Insta Ae mez

[old.m0000]

because it wasnt gimped when we roled it.

+ xanthian i didnt read ur whole post cuz i just cant take the stink of bullshit for so long.

but one thing stuck out - you think mana mentalists suck in rvr? - lol i think that just shows the quality of your information

+ their dot is exactly the same as cabas + they got a nice 9 sec stun to make it easier to stack em - only thing that makes caba uber in rvr is having nearsight and dots on the same specline.


*edit norteh words removed + spelling corrected, was a bit tipsy when i posted

 

[kameh]

Nobody knows and understands the capabilities of every class in the game because nobody has played all classes/variants of those classes to level 50. So complaining that your nerfed out your arse constantly is a pile of garbage.

If anyone is that unhappy with thier character, cancel your subscription and go get a playstation, it's a GAME and if it's causing you that much stress perhaps you shouldnt be playing it.

Lets face it the RvR forums is just an a whine forum, it's certainly not somewhere you see any constructive discussion and to be honest even if there was we get what MYTHIC do to the game anyway, not GOA, they're just resellers...

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!

flame all you want, I wont be reading the RvR forums. I'll leave that to the few normal, intelligent people that post here and all the moaning - whinging - hairy palmed arseholes.

 

[old.m0000]

Originally posted by old.Xanthian


lol. Twat.

It was sarcasm, light humour, something your in-futile brain may not be able to understand.
The PoM/MR/Mana Song arguement is utter bollocks, you really dont have a vaild arguement.
Other than MR, what use to Mana spec ments have in RVR ?
Not much, AE DoT will break mezz and generally not do much damage, compared to the Cabalist DoT.
the majority of ments in rvr atm are light spec and only have MR3 at most, which although is better than nothing it is still very slow.

If you really wanna start comparing classes, hows this:

Bolt Spec Casters
Void Eldritch = Shit
Fire Wizard = Uber

DoT Spec Caster
Mentalist = so,so
Cabalist = Uber DoT + Pet

Stealthers
NS = Wank, weak as fuck.
Infil = Uber

Pet Classes
Enchanter = Powerfull nuking pet
Theurgist = Chain Stunning, fucking annoying pets

CC Spec Casters
Light Eld = 31 sec mezz
Sorc = 1min 6 sec Mezz

Main Healer
Druid = shite pet, crap root and DoT
Cleric = Insta stun, PB Mezz

Speed Class
Bard = Insta CC, Standard CC, Speed, Mana, End
Minstrel = Speed, Mana, Stealth, Good Melee Damage, Stun, DD's

Think about it, the realms are even, Hibs are more powerfull in ways , Albs are more powerfull in ways and same with Mids.
Moan all you want but theres 6 more patches before any of your thoughts get taken into considoration, so either get used to it, or fuck off to another game cos your boring the hell out of us.

since void eld is more like an earth wiz u cant really compare, fire wiz dont have 9 sec stun to go with big dds which ALL hib casters have.

dot spec casters - both identical like i said in previous post only good thing caba has is nearsight on the dot line - again no stun no mana crack no mezz

cant really compare thergs to chanters since they're too different but if u really wanna : therg pets last 30 seconds and air pets dont have 1500 range they still have to get to u to stun u unlike chanter pets which nuke u from 1500 for snare and fat dmg each time. Chanter pet also requires no line of sight whereas therg pets require line of sight for each spell cast and eat power like fuck - chanter pet does not.

cc specced casters - wtf are u doing ur comparing a fucking 2nd or 3rd lvl mezzer with our primary mezzer - how about compare bards to sorcs ? - bards with a nice insta ae mez speed reinforced armour weapons heals end regen power regen insta dd. and sorc with no insta cloth armour no heals "crap" speed caster hps no melee no insta dd.

as for druids, the insta root aint crap, insta ae (i think) - pet is great for chain interrupt casters, dot aint "crap".
and clerics get ur facts straight clerics do not have insta stun they have the same stun as ur casters do except no quickcast - a 9 sec 3 second cast single target stun and their pbae mezz is "shit" and is only practical in a defensive as in tanks are whacking the cleric and he wants to run and even then u only get 1 try at casting it and its almost always resisted because its absolute pap.


a minstrel is no longer thought of as a "stealth" class - and does not do "good melee damage" - the only reason you hibs still think minstrels rock is because of a certain alpha male - well news flash hibbies not everyone has a lvl 50 buffbot and every RA under the sun coupled with uber items.



I wasnt even gonna reply to ur post but i thort i better set the record straight - you're comparing alb classes with unrelated hib counterparts to make hib look crap. You even said clerics had insta stun - you're rr5+ ffs and u dont know that clerics dont have insta stun? - only 2 classes in alb have stun, minstrels (insta single 6 second) and cleric non-QC able casting 9 sec stun single target. - compared with every single hib casters (lets face it over 65% of ur realm are casters) having a 9 sec 1500 range stun which they can QC.


the only classes that anyone in their right mind could mabye think alb have that are better than anything hib has are : Friars and infils. Also dont forget in SI you get and UberFriar counterpart (valewalker, basicly friar version 2 - can you say 33% damage absorb buff?) and animist (theurgist version 2 + made overpowered to suit hib).

 

[poppamies]

Ok, if u remove the middy healer insta mezz, what would u like to replace it with ? (since thats the only thing a healer do, CC and heal)
Helaers dont got any ofencive spells/weapon styles at all.
Replace the insta mezz with a dd...
That would mean healers could get 2x 1k more hp (insta heals), 56sec ae mezz (castable), 9 sec ae stunn (castable) AND a castable dd, and wear chain armour.
would u want to try kill something like that ?
Coz if u do remove the healers insta mezz/stunn i would have to replace it with something else, because that would mean healers wouldnt spec that high (38 atleast) in paci to get the instas, and dont try to say ur a healer ur job is to heal coz u know no one would play a class that cant do anything then just to hope the tanks will save his ass in fights, and no putting the points in aug wont make the healer a tank that can defend himself.
So before u start whining about removing the instas, try and come up with a solution ok.
Takeing away the healers instas without giveing them something in return would mean no more exping for mids since NO ONE would play a healer.

 

[splash0r]

Originally posted by Cronn
All hibs and mids are stupid bastards.

There I said it.

Aye m8 sure we are thx for ur Rps tonight u gave me RR5

 

[Trubble]

remove CC from healers and give them smite. Remove smite from clerics and give them the CC healers had. when this is done, move the sorc class to midgaard.

 

[StormriderX]

Originally posted by Cronn
All hibs and mids are stupid bastards.

There I said it.

Omg you spelled a word with eight letters in it - you are so smart!

Idiot.

 

[old.Xanthian]

m000: Whatever.

If you feel you rolled a gimped class on a gimped realm then its your fault not anyone elses.
I don't need to come here to convince you otherwise.
So like I said millions of times, Delete and Re-Roll or Delete and piss off to another game and take you moany attitude with you.

 

[AbPoon]

M00 leveled a zerker to lvl 40 odd which is supposidly counted as the "over powered" light tank in the game so he has no excuse tbh

 

[old.m0000]

my point was that albion was not gimped when first i roled a minstrel - they were considered a very good class.

Now they're a support class with rogue hps and a broken spec line (stealth)

and yes i enjoyed my zerker - very nice damge and it was fun right up till 41 but i realised that in rvr cirsumstances i just dont like playing a pure tank as much as a hybrid

 

[old.m0000]

and xanthian the only reason you dont have a moany attitude is cuz ur a hib caster - the most overpowered casters in the game.

 

[StormriderX]

Zerkers aren't overpowered at all - they are simply the only light tank in the 3 realms to live up to the description, i.e. less defence more offence.

Minstys gimped? /em looks at top rp farmer on excal...
1) Alpha male - Minstrel

If you stopped whining and played more, maybe one day you'll be 1/10th as good as he is.

 

[AbPoon]

Moo got owned..... again

 

[old.chipper]

lol how can u say alb wasnt gimped at the start come on if u where there u know better friars too many spec lines not enough points cabalists well um er 0.o and as for paladins well they only just gettin better

the only class i feel sorry for on alb is the scout wanna play a nerfed char go play a scout then come back and whine your just pissed cos u cant own all the time thats called bad sportsmanship.

nerf chanters make sure they get LOS fixed
nerf healers stun to 9 secs instead of 12
take out see hidden
increase smite slightly
thats all i feel needs fixing in game on a big scale

 

[old.Xanthian]

Originally posted by old.m0000
and xanthian the only reason you dont have a moany attitude is cuz ur a hib caster - the most overpowered casters in the game.

:sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:

 

[Cronn]

Originally posted by kameh

Plus if your realms so fecking gimped (which it obviously isnt) then why the hell did you choose it?

I chose to play alb because my friends played it.

Originally posted by splash0r


Aye m8 sure we are thx for ur Rps tonight u gave me RR5

Would that be when a fg of mids ganked me when I was solo?Yeah, well done.

Originally posted by stormriderx


Omg you spelled a word with eight letters in it - you are so smart!

Thanks man

 

[old.m0000]

Originally posted by old.chipper
lol how can u say alb wasnt gimped at the start come on if u where there u know better friars too many spec lines not enough points cabalists well um er 0.o and as for paladins well they only just gettin better

the only class i feel sorry for on alb is the scout wanna play a nerfed char go play a scout then come back and whine your just pissed cos u cant own all the time thats called bad sportsmanship.

nerf chanters make sure they get LOS fixed
nerf healers stun to 9 secs instead of 12
take out see hidden
increase smite slightly
thats all i feel needs fixing in game on a big scale

i tried listing things that need fixing ontop of those u said but i realised theres too many to list and i cba typing all out.

but one thing that needs to be on there is give alb a utility spell that everyone else already has... guess which one.

 

[Apathy]

Please....remove...instas...force people to...use...skill...

The instas of the few outweigh the skills of the many.

a.
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[Aeiedil]

Originally posted by Arthwyr


Hmm no instead we give 2 realms a whole list of (IMPORTANT)abilities that can't even be found on the 3rd realm and then call the game balanced.

Endurance regeneration (hib)
POM (mid hib)
AOE stun both insta and castable (mid)
Insta aoe mezz (hib mid)
Tanks that only have to spec one skill line to 50 to get max damage (hibs mids)
etc etc

I could go on but I wont, playing on pvp with both hibs and mid classes in one group it only became more clear that mids to some extent but mainly hibs are seriously overpowered. Best PvE group would mainly be hib based part from a paladin to hold the agro with his heal chant and a mid healer to spam aoe stun while the pbao kills the mobs. BUt a bard, warden (x2) and a chanter (x2) would most certainly be in the group.

the end regen gets changed in the next patch, it gets given to shammies and i think paladins. friars have a form of self end regen also. alchemy also has potions that both heal and give an end\health\mana regen effect up to the effect of end 4 for 2 mins, or mana 4 for 10 minutes.

also dont clerics have an insta aoe mez thats on a 30 second castable timer?

also cant alb tanks just spec 1 like for a single-hander to get max damage? nothing says they have to be polearms

pom and mr are different but ah well

have you added into this a chain-wearing stealther with cc who can spec weapons if he chooses? (mincer), a caster with very strong stacking dd's (theurgist pets, 30 sec dot, stackable, can come with stun element). how about the permanent charm enjoyed by sorcs\hunters and not had in hib? how about the way skalds dont need instruments but minstrels and bards do? how about the way our bladeturn class aint a caster? how about how midgard has no pierce weapons (unless hunter spears pierce?), how about how mid assassins can use 2h weapons but alb\hib ones cant? how about how im very tired and so cant carry on this list? nerf tiredness

 

[poppamies]

If theu remove the instas, they have to replace them with something usefull.
So plz ppl, what would u like to see the mid healer get in return?
Im curious.

 

[allana]

Originally posted by Aeiedil


also dont clerics have an insta aoe mez thats on a 30 second castable timer?

Yes clerics get insta mezz on a 200 range and on a 5 minute timer. its also not baseline but part of the horribly nerfed smite line meaning that the vast majority of rejuv or enhance clerics wont have more than heavenly images which has an 11 sec duration. Added to this is the problem that with resists it very rarely holds let alone gives you full duration and you have to literally be standing on top of the enemy to get it to work at all.

So you are quite right albion has insta aoe mezz..cheers mythic.

 

[Treniel-]

also dont clerics have an insta aoe mez thats on a 30 second castable timer?

.............i don't even need to explain how shit that is

Xanthian you talk utter bullshit.....

Bolt Spec Casters
Void Eldritch = Shit
Fire Wizard = Uber

Eldritchs STILL get stun which means they can basically own a wiz if they get stun of 1st which isn't that hard.

DoT Spec Caster
Mentalist = so,so
Cabalist = Uber DoT + Pet

Mentalist...so so? omfg are u retarded what more could you want on a char?

Stealthers
NS = Wank, weak as fuck.
Infil = Uber

Infils uber...ah right so thats why most seem to grp now instead of solo? yes they are better than NS wow a class thats nerfed in hib? surely not

Pet Classes
Enchanter = Powerfull nuking pet
Theurgist = Chain Stunning, fucking annoying pets

You forgot to mention the Stun, PBAOE, uber nukes etc compared to theurg they rock...uterly and ofc your pet LoS shit

CC Spec Casters
Light Eld = 31 sec mezz
Sorc = 1min 6 sec Mezz

ok a few words..ROFL omfg how can u compare those 2? sorc = albs main CC class is light eld? no..idiot

Main Healer
Druid = shite pet, crap root and DoT
Cleric = Insta stun, PB Mezz

Instant stun that lasts 2 secs OFMG WOW, PB mess yeah like 200 radius every 5min which always gets resisted..druids don't have shit root either and there dot is average.

Speed Class
Bard = Insta CC, Standard CC, Speed, Mana, End
Minstrel = Speed, Mana, Stealth, Good Melee Damage, Stun, DD's

urm u actually kinda said Bards are better there...more skills u see? Instant CC, Standard CC which doesn't take 1/2hr to cast, End song


omg how do u get away with talking so much bull? your rr6 your meant to be a good player fs.

 

[old.Xanthian]

Cos your an Alb, you think that GOA/Mythic are against you so you will contradict ANYTHING a Hib says when comparing realms.
These are my personal opinions, and you have yours.

and i'll say this again, in bold & caps this time so you remember.

IF YOU DONT LIKE YOUR REALM/CLASS DELETE IT, AND START AGAIN ON A REALM WITH A CLASS YOU LIKE INSTEAD OF BORING US POOR BASTARDS ON HERE, WITH YOUR WHINES!!

And im not RR6.. yet.

 

[zlair]

Isn't there someway I can filter the spam from Ad(d)Poo ?

Ohh, some1 stated that Mids insta mezz gets purged: true, but only hibs have Grp purge, and honestly i think many albs stops rvring and go back to lvling a stealther cuz of that. Many dont have time nor energy to get Purge, so we get owned by the insta mezz, gets frustrated and leave rvr in hope of owning as a stealther.

 

[old.Odysseus]

I am feeling a tendency to believe that theurg pets are uber. Let me clarify this by and example:

The other day I got jumped by a level 50 skald. I ofc get insta dd and mezzed. The second he swings at me, I qc my mezz, hope he hasnt got purge.
I run to range 17-1800, still hoping for no purge. I /face and start spamming pets.
5 pets gone, 50% pow left, skald is starting to hurt - getting chainstunned.
8 pets gone, skald pops IP
10 pets gone, I pop MCL
15 pets gone, skald is hurting bad
1 nuke, skald dead.

That sums up to the following:
100% pow + MCL spent.
1 dead skald.

Theurg pets are by no means uber. It took me 2 minutes and more than 100% power to get one kill with them.

 

[old.Outlaw]

lol I rox

 

[Treson]

Well as some ppl say.. you kill the bard you kill the group

 

[Eleasias]

So you get jumped by the best caster killing hybrid who uses a 30 min timer RA and doesnt kill you? And the pets are *bad* ? k

 

[old.Odysseus]

Originally posted by Eleasias
So you get jumped by the best caster killing hybrid who uses a 30 min timer RA and doesnt kill you? And the pets are *bad* ? k

Try and re-read my post. I did not say they were "*bad*". I said they were not uber. Big difference.

They are perfect for excactly the sort of battle I just described - IF the opponent doesnt have purge OR you get the jump on him. Just bear in mind that you will have 5 minutes downtime after such a battle.

 

[belth]

Originally posted by old.Odysseus
I am feeling a tendency to believe that theurg pets are uber. Let me clarify this by and example:

The other day I got jumped by a level 50 skald. I ofc get insta dd and mezzed. The second he swings at me, I qc my mezz, hope he hasnt got purge.
I run to range 17-1800, still hoping for no purge. I /face and start spamming pets.
5 pets gone, 50% pow left, skald is starting to hurt - getting chainstunned.
8 pets gone, skald pops IP
10 pets gone, I pop MCL
15 pets gone, skald is hurting bad
1 nuke, skald dead.

That sums up to the following:
100% pow + MCL spent.
1 dead skald.

Theurg pets are by no means uber. It took me 2 minutes and more than 100% power to get one kill with them.

Next patch their chainstun gets nerfed too afaik. Yay. Not to mention that the pets die when some enemy thinks of CC.