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[Bahumat]

I get angry, and i find the only way to project anger while remaining grammatically correct on a forum is to drop some names into the mix. Just my way see?

you NEED us to occasionally swing by and help you on your little tower or keep takes, when theres a pbaoe group in the lord room and you just cant figure out how to win because youve never had to think, just mash buttons randomly, safe in the knowledge that the zerg will protect you

haha, here's my opportunity to flame you with next to no knowledge about you.

I bet you beat women and you feel good after you done it, you know its wrong but its just your way.....see?

also you are probably really condesending and patronising, i mean come on, Poor little Rickie probably cant press the buttons too well incase she hurts her nails, all that thinking must give her a headache! thats pretty much what your saying but its not just 1 person your insulting!

All you have done is shown the community what your true colours are.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Ps: Ofc there are plenty of "RvR groups" that run and add on soloers and gank them and they should be treated the same as the "free for all" people but there actually are some groups and some players that only play for the 8vs8 and 1on1 so please let them do that?

I'd like to run around the frontier without being attacked by anyone so I can look at the pretty flowers but noone lets me !!!!!111oneone!

It's a cruel world out there.

(and tbh I'd be surprised if there was any of these 8v8 groups that haven't been one of the "RvR groups" in the past - it's all very easy to be magnanimous and high and mighty when you're already up there but don't forget who you were treading on on the way up)

 

[Flimgoblin]

Heh I have had evenenings that we barely have gotten any rps at all just because we don´t add on fights.

yet what RR are you?

Adding gives you lots of RP yet the people that seem to whine most about adders are all high RR in gank groups... something doesn't add up there.

 

[Jupitus]

Goes to show how good your argument is if you have to resort to insults. But anyway.

If it was all about "fair fights" then why are so many of these people that scream "don't add" when they see a fellow realm mate found camping bridges or dropoffs or the route to keep sieges or hunting around PoC whenever there's no 8v8 action around... or being "honourable" and flattening that soloer because "they might add on us later!" - don't deny this doesn't happen I'd be very surprised if you or your group has never done this.

I love that quote: "since adding became lame" - so basically back when you happily added on every fight and zerged with the rest adding was ok - it wasn't lame then, but nowadays when you have your perfect little 8v8 opted group having anyone else turn up during your fight (in the "realm versus realm" zones - not the 8v8 battlegrounds) is "lame" and worthy of a truckload of abuse.

As for "the way the game is meant to be played" when was the last time you saw rules on kill stealing in RvR? When did the /help include "RvR is a place where groups of 8 people run around killing each other and respectfully avoiding treading on other peoples toes. There is a radius of 3000 around every group fight in progress, if you enter this please respect the people fighting and stand around with your thumb up your arse till they finish."

The game is "Realm versus Realm" - if you click on an enemy group they show up as enemies whether they're mid gank-group orgy or not. You get "rewards" as in realm points for killing them.

All this adding rubbish only came about recently - before then it was whining about anyone running with more than 1fg, but it's all just the same - "play the way I say you should play so I can win more".

If you can't see it as that then you're sadly deluded

Incidentally I'm not telling you to start adding on fights if you don't want to or start zerging - do what you want - I'll not shout abuse at you if you leave me to get gibbed by some RR12 stealther that mugs me - I might think yer a twat but I'll not go whining at you.

Play the game how you want to just don't force your weirdo playstyle on everyone else.

Rep for Flim from me (not because I think he cares about rep, but because it seems to be a language you folks in here understand).

And just to add (hahaha!!! a little gem of humour!!!), it is precisely because it is not in any way against the rules of the game that we brought in the 'add whine' clause to the FH CoC.... I'm pondering extending it to individual add whiners, not just add whine threads ....

/ponder

 

[fenrisan]

People will play as they want

People will always whine

Accept it and move on

 

[Eleasias]

Skip 1 fight a night? You know we're missing on atleast 20-60k RP's a night depending how many groups are out by not adding on fights, adding with a caster group can get you the majority of the RP's from the fight actually. If you have a random group at a bridge, and theres an enemy group inc, what excactly makes them offguard in that scenario, the fact that someone told them not to add on their fight previously? If they see 1fg vs 1fg, then they might be offguard but if they arent adding, then they have time to move out and get away or in case they are adding, the first group might pull out and the adding grp doesnt get the easy rp's.

 

[Flimgoblin]

fwiw my (modding) policy on it tends to be:

whine at someone/some group/some realm for adding = bad
(e.g. ffs you albs and especially you flimgoblin! damned adders!)

talk about the morality of adding and the like = ok
(e.g. I think adding is poo!)


That said jjuraa and eleasias could probably do with learning how to communicate without using the word "retard" in every sentence.

 

[xxManiacxx]

yet what RR are you?

Adding gives you lots of RP yet the people that seem to whine most about adders are all high RR in gank groups... something doesn't add up there.

My SB is RR8l7 after 3 years
My Skald went from 4l0 to 7l5 in about 5-6months
My SM is RR6l7 after prob 5-6 months aswell.

In all the RvR groups I have been in we have started of as low RRs and maintained the same rule all along "don´t add on fg vs fg fights". Sometimes it has failed for different reasons but that´s the rule we have had and I will always have that rule in any kind of group I run in.

 

[Flimgoblin]

If they see 1fg vs 1fg, then they might be offguard but if they arent adding, then they have time to move out and get away or in case they are adding, the first group might pull out and the adding grp doesnt get the easy rp's.

and the poor low-rr pug that was being hammered by the gank group doesn't get any help from the other low-rr pug. Guaranteed win for the gank group.

 

[fl3a]

when i used to play my mincer on rvr i leeched everything because i was helping out, sometimes people would be elitist but then again sometimes they would be grateful, i had someone stand next to me and watch me die before he attacked the person on me, pissed me off royaly!

it seems to me that leeching on everything because you are helping out is kind of like walking on the street and seeing a 1on1 basketball game and running off to guard one of the players, simply because you want to help out. after all, he is of your nationality!!

now yes, i know adding is not agaisnt the rules of the game and that there should be mighty zerg rvr fights all the time and stuff like that, but i think what mythic doesnt realise is that daoc has the best group pvp system so far in a mmorpg. and they are wasting it on some fucking zerglings.

 

[eggy]

and the poor low-rr pug that was being hammered by the gank group doesn't get any help from the other low-rr pug. Guaranteed win for the gank group.

Not if the crossbow panda is in the group!!!

Your search - crossbow panda - did not match any documents.

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Found this when I searched for "dangerous panda" though:

Edit: I just rep-PLed you 14 points. I must be more careful with my rep spending!!

 

[Eleasias]

yet what RR are you?

Adding gives you lots of RP yet the people that seem to whine most about adders are all high RR in gank groups... something doesn't add up there.

My sorc is 4L7, made approx. 20-30k a night with the regular group we try to run now, the day before I made 70k in a random group camping tower and hardly doing anything myself either. I joined them out of pure boredom and I'm never joining them again because of their playstyle.

 

[Haggus]

rr helps... but not ALOT

You need skill and experiance more than rr.

 

[Flimgoblin]

My Skald went from 4l0 to 7l5 in about 5-6months
My SM is RR6l7 after prob 5-6 months aswell.

In all the RvR groups I have been in we have started of as low RRs and maintained the same rule all along "don´t add on fg vs fg fights". Sometimes it has failed for different reasons but that´s the rule we have had and I will always have that rule in any kind of group I run in.

Can't be that bad RP from not adding then

Then again "don't add on fg vs fg fights" doesn't stop you flattening duos or trios or farming the clusters of soloers around bridges so I guess it's not going to affect things too much if you don't jump in for a share of the rps on some 8v8 fights.

 

[Rickie]

I get angry, and i find the only way to project anger while remaining grammatically correct on a forum is to drop some names into the mix. Just my way see?

Oh I see... then it MUST be correct!

You think youre the first one to think of 8v8 instances? youre not, mythic have considered it. you know why they wont do it? because if you introduce 8v8 instances, then we (we being all the fgs that enjoy fair fights) would leave, and start instancing. great for us, bad for you (you being the zerging masses) bad for you because you NEED us to occasionally swing by and help you on your little tower or keep takes, when theres a pbaoe group in the lord room and you just cant figure out how to win because youve never had to think, just mash buttons randomly, safe in the knowledge that the zerg will protect you

I dont think I stated it was my idea tbh... you need to get your head out your ass.
And as for me .... I would love to see all the "Im so up to my ears in honour so dont get any near me"- ppl disaper in some instant cous its realy not them who swing by to aid to solo- lowRR-players at any time afaik.

Tbh Jjuraa, - im sure your a smart guy running with your friends in your 8v8 grp... realy ..I am! But it would realy come in handy for you if you knew how to behave whitout assulting and namecalling evryone who dont see your way as the only way.

/mum

 

[gwal]

theres different ways to have fun in this game.

pve ppl grow angry if others come ruin their dragon hunt, steal their camp spot, etc

hardcore rvr ppl grow annoyed when ppl do add on their fights

it may just be a game, but the object of it is to have fun, and no matter how u play, there is a certain "goal" u have, somehting that must happen, in order for u to have fun.
when others ruin ur fun, its annoying.. rp whores or not, the end result is that by adding on 8vs8 (or 1vs1), often u will find urself ruining what might have been an exciting fight, and what is the basis for fun to a lot of ppl.

no wonder some yell at u for it

 

[Flimgoblin]

rr helps... but not ALOT

You need skill and experiance more than rr.

indeed - and bleh thought you were jjurraa there damned avatar-clones.

Either way the pug is lacking (as well as in group coordination - might not even have voicecomms - and group setup)

 

[Eleasias]

and the poor low-rr pug that was being hammered by the gank group doesn't get any help from the other low-rr pug. Guaranteed win for the gank group.

And your point is, if we cant beat them, lets outnumber them? And it's a rare night you can actually see 2 different low rr pugs from a realm anymore, basicly everyone is atleast average RR by now. Pug adding on a pug vs gg fight isnt all that bad really, its when you fight one of the top groups from the other realm and they get extra 8 people to "help" them, but nowadays the other group would pull out and the adders hopefully get killed.

 

[eggy]

End of the day, you can't (well, you can, but it's a bit hypnocritical) flame someone who 'adds' or 'zergs' if that's what they want to do. There is no rule saying you can't do either of those things. In fact, there is probably more of a reason to add, seing as it wouldn't be in the spirit of a MMORPG to run past enemies and not attack.

Personal view: people can play however they want; I'll never whine/flame about people "adding", but I also will try not to do it myself if I'm driving a group.

 

[Angrist]

So we've come to the point were u have to use /filter to avoid getting flamed ingame.. It's indeed sad times for daoc, should be possible to simply say plz dont add (or whatever) instead of retording to abusive/offensive language.

 

[Flimgoblin]

And it's a rare night you can actually see 2 different low rr pugs from a realm anymore,

There's a reason for that...

Pug vs gg has little chance. Therefore people in pugs die lots and give up.

pug vs gg with another pug joining in (think back to massive melees in the bowl) there's a good chance for the pug's to have some fun in there, they might still lose of course as a good gg should still do well aginst 2 pugs, but the second pug has been whined at so much by the gank groups in their realm that they don't bother helping out - so the first pug gets gibbed, gets frustrated and quits.

This is (my theory) why you don't see many low rr pugs around anymore

 

[Flimgoblin]

So we've come to the point were u have to use /filter to avoind getting flamed ingame.. It's indeed sad times for daoc, should be possible to simply say plz dont add (or whatever) instead of retording to abusive/offensive language.

that's a good point

if someone in gank group #456 /send "heya, having a 8v8 fight here, would you mind not joining in - we just want to test our skills and stuff without outside assistance" or words to that effect I'd be far more inclined to stand out of the way and watch than if they /send "fs n00bs don't add!"

 

[eggy]

This is (my theory) why you don't see many low rr pugs around anymore

I have a different theory involving Scott Tracy and fishfingers.

But I'd prefer not to talk about that right now.

Spoiler

 

[Bahumat]

it seems to me that leeching on everything because you are helping out is kind of like walking on the street and seeing a 1on1 basketball game and running off to guard one of the players, simply because you want to help out. after all, he is of your nationality!!

now yes, i know adding is not agaisnt the rules of the game and that there should be mighty zerg rvr fights all the time and stuff like that, but i think what mythic doesnt realise is that daoc has the best group pvp system so far in a mmorpg. and they are wasting it on some fucking zerglings.

i was on a minstrel half templated and only ml3 so i never got groups as there were better classes/templated+ml'd mincers about

i knew a couple of RL friends on the server so being a nobody never helped my chances in getting groups, un sc'd mincers have a hard time what with all the stealthers about so my only real targets were solo casters. Thats the reason why i would add in fights, sometimes it would be an aoe mezz or demezz and thats it, ofc sometimes i would dd 1 guy, stun and smack the next one then dd another but i never made much rp's from it anyway.

 

[Rediknight]

Jjuraa is a prime example of someone who needs to chill the f*ck out a bit and stop taking everything so seriously. Eleasias you need to watch your mouth - calling people a "Goddam retard!!" just makes you come across as American and ignorant.

I don't like Buffbots, PLing, selling accounts/cash/items on Ebay. I don't like being steamrollered by 8 buff'n'twink trolls when im solo in thid with my unbuffed, untwinked, played AS THE GAME INTENDED, but you see me making thread after thread about other players lack of skill, or question their mental ability? Nope...

DO you think for one minute that me whining about this would make any one of these things change? No. Do you think anyone actually has enough balls to talk the same as they do on here to the persons face? Don't try and say "yeah!" cos it hold all the weight of your original tirades.

Not just you two, but i'll pick up on your names for the relevance, and the thread that im posting in = you're both rude little f*ckers with a really high opinion of yourselves, and are trying to prove it and gain "respect" from a group of people you don't know, and who don't particularly care. Now, grow up and stop acting like such a pair of spoilt, overopinionated little f*ck-nuggets and actually try to add soemthing constructive? maybe?

If someone wants to add, they add - nothin you can do to stop it. I add sometimes, if i feel like it - you gonna start calling me a retard now? You want to call me a retard, not knowing how many friends or family i have that in RL are actually retarded? Want to know what my life is like living with people who suffer a brain disorder?

You're arguing about ficticious rewards, in a ficticious game, in a world that DOESN'T EXIST, yet you feel it necessary to insult and belittle the people who make up this community. Are you like this in RL? If someone in a pub, sat on another table said something that you didn't agree with, would you jump out of your seat and scream, "YOU F*CKING RETARD!!!" then? I seriously doubt it, cos your next word would probably be, "ambulance!"

Get a grip, both of you, and anyone else who feels it's necessary to resort to insults and threats in a forum, first consider who you're insulting, then think how you would feel if someone spoke to you in that way.

Then, if you still feel the need to fire a shit-missile at someone for something they did in a game, go and do something else - have a cuppa, have a smoke, have a chocolate cake - just chill out and remember it's only a f*cking game!!!!

I'm done with this thread...

 

[eggy]

Jjuraa is a prime example of someone who needs to chill the f*ck out a bit and stop taking everything so seriously. Eleasias you need to watch your mouth - calling people a "Goddam retard!!" just makes you come across as American and ignorant.

I don't like Buffbots, PLing, selling accounts/cash/items on Ebay. I don't like being steamrollered by 8 buff'n'twink trolls when im solo in thid with my unbuffed, untwinked, played AS THE GAME INTENDED, but you see me making thread after thread about other players lack of skill, or question their mental ability? Nope...

DO you think for one minute that me whining about this would make any one of these things change? No. Do you think anyone actually has enough balls to talk the same as they do on here to the persons face? Don't try and say "yeah!" cos it hold all the weight of your original tirades.

Not just you two, but i'll pick up on your names for the relevance, and the thread that im posting in = you're both rude little f*ckers with a really high opinion of yourselves, and are trying to prove it and gain "respect" from a group of people you don't know, and who don't particularly care. Now, grow up and stop acting like such a pair of spoilt, overopinionated little f*ck-nuggets and actually try to add soemthing constructive? maybe?

If someone wants to add, they add - nothin you can do to stop it. I add sometimes, if i feel like it - you gonna start calling me a retard now? You want to call me a retard, not knowing how many friends or family i have that in RL are actually retarded? Want to know what my life is like living with people who suffer a brain disorder?

You're arguing about ficticious rewards, in a ficticious game, in a world that DOESN'T EXIST, yet you feel it necessary to insult and belittle the people who make up this community. Are you like this in RL? If someone in a pub, sat on another table said something that you didn't agree with, would you jump out of your seat and scream, "YOU F*CKING RETARD!!!" then? I seriously doubt it, cos your next word would probably be, "ambulance!"

Get a grip, both of you, and anyone else who feels it's necessary to resort to insults and threats in a forum, first consider who you're insulting, then think how you would feel if someone spoke to you in that way.

Then, if you still feel the need to fire a shit-missile at someone for something they did in a game, go and do something else - have a cuppa, have a smoke, have a chocolate cake - just chill out and remember it's only a f*cking game!!!!

I'm done with this thread...

BEST FH POST EVER!?!?

 

[Eleasias]

There's a reason for that...

Pug vs gg has little chance. Therefore people in pugs die lots and give up.

pug vs gg with another pug joining in (think back to massive melees in the bowl) there's a good chance for the pug's to have some fun in there, they might still lose of course as a good gg should still do well aginst 2 pugs, but the second pug has been whined at so much by the gank groups in their realm that they don't bother helping out - so the first pug gets gibbed, gets frustrated and quits.

This is (my theory) why you don't see many low rr pugs around anymore

After years of playing the game, or even just a couple of months of rvr, people should know who the gank groups are and avoid adding on their fights? The most annoying adds are the ones that come from your own side because theres nothing you can do about them but pull from the fight, when you get enemy adds, you can atleast fight them.

So if you know the group in that fight from your realm is a group that wants to play 8vs8, dont add, if you see its a completely random pug (most groups on UK cluster ARE pugs atm, just others are more random and others quite a bit less) that would actually think you are HELPING them in the fight, instead of ruining their fun, then go ahead and add. But if you add on a person/group/guild that has told you before that dont add on their fights, you should learn from it and not add, and if you do except to get flamed, pretty simple.

 

[Haggus]

indeed - and bleh thought you were jjurraa there damned avatar-clones.

Either way the pug is lacking (as well as in group coordination - might not even have voicecomms - and group setup)

I nearly gave you rep for pressing the wrong button

Sowwy >.<

 

[xxManiacxx]

Can't be that bad RP from not adding then

Then again "don't add on fg vs fg fights" doesn't stop you flattening duos or trios or farming the clusters of soloers around bridges so I guess it's not going to affect things too much if you don't jump in for a share of the rps on some 8v8 fights.

"Adders and zergers" get from RR1 to RR7 faster then that.

And our "rule" includes not ganking soloers etc aswell. I am a soloer so I know how irritating that can be but I also know that Agramon isnt the place to be when solo.

But I guess that an adder and zerger will never know how it is. Its them that play for DA ARPEES more then the RvR groups and soloers.

 

[Eleasias]

You're arguing about ficticious rewards, in a ficticious game, in a world that DOESN'T EXIST, yet you feel it necessary to insult and belittle the people who make up this community. Are you like this in RL?

The only ones who bring up the RP argument all the time are the adders actually, I argue because adders are ruining my fun, NOT my "fictious rewards" but the actual enjoyment of playing the game. If I was playing a game of hockey for example, and just some random guys decide to jump in on EITHER side I'd "whine" at them yeah.