Insta Mezz

[Jika]

what will be the outcome if they would remove insta mezz from bards?

discuss.

mate .. are u idiot, idiot or idiot ?

 

[Tay]

lol insta ae is sux.... u guys ever though of how long it lasts vs a det4/5 tank ? 90% off all pac healers wouldnt use that vs another grp unless he hes got no other alternative.. or atleast that how i feel about it.

Undskyld So rr6l4 healer

If it is crap why bother using it?

We have heard that instas are shite, never any good, but I have sat and watched fight and fight after fight from a nice safe place stealthed with my infil and watched grp after grp get wiped becasue of this crap thing.

Its quite laughable.

AE CC: Does it win every fight, I doubt it very much, does it make a serious impact in RVR Oh yes.

 

[Tay]

Insta's are crap, they just happen to be useful crap Cast AOE mezz is very good, and sorc's have the best of that, where healers/bards have complete shite. On an open field, in keep/mg combat, a sorc should win every time. In hilly terrain, it all depends on whose faster with the insta button, healer, bard or yes believe it or not, minstrel. The real fuckup, is that Mid have 3 demezzers in optimum group, if they gave Alb another demezzer I think it would make a massive difference. And hib, bah, but at least GP makes up for that.

So in a word are instas crap? = No.

 

[judas]

amneisa>sorc mezz

 

[Runolas]

...The real fuckup, is that Mid have 3 demezzers in optimum group

I thought it would be 5...with 3xHealer+2xSM

 

[nol]

So in a word are instas crap? = No.

yes

 

[nol]

I thought it would be 5...with 3xHealer+2xSM

could be, if optimum group has changed, I haven't been out to rvr for 5 months. Only thing I know is mids have many, many more demezzers.

 

[Tay]

yes

tks

 

[Aeicaan]

love it when they say insta's are crap...you say its crap yet you use it all the time to farm those warders...just lazieness that since against unskilled foes you can easily get a normal mez off. *shrug* just my observation.

well if any sorc or even alb could play on exc ppl wouldnt be so lazy and use instas, you _never_ use ae insta vs a good grp and if you even use it its because "ah well they suck anyway not even worth the cast time"

 

[Clipse]

Close this thread already, there is nothing more to discuss. Midd & Hibb >> Albion in CC terms. Fact. Comments on Lazy/crap/afk sorcs is an opinion. A non-fact !

The discussion is complete. Close the thread now.

 

[Filip]

On the whole it is harder to make a well balanced group in alb but the fact that everyone chooses retarded specs doesnt help, there is absolutly no point in having a 2h pallie but there is hundreds of them, sure make a class to have fun with but dont cry if the fun spec isnt the spec that wins.

quote from raven ...

i seen 1 2h pally in the last month's ...dunno where you get those hundred's from .. and to find a none fotm spec in alb is just as rare as in the other realms..... aka the thane,frair,champ.....

how many matter spec'ed sorc's you think alb got ?

where do you get your silly idea's from ?

 

[Clipse]

don't discuss it Filip. Its finished. Hibbs and Midds have insta-mezz, Albs dont. End of subject.

 

[Aeicaan]

don't discuss it Filip. Its finished. Hibbs and Midds have insta-mezz, Albs dont. End of subject.

ooh goodie, now i know that, didnt know that before this 10-11 page thread

 

[Clipse]

yeah- well stop whining about it then.

 

[Gordonax]

In hilly terrain, it all depends on whose faster with the insta button, healer, bard or yes believe it or not, minstrel.

Minstrel's got insta aoe mezz? Did I miss something?

 

[Danya]

could be, if optimum group has changed, I haven't been out to rvr for 5 months. Only thing I know is mids have many, many more demezzers.

Invite more mentalists to groups imo!

Minstrel's got insta aoe mezz? Did I miss something?

Think he means insta stun (which if you hit the bard with can be quite effective).

 

[nol]

Minstrel's got insta aoe mezz? Did I miss something?

yes mate, you did miss something you missed the spot where I said Insta, and not insta aoe mezz, minstrels have many insta's

 

[Gordonax]

yes mate, you did miss something you missed the spot where I said Insta, and not insta aoe mezz, minstrels have many insta's

Pah, serves me right for half-reading while I'm working

 

[rure]

must be one sucky bard if he cant get of insta mezz before minstrel gets of his stun

 

[Danya]

must be one sucky bard if he cant get of insta mezz before minstrel gets of his stun

If you stumble on each other it's all about who hits the button first...

 

[nol]

must be one sucky bard if he cant get of insta mezz before minstrel gets of his stun

that would be because a bards insta is more insta then a minstrels?

 

[Danya]

It's cos bard's insta is insta purge + ae deathtouch, didn't you even know that nol?

 

[Raven]

It's cos bard's insta is insta purge + ae deathtouch, didn't you even know that nol?

not before they have fed the dog, washed the car, cleaned the dishes and done the shopping, all on one quick bar

 

[nol]

It's cos bard's insta is insta purge + ae deathtouch, didn't you even know that nol?

OMG, I was using ST insta the whole time

 

[Bracken]

if they gave Alb another demezzer I think it would make a massive difference.

Fair comment. And I know just the class I'd like THAT on

 

[swords]

Fair comment. And I know just the class I'd like THAT on

how would an arms do that pray?
something like this!

''OI STOP PISSING ABOUT DROOLING AND GET KICKING ARSE!''

 

[rure]

that would be because a bards insta is more insta then a minstrels?

yes ofc m8.

no rly.. if a bard cant get off his insta mezz before minstrel stuns him (if its head to head) he should practice playing bard. because of 2 reasons, minstrel has to click the bard (usually pritty easy since he is always leading) but the bard can click anyone in the group. and due to the fact that mincer stun is 700 range and bards instamezz is 1500 range.

 

[Danya]

Fair comment. And I know just the class I'd like THAT on

Pity demezz wasn't cleric to start with - it seems a much more natural class to put it on than minstrel. With the short range instas and melee spec a minstrel tends to need to get in close to do much, not where you want your demezzer really.

 

[nol]

yes ofc m8.

no rly.. if a bard cant get off his insta mezz before minstrel stuns him (if its head to head) he should practice playing bard. because of 2 reasons, minstrel has to click the bard (usually pritty easy since he is always leading) but the bard can click anyone in the group. and due to the fact that mincer stun is 700 range and bards instamezz is 1500 range.

I said close contact like hilly terrain, if it's open terrain and the bard has range, then you can be guaranteed that the sorcer has better range. Which means the bard is trying to target the sorcer who is running at the back(not easy) with lull, stopped and faced, all the while the mincer is charging at the bard to land stun. I just see excuses here.

 

[Gordonax]

I said close contact like hilly terrain, if it's open terrain and the bard has range, then you can be guaranteed that the sorcer has better range.

Hmm that's not *quite* true. The only time a sorc has the upper hand is if the range at which you spot the enemy is between 1500 and 1750 AND there's no time for the enemy to close to within 1500 in the time it takes the sorc to cast - which obviously depends on the cast speed of the sorc. I've no idea of actually distance (in units) you can cover in three seconds at speed 5, but I'd guess that the actual ranges where a sorc has a clear advantage are pretty minimal. It could be as little as ranges between 1700 and 1750, which is a pretty rare event.
And of course, if it's closer than 1500 but more than 700 - which I'd guess is probably the ranges that most groups actually meet each other - the insta mezz gives you a decided advantage, all other things being equal. It's only when you hit spot each other when you're right on top of each other that that the mincer gives Alb any kind of advantage, and even then it's down to who's quicker on the insta button.