3 seconds. Doors down, we're in, uhhh, ok, here is where it gets interesting. Zerg the keep lord!! Yeah baby, not very hard admittedly 
. Lag spike, boring, been coping with them for the past 2 days, stealther in a grp has a friend that plays Alb/Excal. Asks this friend if they have been experiencing any lag problems, Alb answers "No". Odd i think, all us hibs (and maybe even mids) have SERIOUS lag issues, while albs ... nothing ... they can move around without lag.
Can anyone explain this to me?
Ok, well, we all know about the lag situation by now, but i think that something should be brought to light.
While RvR'ing today, experience (same old) MAJOR lag problems, that are just getting boring now, a small grp of us go out to take some unlaimed keeps (omg we pwn
) . Omg, get to the keep, normal "meet up with albs fps lag" fades with 2/3 seconds. Doors down, we're in, uhhh, ok, here is where it gets interesting. Zerg the keep lord!! Yeah baby, not very hard admittedly . Lag spike, boring, been coping with them for the past 2 days, stealther in a grp has a friend that plays Alb/Excal. Asks this friend if they have been experiencing any lag problems, Alb answers "No". Odd i think, all us hibs (and maybe even mids) have SERIOUS lag issues, while albs ... nothing ... they can move around without lag. Can anyone explain this to me?
Helme
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Wert said:Unplayable today, albs still appear to have no lag, lding during keep raids, hopeless.
Gonna catch up with some college work, more interesting than watching myself lag all the time
Its becouse albs keep filling up the LD'd people with new ones.
Heath
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LMFAO...get freaking real...check out the threads in Off Topic.
Just because we dont post under the Alb section does not mean we are getting them.
Or, do you think it is a conspiracy against Mid and Hib even more. Lag you lot out and leave Alb alone.
Its happening to all of us. Live with it..we all have too.
And, just because i person says they dont get lag means the whole realm isnt getting it !!. Wake up dipstick.
Just because we dont post under the Alb section does not mean we are getting them.
Or, do you think it is a conspiracy against Mid and Hib even more. Lag you lot out and leave Alb alone.
Its happening to all of us. Live with it..we all have too.
And, just because i person says they dont get lag means the whole realm isnt getting it !!. Wake up dipstick.
FYI, don't call me a dipstick,
concerning your last comment: the WHOLE of hib has been getting the lag, while im lagging out i get run over by alb zergs to find myself dead. Therefore, if i asked 1 individual on hib if they had lag they would respond with "yes". The fact that 1 individual on alb says "no" proves that the lag is NOT affected the whole of your realm.
And please eplain to me why you have to insult me, i stated a fact, i havent got round to read all the forums yet. There is no need to throw insults left right and centre just because your an alb.
concerning your last comment: the WHOLE of hib has been getting the lag, while im lagging out i get run over by alb zergs to find myself dead. Therefore, if i asked 1 individual on hib if they had lag they would respond with "yes". The fact that 1 individual on alb says "no" proves that the lag is NOT affected the whole of your realm.
And please eplain to me why you have to insult me, i stated a fact, i havent got round to read all the forums yet. There is no need to throw insults left right and centre just because your an alb.
Heath
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Wert said:
Any facts to back up the fact that the WHOLE of Hib has been getting it??.
It just matters who you ask. Because you ask 1 person on hib who has it..the whole realm has it, and cos you ask 1 person on Alb who doesnt have it...Alb doesnt suffer from it !!. You have stated no facts what soever apart from the fact that you and the other hib you asked are getting lag. I am off the game at the moment because of the crappy lag. And i posted on the Off Topic to say how crap it is.
I am not insulting you, just your train of thinking. And what the hell does me Being an Alb have to do with it ??. I also play a Hib on Pryd server. I get lag there too. So, before you make a post stating a fact "that you think is a fact" read other posts. As you yourself said
Wert said:
Means that you DON'T have all the facts. Therefore, you make yourself look a dipstick by process of elimination.
I'm not gonna argue with a person that does selective reading. I told you a fact that person said they had no lag. That is a FACT! I also told a FACT that the whole of hib has been getting lag. People asking on /as and the entirity of /as go spammed with YES, That is a FACT. By one person on alb saying they had no lag it is also a FACT that not all of alb is affected.
And lastly, i read the "off topic forum". No lag threads. A couple in RvR discussion - mainly from hibs/mids from what i could see. Again, these are FACTS. You maybe unlucky to get the lag, and therefore you are able to see what the rest of us are going through. But when i'm doing a keep take, and i lag for 10-15 seconds and find myself and 2 fg hibs lying dead to 1 grp of albs, anyone would be able to summerise that they aren't all feeling the same effect of the lag.
And lastly, i read the "off topic forum". No lag threads. A couple in RvR discussion - mainly from hibs/mids from what i could see. Again, these are FACTS. You maybe unlucky to get the lag, and therefore you are able to see what the rest of us are going through. But when i'm doing a keep take, and i lag for 10-15 seconds and find myself and 2 fg hibs lying dead to 1 grp of albs, anyone would be able to summerise that they aren't all feeling the same effect of the lag.
