Just an Idea!

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

Lately it has been alot of discussion around the drop in population on the English cluster and other de/fr servers.

Would it be a good idea / possible to make a new fresh server with English as main language ( to be fair more ppl speak English then de / fr / sp / it ), and let people char transfear / copy to those servers. [Most likely it will be one]

The result of this could be a server with near cap population and active PvE zones and RvR zones since in diffrence from a normal clustered server ppl would share the "normal zones aswell".
- Housing zone could be a problem but I think you could by-pass that if ppl where given houses at very low costs in the beginning of the server ( this could work as a dragster aswell, to get ppl to feel they gain something imegently if they swap server )
- PvE zones both high and low level ones would gain a boost when it comes to ppl using them. Atm on the clustered servers those zones are separate and not many ppl use them since there basically are not enough ppl there to make it worth exping there, so instead you PL; wich also makes the game of 0 interest to ppl returning or experiencing the game for the 1st time. Simply put people bring people and no people brings no people .
- RvR zones would be like they always been but with hopefully more ppl and since it is a "fresh" server we could maybe experience an affect were alot of competative people join it, and they in turn bring more people ( the people bring people effect again ).

All in all I think this would be a better option then having this "fotm" server swaps were people reroll time and time again. You could bring your whole guild with you to this new server ( where hopefully alot of other ppl will be to ) and start up there, or actually you do not start up, you just swap an unhealthy dying server for a new one and more homogen (sp) server.

Well what is peaple views on this?
Is character copying even possible at large?
Would people actually move or would it be like "I move if i notice 2k others moved", hence noone takes the first step kinda of a thing.
Would this more "homogen" server revive the PvE aspect of the game ( wich I know alot of ppl like ) or would it be the same; and people keep PLing and keep doing small scale ML raids without involving the rest of the realm?

Well what you folk say. Y / N / (M)aybe

 

[Vodkafairy]

no, it would fuck up existing servers even more. just make multi-server clustering and adapt daoc rvr to better house the different playstyles (free-for-all, 1v1, 8v8, siege)

 

[Eleasias]

indeed gifv multi-cluster instead, that would only split playerbase between people who go there and people who stay behind

 

[Stallion]

id say its a good idea, then vf can bring all his women there and giggle away without bothering me at Avalon.

 

[Sean]

its a good idea, but think about who you are asking to do it .......

 

[Vulcan]

Even better. Cluster the whole of the Euro servers with the US ones at least then there would be people online to stop all this irvr & AC raiding guard pve whine threads.......Like thats ever gonna happen also

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

its a good idea, but think about who you are asking to do it .......

Well I'm not really asking "them" to do anything, I do not even play DAoC, just trying to bring up a discussion that might actually be a good one

no, it would fuck up existing servers even more. just make multi-server clustering and adapt daoc rvr to better house the different playstyles (free-for-all, 1v1, 8v8, siege)

Hmm, well judging from posts and the atmosphere here the existing servers seems already pritty fucked up, in both PvE and RvR pov.
Making a new international server where ppl can transfear all their characters to is a better response then doing nothing or just keep clustering existing servers.
Try looking at it like this:
At the moment the Engilsh cluster is pritty much done with, the only RvR playstyles it houses is adding, zerging and pre arranged 8v8. There are so few ppl left that RvR is predictable i.e, it displays near the 3 bridges, the mainkeeps and Agramon. People then get fed up with it and move to another server and start from scratch. Alot of people would not want to start from scratch in a game like DAoC since the PvE and low level gameplay is pritty much dead, making it tremendously frustrating. ["Dead" due to drop in playerbase where clustering of multiple servers is the reason to a high RvR pop. and hence almost no PvEing ppl]
Already here alot of people will leave the game when the English cluster finally runs so low that there is little to no point to log on. But having 1 or 2 International servers where you move you characters to, along with your guild where all players share all zones will make it more homogen and intersting in all the games aspects. There are more players that share a common land instead of 3-4, ( and in the states there are like on some cluster 5 servers? ) wich will result in a feeling that the server is alive, vibrates and lives.

Well that is what I think could happend if you where to try this idea out in its direct form or abit modified.

Still disagree ?

 

[Donledirse]

Would be good if they clustered all Euro classic servers, like they did on US.
I'd like to see all BGS and NF shared between all servers aswell, don't care if there's a language barrier. At least action would be constant and lots of choice to choose the rvr you most enjoy. e.g. 8v8, 1v1 or BGS.

 

[Vodkafairy]

not all servers have the same atmosphere as english cluster, so yes I still disagree. I mean its a fact daoc lost its magic a long time ago and most people continue to play because of friendships, the actual gameplay, but not because it's all new and special like it used to be.

to breathe new life into daoc there should be a reason for people to come back in a cool situation with lots of people to play with, and lots of things to do, in a healthy atmosphere.

cluster atm is drenched in whine about conflicting playstyles and whatnot, but other servers evolved into allowing several playstyles together. still it's a hassle because the game code doesn't really allow for it - that's why I say they should do a thorough overhaul of the rvr system to suit all different styles and add more people by massive advertising + clustering of existing servers.

creating a new server would drain the existing ones even more, and sticking everyone on one big massive server is something the current game really wouldn't handle. think toa artifact camping but then a million times worse, everything would have to be instanced. that + constant server crashing.

find a way to create a fun solo zone without artificial duels, organise (commercial) 8v8 tournaments cs-fps-style, give out jobs for people like ardamel, mastade, tappi to constantly organise rvr raids in regular frontier zones for all levels, classes and whatever to join in and have fun. and most important of all: make sure those three don't clash with eachother.

there's a lot of potential in daoc's gameplay but mythic chooses to give us taurens instead of do some serious improvement. guess we can only hope warhammer will be anything like daoc can be, because that's the obvious focus of mythic. it's a shame, because really, the actual gameplay in daoc (mainly 8v8 for me) is imo the top of the mmo market by a fucking longshot.

 

[MxN]

I think we should email mythic (goa wont answer cause there lazyfucks) and see what they have in mind about the population in months/year to come

 

[partyanimal]

there is a sayin "if u want smt to b done, diy"
since u played a lot in freeshards sneeckers, why dont persuade the admins to run the server the way u want?
"instant50", instant-ml10, instant-rr11, instance rvr fg
or take some pills n get over daoc, cause the vast majority couldnt keep up w u n mythic n left

 

[Gahn]

I think we should email mythic (goa wont answer cause there lazyfucks) and see what they have in mind about the population in months/year to come

They got Warhammer in mind peeps, let's get over it already -.-

 

[Punishment]

I do believe they tried that awhile back ... it was called Glastenbury or smt

P.S. If u are looking for it try the bottom of the server lists under cumbria

 

[BloodOmen]

Agree... mythic should fix it so we can join with french/german servers :/ population would be amazing then be like a second life in rvr

 

[Punishment]

Agree... mythic should fix it so we can join with french/german servers :/ population would be amazing then be like a second life in rvr

Well considering the size of new frontiers yes ...

But in reality ... with I-rvr and people bottlenecking at bridges/main keeps lag would most likely be a major downside

 

[BloodOmen]

True puni life > death tho

 

[Arethir]

It only seems like the RvR is shit because some people (who don't even play this cluster anymore) qq alot. There's still alot of groups having fun with agramon-rvr, and alot of people in the zerg-warfare whenever there's IRvR. Some of us are still enjoying it

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

to breathe new life into daoc there should be a reason for people to come back in a cool situation with lots of people to play with, and lots of things to do, in a healthy atmosphere.

Well having one or two homogen "super servers" with English as official language ( or a way to make the own client determine what language you have displayed ) would as I see it be the only way to maintain a high population and a functioning gameplay for the ones left. NF do not work on a server with 1000 ppl on it, you seen it and we seen it. The result is bridge camping, pre-arranged 8v8 in agramon. I think the population drop has had a big impact on this, it is not enough people circulating in RvR to make it worthwhile going to some off place camping as solo or small grp. There is no point taking a tower in a remote area with a few friends since noone will come to defend / retake it in a resonable time frame.
All this could change on such a server I described in the OP, don't you think?

cluster atm is drenched in whine about conflicting playstyles and whatnot, but other servers evolved into allowing several playstyles together. still it's a hassle because the game code doesn't really allow for it - that's why I say they should do a thorough overhaul of the rvr system to suit all different styles and add more people by massive advertising + clustering of existing servers.

I think other servers, as the ones in US and fr/gr had more players to start with. A server with 3000 players can house more playstyles then one with 1000.
I remember you could have quiet nice 1v1 and small scale RvR near the hibernian relic docks, the one closest to Aliliene ( sp? ). Now, I doubt that is possible, hence you stand only with the choice of going to DC bridge or Bled bridge, where you playstyle clash with the "zergers", "campers" and "siegers".

creating a new server would drain the existing ones even more, and sticking everyone on one big massive server is something the current game really wouldn't handle. think toa artifact camping but then a million times worse, everything would have to be instanced. that + constant server crashing.

Well the only option then draining servers and make people move to one big server is to have all people scattered.
You have a point about the PvE but since ppl can move their existing characters to the server, and where many people already have everything they will ever need I think that is something we could learn to live with, again.


This is quiet complicated. But I can not see how doing nothing is better. And to be frank mythic won't change what you call poor RvR scenary design ( wich I agree with you ), but all we can do as players is to have certain unofficial zones where certain types of warfare is conducted. As it is now, and been for a long while there isn't people to uphold that. People draw people as I said before, both in good and bad terms. If there is atleast people the frustrated solo guy will/have to go to the bridge even if he hates it, since there is NOONE going to DF, or traveling a route from say Keep to whatever PvE/artifact exp zone or dungeon in any larger extent.


Thoughts?

 

[Punishment]

Well having one or two homogen "super servers" with English as official language ... Thoughts?

So what u are suggesting is to make the vastly superior in numbers German+French playerbase play on a server which speaks the language that is only the 1st spoken language of 10% of the European playerbase

Dont see anyone going for that tbh

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

So what u are suggesting is to make the vastly superior in numbers German+French playerbase play on a server which speaks the language that is only the 1st spoken language of 10% of the European playerbase

Dont see anyone going for that tbh

Wanna read my post again or should I start quoting myself Puni

 

[Punishment]

Wanna read my post again or should I start quoting myself Puni

Go on ... u seem to enjoy it

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

Go on ... u seem to enjoy it

"super servers" with English as official language ( or a way to make the own client determine what language you have displayed )

There we go

 

[Punishment]

There we go

Thats the shit ... in yummy little bitesize portions .... YAY !!!111

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

Thats the shit ... in yummy little bitesize portions .... YAY !!!111

xD


Now come with some ideas, what could be done if you where the CEO of the company.


Btw, you gonna try Warhammer or AoC ( Age of Conan ) ? Personally I'm going with AoC, seems fucking immense

 

[Punishment]

xD


Now come with some ideas, what could be done if you where the CEO of the company.


Btw, you gonna try Warhammer or AoC ( Age of Conan ) ? Personally I'm going with AoC, seems fucking immense

Ill try em both tbh ... Im leaning towards Warhammer tho ... pity no stealthers tho