News Iran car explosion kills nuclear scientist in Tehran

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-16501566

Wtf. Makes you think about what's going on under the surface.

Also, notice how the title of the news story in no way highlights the fact he was ASSASSINATED by two assassins on a motorbike with a magnetic bomb.

Ridiculous.

Do you think we can blame Iran for all the hating some times ? :coffee:
 

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Nope, hate doesn't just pop up and these kind of things don't help.

but, war pays the bills.
 

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Aye, but what shitty news reports a fairly high-tech assassination as a "Car explosion" in the headline ?
 

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Well yeah that too, i tend to skip headlines etc and most of the propaganda and read between the lines :D

People who think western media is unbiased needs a reality check.

There's always propaganda.
 

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Murder of Iranian scientists by states (i.e. nuclear armed and totally religiously batty Israel) has been going on for years, unfortunately.
 

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It was Israel that did it.

America will stand by hand wringing a bit, they don't want to upset poor old Israel though.
 

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Have to agree there, as far as speculation goes, you probably wouldn't know if the US did it as the guy would most likely just disappear.

Ofcourse there's the possibility of anti-nuke peeps doing it.
 

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I think Israel did it because they're first in the queue of countries Iran doesn't like. IF Iran got military grade fissile material, and IF they managed to make a weapon from it, Israel would more than likely be their first target.
 

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I think Israel did it because they're first in the queue of countries Iran doesn't like. IF Iran got military grade fissile material, and IF they managed to make a weapon from it, Israel would more than likely be their first target.

Franky, I think talk of a "first target" is bordering on madness. Yep, the nukes would be aimed at Israel just like Israel has it's many nukes aimed at all of the arab states. But not as a first strike option. Iran wants nukes to make itself uninvadeable.

Israel still worries me more.
 

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Killed two people in the car as well and a pedestrian nearby, if that happened over here, it would start a war, we'd agonise over every detail, weeping relatives, horrified politicians.
But of course they're just brown people who live far,far away.
I always wonder, in a nuclear weapons plant, there must be apoint where they test the weapon one last time, right up to ignition, to make sure it all works...that must be a nerve racking button to push.
 

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Killed two people in the car as well and a pedestrian nearby, if that happened over here, it would start a war, we'd agonise over every detail, weeping relatives, horrified politicians.
But of course they're just brown people who live far,far away.
Never Understood this attitude. Do you think the average guy in Iran gave a shite about the 7 7 bombings?
 

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Exactly, we don't give a shite about EACH other, that's the first requirement for war.
 

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Two quotes from not-unintelligent Albert:

Einstein said:
Force always attracts men of low morality

and

Einstein said:
It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder

Seems we agree :)

Edit: Oops - 3 quotes:

Einstein said:
Nothing will end war unless the people themselves refuse to go to war
 

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I honestly dont give a shit on the large scale, in the personal scale it's bad for the bloke and sorry for him I suppose, though as someone else said I very much doubt whether anyone in Iran gave a fuck when we get bombed.

I'd much rather everyone in Iran was blown up than them dropping nukes on us.
 

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Fingers crossed, eh?
 

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Post-nuclear world yes please ;)

And i don't mean the "ooh remove all nukeplants and weapons" hippie kind of bullsh*t post-nuclear :D
 

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What makes me chuckle is that it would take less than 1% of all nuclear warheads currently stockpiled by various nations to obliterate absolutely all life on Earth.#

Edit: *Waits for Wazz and Ch3t to start in about "making up stats"...*
 

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Nuclear war might probably see off many higher animals, humans would survive and certainly lots of things at the bottom of the sea, most lifeforms would simply mutate to the new conditions.
Most of the world wouldn't even feel a blast, the fallout would poison and the environmental disturbance would kill billions, but hardly wipe everything out.

"In the autumn of 1940 London was blitzed by an average of two hundred aircraft a night for sixty-one consecutive nights until finally the tables turned. On July 27, 1943 nearly a thousand British bombers dropped over two thousand tons of bombs on Hamburg, most of them incendiaries, turning that city into a burning, melting quagmire of horror. The temperature reached one thousand degrees in the center of town, igniting the world's first firestorm. The superheated air rose so fast it sucked in outside air in the form of hurricane-strength winds which force-fed the fire still further and blew helpless people like leaves into the burning center of destruction where they actually melted into pools of burning fat. On the outskirts of the storm other people were stuck in molten asphalt, suffocating and igniting. More than 40,000 people died that night. In the early spring of 1945 the American Twentieth Air Force topped the RAF's record by burning Tokyo, starting a conflagration that totaled sixteen square miles of intensely populated city, killing more than 80,000 people
 

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You're a tit Job.

The Blitz would be nothing like a nuclear bombardment. Nothing we've ever seen would...
 

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You're a tit Job.

The Blitz would be nothing like a nuclear bombardment. Nothing we've ever seen would...
Gotta agree. TNT based explosives (WWII) are nothing compared to nuclear. For a start you have a much bigger blast radius and then the radiation. Drop 40 bombs across the UK and you can pretty much state that life, apart from the cockroaches and Scouse, will be wiped out.
 

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TNT and other chemical explosives don't come close to nuclear weapons.

I think Job needs to do some research.

But ofc, research is for noobs. Everyone knows you should just copy/paste other peoples work!
 

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Lets hope they'll get the other ones as well. Iran has no business owning anything with the letters n, u, c, l, e, a and r in it.
You simply don't mess with the Zohan.
 

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To be fair, neither does Israel.
 

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Like the US is any better? Let's remember, use of nukes on people;

US 2 - 0 Rest of World.
 

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I see, Job needs to do some research when you'rs is clearly based upon..'OMGZD NUKES, we all gonna die'.
The blast radius of a nuke at best 20 miles, so forty dropped on the UK is hardly going to render all life vapourised.
Most nukes now are in the 50-300kt range, the megatoners are rare, you can do more damage with a precision strike low yeild weapon.
The Earth is HUUGE, unless the worlds nuclear powers started on a joint mission to destroy as much as possible, vast areas of the Earth would be untouched, Australian outback, South American and North American widerness, 90% of Canada, not to mention all the Pacific Island states, Greenland, Mongolia, The WHOLE of Africa.
Russian wilderness. No-ones pointing nukes in those areas and there is a decent enough population to organise surving the climatic catastrophe i.e. nuclear winter.
 

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Nuclear winter is not just a bit of a chill in the air.

It's when everyone's hair and teeth fall out and everyone develops fatal cancers. Depending on atmospheric conditions, the fallout can be spread for hundreds of miles.

You do understand that a nuclear weapon doesn't just make a really really big bang don't you?
 

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