I need a scout template

sedde

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Hi, i need a scout template (sniper, so full longbow) which includes :

GSV
Mariashas Gloves (i can get scallars too)
Golder Spear
Astral Bow of Dismay (ml10) one

the other is up to you,

i am thrust so i need to cap dex + str

PS : i might use ml10 cloak, so i will have to use ml10bp + ml10 leggins for it, i dont care since i own the items.

Thnx in advance.
 

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No disrespect, but I think you need to set your priorities:

If your scout is full longbow (sniper), you will *NOT* benefit from any melee-bonusses to begin with. Its useless, not like 5% more melee-damage will make a difference, instead of hitting for 50 you hit for 52, it wont help your case.

In order to maximize your bow-damage, you should consider

* Golden Scarab Vest
* Mariasha Sharkskin Gloves
* GOLM Archery Version

from there on you go build up archery-haste, DEX-cap etc.

Stuff like ML10 leggings/chest are simply not worth it, if you go for archery, as they have no archery bonusses.
 

scorge

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sedde said:
Hi, i need a scout template (sniper, so full longbow) which includes :

GSV
Mariashas Gloves (i can get scallars too)
Golder Spear
Astral Bow of Dismay (ml10) one



Thnx in advance.


for sniper spec you should use immolated bow to max damage, otherwise try braggarts bow or the champion weapon.

cant remember what the max damage from ml10 bow is, i managed to get 1011 on braggarts with crit strike the other day think immolated hits for 1100ish

SoM is really a must as well



:m00:
 

eggy

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scorge said:
for sniper spec you should use immolated bow to max damage, otherwise try braggarts bow or the champion weapon.

cant remember what the max damage from ml10 bow is, i managed to get 1011 on braggarts with crit strike the other day think immolated hits for 1100ish

SoM is really a must as well



:m00:

Why if he's only sniping?
 

sedde

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Well, the ml10 bow has a 60delve debuff so it should hit harder than the immolated bow, but i really wanna use it, so any templates would help me a lot , since i really havent made a scout template ever...
 

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if you know what you want in the template why dont you make it your self? would be alot easyer then :)
 

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Eeben said:
if you know what you want in the template why dont you make it your self? would be alot easyer then :)



orly ?

well you just got +1 without saying anything geez
 

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TBH sniper templates are the easiest to make.

I could whip a shite one up in bout 10 min......watch
 

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Statistics
STR:77/75 CON:76/75 DEX:100/100
QUI:77/75 INT:0/75 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:240/240
Power:0/25
AF:32/50

Resistances
Body: 21
Cold: 22
Heat: 21
Energy: 9
Matter: 16
Spirit: 0+5
Crush: 23+2
Slash: 35+3
Thrust: 25

Skills
Longbow: 14
Stealth: 11

Bonuses
Archery Damage: 8
Archery Range: 11
Archery Speed: 10
Melee Combat Speed: 5
Fatigue: 5

Chest (Golden scarab vest):

Arms:
Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 13 Quickness
Gem 2: 25 Constitution
Gem 3: 5 Stealth
Gem 4: 36 Hits
Utility: 59.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Head:
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 28 Constitution
Gem 2: 25 Strength
Gem 3: 44 Hits
Gem 4: 5 Body
Utility: 56.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Legs (Arcanium Pants of the Transfixer):

Hands (Mariasha's Sharkskin Gloves):

Feet:
Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
Gem 1: 13 Constitution
Gem 2: 22 Strength
Gem 3: 76 Hits
Gem 4: 7 Thrust
Utility: 56.3
TOA Utility: 0.0

Ranged (Astral bow of Dismay):
Imbue: 30.0
Gem 1: 6 All Archery
Gem 2: 15 Dexterity
Gem 3: 8 Dexterity Cap Increase
Gem 4: 2 Archery Damage
Gem 5: 2 Archery Range
Utility: 40.0
TOA Utility: 36.0

Neck (Kraken Beak Necklace):
Imbue: 30.5
Gem 1: 8 Crush
Gem 2: 8 Slash
Gem 3: 8 Thrust
Gem 4: 20 Hits
Gem 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Gem 6: 3 Archery Speed
Utility: 53.0
TOA Utility: 29.0

Cloak (Shades of Mist):

Jewel (Gem of Lost Memories):

Belt (Belt of the Clouds):
Imbue: 34.0
Gem 1: 36 Dexterity
Gem 2: 30 Quickness
Gem 3: 2 Archery Speed
Utility: 44.0
TOA Utility: 10.0

Left Ring (Ring of Dances)

Right Ring ('s Ring of Abomination):
Imbue: 23.0
Gem 1: 40 Hits
Gem 2: 6 Cold
Gem 3: 5 Heat
Gem 4: 5 Energy
Gem 5: 12 AF
Gem 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 42.0
TOA Utility: 22.0

Left Wrist (Ebon hide bracer):
Right Wrist (Ebon hide bracer):
 

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sedde said:
Well, the ml10 bow has a 60delve debuff so it should hit harder than the immolated bow, but i really wanna use it, so any templates would help me a lot , since i really havent made a scout template ever...


iirc ml10 weps have 2% bonuses V players witch stacks to make ur max bow damage 12% rather than 10 so stick with ml10 imo


edit: nvm :p u need an arti bow /champ bow to get the 10% to begin with :<
 

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gohan said:
iirc ml10 weps have 2% bonuses V players witch stacks to make ur max bow damage 12% rather than 10 so stick with ml10 imo
cap is 10 for all archery toa bonuses (speed, dmg, range) from items.
 

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Wazkyr said:
cap is 10 for all archery toa bonuses (speed, dmg, range) from items.

since when? an is that just for bows cos lots used to use ml10 weps for the 2% v players witch stacked with the 10% v all giving 12% melee damage

but doesnt matter with bow as thier arent the variety of items you need to get 12% with ml10 bow anyway
 

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well tough news for you dudes

you cant get 10% dmg with bows

check it:

GoLM : 2%
GSV: 4%
3/4 Bows : 3%
1/4 Bow : 2%

Nough send & oh and does your resist window actually show 12% melee/style dmg or is this just more "hidden" Mythic crap?????
 

sedde

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well that template is good dafft but 35 slash resist Oo. and i need it to be alot cheaper, try making it plz
 

gohan

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Dafft said:
well tough news for you dudes

you cant get 10% dmg with bows

check it:

GoLM : 2%
GSV: 4%
3/4 Bows : 3%
1/4 Bow : 2%

Nough send & oh and does your resist window actually show 12% melee/style dmg or is this just more "hidden" Mythic crap?????

you cant just make up items :p wtf is a 1/4 or 3/4 bow?
 

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gohan said:
you cant just make up items :p wtf is a 1/4 or 3/4 bow?

I dont make up items sorry - right 3/4 bows stands for 3 of the 4 bows with % Bow Dmg ie braggarts, Fool's and Champ. 1/4 stands for ml10 bow
 

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Dafft said:
I dont make up items sorry - right 3/4 bows stands for 3 of the 4 bows with % Bow Dmg ie braggarts, Fool's and Champ. 1/4 stands for ml10 bow



well make me a cheap template then xD
 

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do you want my soul too??? how bout an arm & a leg?????

elcheapo eh? give me bout 15 min to whack together.
 

sedde

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Dafft said:
do you want my soul too??? how bout an arm & a leg?????

elcheapo eh? give me bout 15 min to whack together.



well i actually did one, tho i am interested in your opinion.


Oh btw , since its thrust, wont the bow damage been affected from both str and dex ? or only dex ?
 

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sedde said:
well i actually did one, tho i am interested in your opinion.


Oh btw , since its thrust, wont the bow damage been affected from both str and dex ? or only dex ?

Bow is effected by dex - I thought you wanted a sniper template!!!!!!!

here's one:

SI neckie,
Mau quest belt
GoLM
Blackened wrap
Ebon hide bracer
Ring of abomniation(sp!!!)
RoD
SoM
GSV
Lightning embossed helm (-i think) Stats: 19 dex/con 80 hits, +3 all melee 2% archery spd
MSG
Champ bow

Stats:
STR 45/75
Con 75/75
Dex 101/101
Qui 75/82
HP 232/240

Resists:
body 25%
spirit 10%
matter 17%
Energy 9%
Heat 15%
Cold 23%
Thrust 26%
Crush 26%
Slash 26%

Stealth 11/11
Bow 11/11

ToA Bonuses:

5% melee spd
10% bow spd
10% bow range
9% bow dmg
26/26 dex cap
7/26 qui cap
40/200 HP cap
32/50 AF
 

sedde

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champ bow lol i told you i wanna use ml10 one , anyway mine's better and cheaper , thnx anyway
 

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OK but I fail to see how your template could be cheaper as :-

1) All the items barr 2 are quests items or Arti's. Only trouble would be the helm & the bracer (which is farmable)

2) The Champ bow hits harder than the ml10. IE ML10 bow: 5.5 spd 2% dmg (75 value debuff) Champ bow is 5.6 spd 3% dmg.

FYI the caps would roughly be @ rr5 45 bow spec - 45+15 bow

ML10 bow: 570 normal shot 1140 Critshot
Champ bow: 587 normal shot 1174 Critshot

SC really didnt matter you couldve used 99% qua armour and still cap what you needed for sniping.

BUT hey as you pointed out, you just wanted some opinions - thats mine.On a side note IF I ever decided to be a sniper - rest assured a dex4 fe4 rr9 sniper scout would hurt with 50 bow - I wouldve chosen the champion bow over the ml10 bow
 

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Might as well take the chance to get feedback on my scout template. Spec will be 45 longbow, 42 shield, 29 slash and rest in stealth. Autotrained Saracen.

Code:
Stats
Hits: 232
Str: 84
Con: 75
Dex: 103
Qui: 81

Resists
Body: 26        
Cold: 24       
Heat: 25 (5)        
Energy: 15
Matter: 16
Spirit: 11
Crush: 25
Slash: 24 (2)
Thrust: 25 (3)

Skills
8 Longbow (+11 with bow out)
11 Shield
3 Parry
11 Stealth
11 Slash
6 Thrust

Cap Increases
26 Dex
7 Qui
8 Str

Other Bonuses
4 Archery Damage Bonus (8% with bow out)
4 Style Damage Bonus
4 Melee Damage Bonus
5 Melee Speed Bonus
8 Archery Speed Bonus (10% with bow out)
7 Archery Range Bonus (11% with bow out)
20 AF Bonus
5 Fatigue

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Golden Scarab Vest

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99 precious Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 13 Quickness - 99 imperfect Airy Essence
Gem 3: 11 Crush Resist - 99 faceted Fiery Shielding
Gem 4:  3 Shield - 99 rough Fiery Battle Jewel
Utility: 60.33

Head
Name: Winged Helm

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 13 Constitution - 99 imperfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 11 Heat Resist - 99 faceted Heated Shielding
Gem 3:  9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 4:  3 Stealth - 99 rough Airy Battle Jewel
Utility: 63.67

Hands
Name: Mariasha's Sharkskin Gloves

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 16 Constitution - 99 polished Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 13 Quickness - 99 imperfect Airy Essence
Gem 3:  5 Longbow - 99 imperfect Airy War Sigil
Gem 4:  4 Shield - 99 flawed Fiery Battle Jewel
Utility: 64.33

Right Hand
Name: Scout Dextera Blade

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 16 Dexterity - 99 polished Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 13 Quickness - 99 imperfect Airy Essence
Gem 3:  4 Shield - 99 flawed Fiery Battle Jewel
Gem 4:  5 Slash - 99 imperfect Watery War Sigil
Utility: 64.33

Two Handed
Name: Braggarts Bow

Neck
Name: Kraken Beak Necklace

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist

Jewel
Name: Eerie Darkness Stone

Belt
Name: Katorii Girdle

Right Ring
Name: Zahurs Ring

Left Ring
Name: Ring of the Tempest

Right Wrist
Name: Bracer of Physical Conflict

Left Wrist
Name: Blackened Bracer
 

Dafft

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Greandel, looks good, but I think I might have the wrong stats for some items since I dont seem to get your resists or stats.
 

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Dafft said:
Greandel, looks good, but I think I might have the wrong stats for some items since I dont seem to get your resists or stats.

Less of this Scout jibberish and more talkage on Post Mortem . TS

I need to talk to u about a horse selling a man while i drink afew more can's or Stella ... c'mon ... times a wasting !!!

P.S. My dog says ... w00f(Hi)
 

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Had a fiddle about and got this from your items Graendel:

Code:
Statistics - Melee mode
	STR:84/83     CON:74/75     DEX:101/101
	QUI:87/82     INT:0/75     PIE:0/75
	CHA:0/75     EMP:0/75
	Hits:232/200
	Power:0/25
	AF:20/50

Resistances
	Body: 25
	Cold: 24
	Heat: 23
	Energy: 20
	Matter: 16
	Spirit: 23+5
	Crush: 22+2
	Slash: 22+3
	Thrust: 22

Skills
	Longbow: 8
	Stealth: 11
	Slash: 11
	Thrust: 6
	Shield: 11

Bonuses
	Archery Damage: 4
	Archery Range: 7
	Archery Speed: 8
	Style Damage: 4
	Melee Damage: 4
	Melee Combat Speed: 5
	Fatigue: 5
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Statistics - Bow mode
	STR:72/75     CON:74/75     DEX:101/101
	QUI:75/87     INT:0/75     PIE:0/75
	CHA:0/75     EMP:0/75
	Hits:232/200
	Power:0/25
	AF:20/50

Resistances
	Body: 25
	Cold: 24
	Heat: 18
	Energy: 20
	Matter: 16
	Spirit: 16+5
	Crush: 22+2
	Slash: 22+3
	Thrust: 22

Skills
	Longbow: 11
	Stealth: 11
	Slash: 2
	Thrust: 2
	Shield: 7

Bonuses
	Archery Damage: 7
	Archery Range: 11
	Archery Speed: 10
	Melee Combat Speed: 5
	Fatigue: 10

ITEMS:
Chest (Golden scarab vest):
	Imbue: 25.0
	Gem 1: 15 Dexterity
	Gem 2: 6 Slash
	Gem 3: 6 Crush
	Gem 4: 6 Thrust
	Gem 5: 4 Archery Damage
	Gem 6: 4 Archery Range
	Utility: 46.0
	TOA Utility: 40.0

Arms:
	Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
	Gem 1: 7 Body
	Gem 2: 19 Quickness
	Gem 3: 5 Longbow
	Gem 4: 3 Shield
	Utility: 66.7
	TOA Utility: 0.0

Head (Winged Helm):
	Imbue: 28.0
	Gem 1: 40 Hits
	Gem 2: 10 AF
	Gem 3: 15 Dexterity
	Gem 4: 5 Spirit
	Gem 5: 15 Strength
	Gem 6: 5 Matter
	Utility: 50.0
	TOA Utility: 10.0

Legs:
	Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
	Gem 1: 25 Constitution
	Gem 2: 25 Quickness
	Gem 3: 9 Heat
	Gem 4: 5 Energy
	Utility: 61.3
	TOA Utility: 0.0

Hands (Mariasha's Sharkskin Gloves):
	Imbue: 28.0
	Gem 1: 3 All Archery
	Gem 2: 3 Archery Speed
	Gem 3: 4 Crush
	Gem 4: 4 Thrust
	Gem 5: 4 Slash
	Gem 6: 4 Heat
	Gem 7: 4 Energy
	Gem 8: 4 Cold
	Gem 9: 3 Archery Range
	Utility: 63.0
	TOA Utility: 30.0

Feet:
	Imbue: 37.0/32 (Quality: 100)
	Gem 1: 13 Dexterity
	Gem 2: 25 Constitution
	Gem 3: 9 Cold
	Gem 4: 4 Shield
	Utility: 63.3
	TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Hand (Scout Dexteta Blade):
	Imbue: 23.0
	Gem 1: 4 All Melee
	Gem 2: 12 Strength
	Gem 3: 12 Quickness
	Gem 4: 8 Strength Cap Increase
	Gem 5: 4 Melee Damage
	Gem 6: 4 Style Damage
	Utility: 36.0
	TOA Utility: 56.0

Left Hand:
	Imbue: 37.5/32 (Quality: 100)
	Gem 1: 5 Slash
	Gem 2: 4 Shield
	Gem 3: 5 Heat
	Gem 4: 7 Spirit
	Utility: 69.0
	TOA Utility: 0.0

Ranged (Braggart's Bow (Alb)):
	Imbue: 10.0
	Gem 1: 3 All Archery
	Gem 2: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
	Gem 3: 5 Quickness Cap Increase
	Gem 4: 5 Fatigue
	Gem 5: 2 Archery Speed
	Gem 6: 3 Archery Damage
	Gem 7: 4 Archery Range
	Utility: 15.0
	TOA Utility: 77.0

Neck (Kraken Beak Necklace):
	Imbue: 30.5
	Gem 1: 20 Hits
	Gem 2: 8 Slash
	Gem 3: 8 Thrust
	Gem 4: 8 Crush
	Gem 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
	Gem 6: 3 Archery Speed
	Utility: 53.0
	TOA Utility: 29.0

Cloak (Shades of Mist):
	Imbue: 20.0
	Gem 1: 3 Stealth
	Gem 2: 15 Strength
	Gem 3: 15 Quickness
	Gem 4: 10 AF
	Gem 5: 5 Melee Combat Speed
	Gem 6: 5 Fatigue
	Utility: 35.0
	TOA Utility: 45.0

Jewel (Eerie Darkness Stone):
	Imbue: 37.0
	Gem 1: 4 Crush
	Gem 2: 4 Slash
	Gem 3: 4 Thrust
	Gem 4: 5 Body
	Gem 5: 5 Cold
	Gem 6: 5 Heat
	Gem 7: 5 Energy
	Gem 8: 5 Matter
	Gem 9: 5 Spirit
	Utility: 84.0
	TOA Utility: 0.0

Belt (Katorii's Demon Bound Girdle):
	Imbue: 12.0
	Gem 1: 18 Dexterity
	Gem 2: 15 Dexterity Cap Increase
	Gem 3: 2 Archery Speed
	Utility: 12.0
	TOA Utility: 40.0

Left Ring (Zahur's Ring):
	Imbue: 40.0
	Gem 1: 60 Hits
	Gem 2: 6 Cold
	Gem 3: 6 Matter
	Gem 4: 6 Body
	Gem 5: 6 Spirit
	Gem 6: 6 Energy
	Utility: 75.0
	TOA Utility: 0.0

Right Ring (Ring of the Tempest):
	Imbue: 38.0
	Gem 1: 5 Stealth
	Gem 2: 18 Strength
	Gem 3: 7 Body
	Gem 4: 48 Hits
	Utility: 63.0
	TOA Utility: 0.0

Left Wrist (Blackened Wrap):
	Imbue: 24.0
	Gem 1: 3 Stealth
	Gem 2: 2 All Melee
	Gem 3: 16 Dexterity
	Gem 4: 16 Quickness
	Gem 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
	Gem 6: 7 Quickness Cap Increase
	Utility: 46.3
	TOA Utility: 28.0

Right Wrist (Bracer of Phyiscal Conflict):
	Imbue: 40.0
	Gem 1: 64 Hits
	Gem 2: 24 Strength
	Gem 3: 24 Dexterity
	Gem 4: 24 Constitution
	Utility: 64.0
	TOA Utility: 0.0

Maybe I got some of the item's stats wrong - let me know.

Over all a nice balance of resists, skills but I would've gone thrust with that high dex & being a saracen. With PD and CL resist buff line, you'll have a good chance to live.
 

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