John Titor

[tris-]

http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/ interesting site explaining why all the theories about the end of the world being in 2012 are true. somehow got there off the john titor site.

 

[Dr_Gonzo]

Originally posted by doh_boy
Also the 2038 thing on unix isn't that another date thingy like the 2000-bug but this time its the amount of memory space put aside for holding the date is too small or something.

Yeah, unixen count time in number of seconds since jan 1st 1970, and a signed 32 bit int gives you a bit over 2 billion seconds, which takes you to 2038. Then it goes negative, and the NSA will crash again

 

[Wij]

I thought 2038 was GUID date ?

 

[Tom]

http://www.davidicke.com/ if ur into all this

 

[Wij]

omg - they aer all liek lizzardz !!! :uhoh:

 

[tris-]

http://www.freezone.de/english/mc/e_conv04.htm

is even better if you got a spare 5 hours

 

[Jonny_Darko]

Right, I have GOT to stop reading this stuff. It's twisting my head in knots and worrying me and I already worry too much without thinking about civil wars, alien lizards and mind-control chairs.























Pssst! Anyone got any more?

 

[Will]

Originally posted by nath
Religion is much more important in the future?

My arse, tbh.

The decline in religious belief in Western Europe alongside technological advancement is an exception rather than the norm. Quite a few countries, America being one of them, are becoming more religious.

 

[leggy]

Originally posted by Jonny_Darko
I already worry too much without thinking about civil wars, alien lizards and mind-control chairs.

Buffy is good for you ... honest :/

 

[Mr.Monkey]

I'm from the future.

Further in the future than Titor.
And in my time we know how sillly people like Titor thought they knew everything about time travel.

They were wrong.

Shortly after Titor went back to his original time, the planet earth was invaded by aliens, and defeated.
Humans spent the next one hundered years as slaves in the iron mines (iron is was used by the aliens to feed their young).

This only occured because people like Titor were unaware of the impact time travel has on the fabric of space time. It acts like a rock being dropped in water, spreading a ripple faster than the speed of light (because the signal is sent with particles call Tachyons), and this acted as a homing signal to the most aggresive of species in this galaxy.

Disclaimer:
I don't care if you believe me.
I won't tell you exactly when or how anything happens in the future, as it would prove me wrong.
I've come back in time, because I'm on holiday.
Yes, we use flux capacitors.

 

[tris-]

johhny, there is 100s of pages on that 1 site i told you, surely you havent read it all or is the government controling your mind!

 

[nath]

Originally posted by Mr.Monkey
Yes, we use flux capacitors.

but are they shaped like an Y and have lots of flashy lights?

 

[Mr.Monkey]

Originally posted by nath
but are they shaped like an Y and have lots of flashy lights?

Only the Premium model.
But then it's $5,000,000,000 (50p in your primative currency) more, for fairy lights.

 

[nath]

Originally posted by Will.
The decline in religious belief in Western Europe alongside technological advancement is an exception rather than the norm. Quite a few countries, America being one of them, are becoming more religious.

But you have to say that don't you

Thing is, I don't have a problem with religous beliefs, I just feel slightly disenchanted with religion as a whole because it seems to do more harm than good.

Well *it* doesn't do harm, psycho's use it as an excuse to do harm.

I dunno, I guess Chris Rock summed it up nicely in Dogma. Religious Ideas > Religious Beliefs.

Originally posted by Mr.Monkey
Only the Premium model.
But then it's $5,000,000,000 (50p in your primative currency) more, for fairy lights.

Uh, worth it tbh. You need the fairy lights, else you aint be gettin no respek.

 

[Jonny_Darko]

Nath, we may have discussed it before but you need to watch The Second Coming :/

 

[nath]

I did like the sound of that..

 

[Mr.Monkey]

Originally posted by nath
Uh, worth it tbh. You need the fairy lights, else you aint be gettin no respek.

I hate it when people dis my capacitor.

 

[SAS]

The main problem here is if he is telling the truth he has now contaminated our timeline.

There's a word for this, but I've forgotten it... if you believe something is going to happen, you'll end up finding a way to make it happen.

For example if you enter an interview thinking "I'm going to have a panic attack", then chances are you'll walk in there feeling like shit and could have one, but YOU are the one causing the problem not the situation!


This guy and nostrodamus keep bleeting on about arabs and similar things, and it causes us all to be paranoid and right now if something happens we all think "terrorists!". Basically things could get better, but we are now all expecting something big to happen...

And if this guy is speaking the truth, how do we not know he started this war? Coming back here telling us stuff and could be a terrorist?

 

[Wij]

I will only believe they are from the future if they've won the lottery. If not they are liars. Simple.

 

[MYstIC G]

Originally posted by SAS
There's a word for this, but I've forgotten it... if you believe something is going to happen, you'll end up finding a way to make it happen.

Is it not "paradox"

A leads to B leads to C leads to A

 

[nath]

Aye will. An interesting idea was in 12 Monkeys.

IIRC, it said you can't actually go back and change stuff. Everything is the way it is because that's how it happened. So the way that things are in 2036 for Titor, may well be that way because he has just come back and told everyone a bunch of crap, thus setting off a series of events etc. etc.

I kinda like that idea, it's nice and complete. None of that messy paradox business.

 

[Testin da Cable]

Originally posted by Wij
I will only believe they are from the future if they've won the lottery. If not they are liars. Simple.

muh. none of that "I wonder why you have never noticed eventX happening / eventY not happening" shite either. predict a future event exactly and I will believe. and no, predicting a massive p00 doesn't count

 

[Testin da Cable]

Originally posted by nath
None of that messy paradox business.

what was that again?

go back in time and kill your younger self. will you no longer exist? NO. YES? wtf? paradoxen teh rock!!

 

[Wij]

The mindless urge must be controlled. It is locked into forms, shackled rhythmically into pulses and stretched across cruel notches until the urge cannot recognise itself. The forms are set at an angle of 114.59155733332331718 to each other in an arc that loops back on itself every 9.549296444 solar years. Thus the urge can cycle in dissonance with certain souls and cause them to shine in cross-harmony with time.

My soul shines. On a clear night you can see it if you see beyond the regular spectrum of light. If you see it I will see you and know your past, present and future. The anti-matter generated may kill the important parts of your soul though. You will be left as a slave, not to my will but to the mindless urge that beats within me unfettered by the forms.

Plato predicted me. That's why he is imprisoned at right-angles to your primitive vision along with Moses, Jesus and Mohammed whose souls could shine but only with white-noise. Not with the chords that mine can.

You know my face already.

It is the one who laughs back at you from every mirror.

The urge.

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by nath
IIRC, it said you can't actually go back and change stuff. Everything is the way it is because that's how it happened.

But that implies that your future is predetermined by fate, and that you have no control over your actions. I don't like the sound of that myself.

 

[Mr.Monkey]

Originally posted by Testin da Cable
what was that again?

go back in time and kill your younger self. will you no longer exist? NO. YES? wtf? paradoxen teh rock!!

Titor claimed that the mutli-universe scenario is true (a prediction made by quantum mechanics, around about world war one time. Nothing new, but very hard to prove experimentally. Quantum computers will be evidence if they ar ever made to work).

In very basic terms it's a bit like that TV show, sliders. But with time travel too.

You go back in time, but not your exact universe. One that is a little different. Possible the difference is so small it can't be noticed (i.e the motion of one atom is different in the entire universe, over all time).
So if you go back and kill your dad before you were born, it would make no difference, as you killed him in a parallel universe. So you'd go back to your universe, and your dad would still be alive (and probably a little worried that you go about killing him in other universes).

But if this theory is correct, it turns titor into a liar. He claims he is going back to "fix" things. And for the reasons stated, you can't affect your own universe. Hence you would be only fixing one universe, when there are an infinite amount.

Pretty conclusive evidence that it's a hoax imho.

 

[Wij]

Originally posted by Tom[SHOTTEH]
But that implies that your future is predetermined by fate, and that you have no control over your actions. I don't like the sound of that myself.

You are wrong. I have answered this subject on these forums before. However, you were fated to say it so I cannot feel malice for you. Only pity for your shackled existence.

 

[nath]

Originally posted by Tom[SHOTTEH]
But that implies that your future is predetermined by fate, and that you have no control over your actions. I don't like the sound of that myself.

Yeah, it's kinda depressing if you think about it in that way.

But it fits. And I kinda believe it. Well, not fate in the destiny sense of the word. More like, it was always going to happen that way because at the end of the day, everything is based on the rules of physics. One thing affects another, I don't think there's really any choice that sets of a reaction, the illusion of choice is merely a complex display of cause and effect.

(imo)

Of course, it doesn't have to be depressing. You could think of it as a rollercoaster ride, sit back and enjoy. See where it goes.

Originally posted by Wij
I have answered this subject on these forums before.

lol.

 

[dysfunction]

Originally posted by nath
One thing affects another, I don't think there's really any choice that sets of a reaction, the illusion of choice is merely a complex display of cause and effect.

Thats almost a direct quote from The Matrix Reloaded...

 

[Wij]

I shall bring the forums back now.