Insta Ae mez

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old.Odysseus

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afaik chainstun nerf was 1.52, lowering the chance of procs.
as it is now, I must get 4 pets going before I have any reasonable chance of getting a reliable proc.

http://www.camelotherald.com/more/447.php :
- Increased the run speed of Theurgist air and earth summons.

- Theurgist air pets have been tuned so that they stun a bit less in RvR, but retain a normal PvE stun rate. Previously, the high chance of the stun proc firing in RvR combined with a lack of a recast timer made the pet able to chain stun RvR targets.
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the lord giveth and the lord taketh away.
 
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belth

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Originally posted by old.Xanthian
If you really wanna start comparing classes, hows this:

Bolt Spec Casters
Void Eldritch = "Shit" as in HAS utility
Fire Wizard = "Uber" as in no utility

DoT Spec Caster
Mentalist = so,so, cause he can heal, cc, can get pet, lvl48 BASEline DoT, AoEDot
Cabalist = Uber DoT + Pet - pet has no resists etc, BASEline DoT is lvl44

Stealthers
NS = Wank, weak as fuck. Well something's fucked up in Hib, GOOD.
Infil = Uber, really fucking über. Put 2 (competent, don't have to be good) opponents on a unbuffed infil and he's pretty dead.

Pet Classes
Enchanter = Powerfull nuking pet, LoS fucker, 90% of hib casters are these nowadays, can't find a hib caster without one of those underhill asslickers behind him
Theurgist = Chain Stunning which is gone in 1.53+, fucking annoying pets which die to any form of CC, fuckloads DT

CC Spec Casters
Light Eld = 31 sec mezz
Ment. Mentalist = 80 sec mezz (singletarget) and bucketload of other g00dies.
Sorc = 1min 6 sec Mezz

Main Healer
Druid = shite pet, crap root and DoT (same as MENTALIST DOT dmg-wise)
Cleric = Insta stun, PB Mezz 5 min timer, WHAT FUCKING INSTA STUN????

Speed Class
Bard = Insta CC, Standard CC, Speed, Mana, End, Heal, Buff, Rezz, insta DD which uses less pow than minstrel one and has short timer
Minstrel = Speed, Mana, Stealth, Good Melee Damage with buffbot, Stun, DD's that use more power than you ever thought
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Yea fuck off Xanthian.
 
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belth

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Originally posted by old.Odysseus
afaik chainstun nerf was 1.52, lowering the chance of procs.
as it is now, I must get 4 pets going before I have any reasonable chance of getting a reliable proc.

http://www.camelotherald.com/more/447.php :


the lord giveth and the lord taketh away.
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I was remembering them putting it on the regular immunity timer, maybe it was some Pendragon test which got removed.
 
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old.Xanthian

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Originally posted by belth


Yea fuck off Xanthian.
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Hey wanker, how about I get you a spoon so you can eat you arse ?

Your an alb, you think you realm is shit and u wont be told otherwise.
I dont know why I bother trying to convince yourself otherwise.

I got an idea, roll a Hibby or Mid on Pryd and play against Albs.
THEN you may appeciate them a little more.
 
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belth

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Originally posted by old.Xanthian



Hey wanker, how about I get you a spoon so you can eat you arse ?

Your an alb, you think you realm is shit and u wont be told otherwise.
I dont know why I bother trying to convince yourself otherwise.

I got an idea, roll a Hibby or Mid on Pryd and play against Albs.
THEN you may appeciate them a little more.
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Hey how about you stop telling us to fuck off to another game, pea-for-brains. You're so stuck up in your underdog mentality that you'd complain about even if all hib classes had speed, buffs, heals, rez, mana regen, end regen, weaponspec and scale armor. As in baseline specs.
 
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-Wedge-

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An Eldrich is crap compared to a Wizard? ROFL :clap:

Unless I 1-shot an Eldrich with a bolt, there is no way in crappy hell I can win from 1... A QC + Stun is the winning combo for him... And there's nothing I can do about it...

Eldrich is the 2nd best 'pure' caster, Runemaster is the best ... Wizard is a weak 3rd... Imho ofcourse...

But saying a Wizard is better, or even Uber... LOL, sure... Must be that we are the least defensive Caster out there, with the least utility spells, with one of the most common damage type-resist out there... (if you spec fire)

Oh and dont forget, Eldrich can debuff one of his own damage spells (His blast line (DD+Snare) is energy damage and he has a energy debuff in void line... A runemaster can do this too btw (Cold debuff + Cold DD)...

Funny...
 
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old.Xanthian

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LOL Wedge

An Eldritch CANT debuff his own damage type unless he gimps his spec.
Energy Debuff is in the Void line, which is COLD based.
There are NO debuffs in the Mana line, which is ENERGY based.
There are NO debuffs in the Light line which is COLD based.

So to be able to debuff his own damage type he would have to spec 27 Void and 44 Mana. In turn missing out the 3 best Mana spec spells.


And I never said Eld was crap and that Wiz was better.
I said VOID Elds are shit compared to the Bolt spec Wizard equiv.

Learn to read.


ps .. And if you think thats a viable Eldritch spec then, Wizards can debuff his own damage too by speccing Path of Ice, which has an AE DD+Heat Debuff, although its only 5% :p
 
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old.Wildfire

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It's not just "not hard" to get a caster stun on another realm's casters, its almost impossible to prevent.

What do we have that out-ranges their caster stun - botls and nearsight. Bolts won't kill, and by the time it casts he'll have started his stun cast, so it will land then he'll stun and kill me. We also have nearsight, which is a better solution, but is on cabalists so in no way helps balance things, as their far more widespread eldritches can simply return the favour, and you're buggered again.
 
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old.Xanthian

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Originally posted by belth


Hey how about you stop telling us to fuck off to another game, pea-for-brains. You're so stuck up in your underdog mentality that you'd complain about even if all hib classes had speed, buffs, heals, rez, mana regen, end regen, weaponspec and scale armor. As in baseline specs.
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Do you see me complaining about ANY of the classes in Hib ?
NO
Some of them are shit and some of the spec lines are utter trash.
But instead of annoying everyone else by posting bollocks on forums, I get on with the game the way it was created.
Just face it, Mythic aint gonna change thier game for a 12 year old idiot complaining that his class doesnt get xxx spells.
 
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old.Wildfire

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"I got an idea, roll a Hibby or Mid on Pryd and play against Albs.
THEN you may appeciate them a little more.

ahahahahaha thats just funny - when they do that they'll realise just how easy hibs have it (I've done it, though not on pryd) and how easy albs are to gank. But it will give you the time to invent a whole new string of comebacks past the usual

"Someone got owned..."

:sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:

and my personal favourite "You're albs, therefore you are stupid"
 
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Trubble

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Take a look on what people choose to play on PvP at this URL:

http://www.duskwave.com/daoc/classes.php?server=Camlann&realm=

As you can see, number of players playing the CC classes are this:

156 Sorcerer
466 Bard
561 Healer

I know a few level 50 sorcs from excalibur who have started a healer, and their reaction are both: Wow, healers are much nicer!

So you hibs thinking that sorcerer class is leet really should try to play one, its not a very good class.

As a consequence of this and the smite nerf, albion is now without good CC. It really should be obvoius to anyone and I dont get why you cant see it.
 
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old.Outlaw

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Ph34r my ubar RA Siege Bolt!

lol who needs Group Purge!

PS do any hib classes have a special RA as useful as the Siege Bolt? or even better? I use mine to the max every day :p
 
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Treniel-

Guest
Xanthian u ever get the feeling that nobody gives a shit about what you say? i've seen about 5 people on this thread telling u to stfu and alot of the time u post sum1 says it lol
 
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old.Xanthian

Guest
Treniel, like I care, they are Albs.. I dont have chance to talk to them ingame anyway.
I remember not so long ago I was on IRC and you asked if I played TFC etc...
Anyway I recall ppl in IRC giving you shit for being a moany prick.. and they were your realm mates..

Touché
 
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old.Wildfire

Guest
Xanthian did you ever play TFC?

I mean I was just trying to remember you, which I surely would if you were one of the good, talented or even remotely influential players.
 
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old.Xanthian

Guest
Nah I wasnt very good, I tended to keep away from all the 1337 idiots from SHS and TA etc..

Although I did play in a premiership clan for a while.
 
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Apathy

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Originally posted by old.Xanthian

Although I did play in a premiership clan for a while.
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Big whoop. I felt up Joanna Lumley's ass in a lift when I was 7.

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Qte Eth

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severing the tether has no use on non pvp server at all if u ask about worst ra..(only effective against enchs lol!)
 
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old.chipper

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close the thread its pointless inuslts thrown across each other now no one is gonna see eye to eye :)
 
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Thorarin

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Originally posted by Cronn

Remove insta ae stun and mez from HEALERS (the class is called Healer not Mezzer) I don't give a toss they don't have any offence, they have the best defence possible (chain, buffs, insta heals, single target insta stun and mez) Reduce times of AE stun to be in line with alb and hib single target stun (ie max 9secs)

If any class should have Insta mez it's the sorc, they give up HP and armour for pure casting ability, but insta sucks so just give 1750 range.
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LOL, you're a funny guy Cronn :)
 
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StormriderX

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/em gets the world's smallest violin out for teh whiners
 
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splash0r

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Originally posted by Cronn


I chose to play alb because my friends played it.



Would that be when a fg of mids ganked me when I was solo?Yeah, well done.



Thanks man :D
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lol like ganking you 1 on 1 would be hard fniss :)
 
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Treniel-

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lol urm ditto..don't care what albs think as 90% of them are newbies
 
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