How do YOU beat a necro..?

[censi]

Any necro worth his salt, will win vs etc etc etc

no necro is worth his salt. You dont roll one if your into FG rvr cuz the class is useless. So you role them to PVE, or you roll them to abuse the fact that about 60-70% of the classes in daoc cannot physically defeat u unless u are AFK.

Conclusions: Aside from PVE, only morons play them.

 

[Nullifidian]

no necro is worth his salt. You dont roll one if your into FG rvr cuz the class is useless. So you role them to PVE, or you roll them to abuse the fact that about 60-70% of the classes in daoc cannot physically defeat u unless u are AFK.

Conclusions: Aside from PVE, only morons play them.

Lol and i suppose you know every RvR active necro well enough to say that?

Conclusion: censi doesn't know what he is talking about.

 

[censi]

ok sorry im wrong necro is a great challenging and fun class to play and they are really good for the game!

 

[Nullifidian]

ok sorry im wrong necro is a great challenging and fun class to play and they are really good for the game!

See, that wasn't so hard, was it?

 

[Blizard]

no necro is worth his salt. You dont roll one if your into FG rvr cuz the class is useless. So you role them to PVE, or you roll them to abuse the fact that about 60-70% of the classes in daoc cannot physically defeat u unless u are AFK.

Conclusions: Aside from PVE, only morons play them.

Try telling that to Jaxxel then... i think you should think before you open that mouth of yours tbh!
The game is made for people to have fun... remember that!! If people want to play a Necro in RvR, then good luck to them and i hope they prove aragant arseholes like yourself who think they know everything wrong!

Conclusion: Dont tar all Necro's with the same brush! Most who you come up against in RvR havent even got a template but go out for fun and to get a couple of realm ranks under there belt for PvE RA's.
A truley RvR dedicated Necro with a decent template can be awesome!!

 

[Calo]

Im actually happy necro's are tough like that in 1VS1, in grp they are the most useless class u can imagine.

I remember 1 fight where i was solo vs a necro and some grp comes in and tries to kill the pet and i just did F8 + dd = free 1000 rp They didn't really like that tho

 

[Void959]

Vs a decent caster no necro will win, vs a decent necro no tank will win. Jaxxal is probably the only decent rvr necro I can think of, but I still wouldnt fear him on a caster, or in a group. I have to agree with censi, the majority of necros camp around bridges etc looking for ignorant low rr stealthers and tanks to have a pop at them, and 1 button them down, perma MOC2 LT with 10 times the AF of a sorc is not exactly hardmode.

 

[Andrilyn]

Or can just do a sneaky disease and hope he doesn't have his music on as he won't see the debuff on his pet buff window (only supports like 5 buffs) and then when he runs off out of range of his pet kill the caster.
Did something like that on Camlann but was with a root instead of a disease

 

[Everz]

The only reason necro's hang around bridges is because in open field your free rp for any roaming caster, althought 99% of melee you will eat if you are buffed etc, the class eneds some attention, gave up on mine, to many bugs.

 

[censi]

Most who you come up against in RvR havent even got a template

only template u need is capped buffs on BB!

 

[Punishment]

For an assasin

Make sure to land Pa+Cd + Battler debuff + s/c decrease + disease<very important> + Dot in the 1st 5 seconds and if the shit hits the fan and u aint winning ... Vanish

 

[GrIrcSpammer]

as an assasin use lg weapons hope that the debuff procs ,battler them right away , empty mind and disease. necros dont go down fast but they dont kill fast so wait till u get ur legendary to proc and stun then . then u got fair chances to kill em but even then doing everything perfectly i wasnt able to beat talhamhea tho it usually worksa for rr3-4 ish necros that think they can conquer the world

 

[Everz]

only template u need is capped buffs on BB!

A necro needs a temp to rvr decent, nuff said.

 

[Alexandrinus]

necros are really easy for a BM -wich can dump alot of damadge in the first 20-30 seconds->dead pet

but with my valewalker i have really a problem, think run and use water bug is the only way to prevent his pet from beeing healed

 

[auroria]

necros are really easy for a BM -wich can dump alot of damadge in the first 20-30 seconds->dead pet

but with my valewalker i have really a problem, think run and use water bug is the only way to prevent his pet from beeing healed

id like to see u killing a good necro with bm

 

[luribeauty]

i've killed a few with viper3 helping,if they don't face u when doing lt u might be in luck otherwise ur prob gonna die.

 

[Drusus]

We have no CC, and only 1500 spell range, max!
We have no transferal of Cast Speed % to pet. (Even if we cast 1st, you can cast and interrupt us)
Pet starts with 0 Dex, all its Dex comes from Buffs or SC.
We have no access to a lot of RA's, those we do have access to dont work properly.
Our Pets suffer from 100% crits, not 50% like all other players.
Pet Pathing is attrocious, we lose pet if its out of range, and we're left on 10% health if that happens, with NO ability to defend ourselves.
We have no utility and therefore find it near impossible to get groups. (Even now when i'm RR7.8)
Our Nukes do about 25-50% less damage than any other caster.
After summoning our pet, we are classed as level 44 (pet level) for spell purposes. (eg. we're resisted a lot more than other casters)
Caster's/assassin dots hit for cap damage - resist since pet is lv 44 (meanin your a lvl 44 player in RvR...see above)
Pet takes max. duration of crowd control spells (mez/root/stun/disease)
Cleric's can't use group window to single target heal necro's pet.
Can't use Alchemy/Bounty item Pots/Gems and a lot of other charges when in shade form.
Pet melee speed is very, very slow since Quickness + Aug Quickness do not transfer to pet, Pet starts with 0 Quickness.
Only about 2 CL's work in conjunction with necro's.

Wow, but if we buff ourselves to the max, and get a decent SC suit, we're almost Melee immune? Great lot of good that does us Vs every group we meet or any class with CC, or if the Melee class just sprints out of range and isnt stupid enough to think they can melee us down?
It's probably the hardest class to play effectively in RvR, thats why there's only 3 of us that keep coming back, the others you see are there for a day, find out how hard it is, then roll another class!

Want anymore info about how bad necro class is? Just ask me!

...End of my rant for now.

 

[bigchief]

necro in toa, in OF was fun. Noone knew how to handle it and stuff like dd mines were a new concept. Did 150k rp / week solo back then which at the time was fking loads.

These days its too shit :E

O and for the record, a necros always been hard to kill with nukes, soon as a caster starts on you, just FP lifetap ...

of course anyone with stun, or NS will just rape it badly

 

[censi]

Wow, but if we buff ourselves to the max, and get a decent SC suit, we're almost Melee immune? Great lot of good that does us Vs every group we meet or any class with CC, or if the Melee class just sprints out of range and isnt stupid enough to think they can melee us down?
It's probably the hardest class to play effectively in RvR, thats why there's only 3 of us that keep coming back, the others you see are there for a day, find out how hard it is, then roll another class!

I love the way your say "we're almost Melee, immune? Great lot of good..." as if being virtually melee immune is like some minor thing

 

[Slitzzz]

simple. you cant beat a geared up necro 1vs1

say what? Oo

 

[Cemeterygates]

if you are a champ do like the picture in my signature. works good

hahah dude that is some EVIL dammage! i need rr5

 

[Alexandrinus]

id like to see u killing a good necro with bm

long time ago that i real soloed with my BM, but what i can remember is that i feared WL,BD ..Merc..Sav.....Necro wasn't on the list

 

[danmrman]

no necro is worth his salt. You dont roll one if your into FG rvr cuz the class is useless. So you role them to PVE, or you roll them to abuse the fact that about 60-70% of the classes in daoc cannot physically defeat u unless u are AFK.

Conclusions: Aside from PVE, only morons play them.

necro's are hardcore, given that most templates i have seen on here skip on spirit they will have a ball of a time, also power transfer to players in combat and af debuffs on assist trains. yeah i think your wrong they have many things that are good for rvr. just not seen as a rvr class

Editokies having a necro 50 DS 20 Painworking give such... powertap, lifetap, insta dot, insta str/com, aoe snare, aor dot<low lvl> armour debuff Value 250. and some other toys)

Over all i would say they are untried in rvr and have the potentual of being awesome

 

[rvn]

There is a definite tactic that works well against this class. Heres a few tips.

a) Firstly when u see the necro enter the command /loc. Then /map. Watch the rough direction the necro is going.

b) Then do a /who "loc" looking for any bard class in the area.

c) Then do a /send "bard name" There a FG or warder wizards and clerics running to "rough direction necro is going"

d) keep up with the necro but target the player not the pet.

(heres the cool bit)

e) when group turn up and attack necro pet, you go and attack the necro caster. Spam your melee style button like there is no tommorrow.

f) Then do 3 /rudes at random members of the hib group and moan at them for adding.

g) give necro a /mil so he dont add on you next time! (dont do /hug or /dance or /smile, these can be miscontrude as patronising)

/censi's guide to rr10

 

[rvn]

ok these classes can beat necro 1v1.

normall class no ra's.

Enchanter, Animist, Eldritch, mentalist, zerker (crit mode), bm (triple wield), sm, warlock. Bonedancer

With ra's.

All casters with MoC.
Zerker
Bm
Hero with IP+ <no mana for so much hp drain).
warrior with IP+ '' '' '' '' '' '' ''.
Vampiir
champ with static tempest

aybe i forgot some

you might want to add that if zerker wants to kill, or warrior, they will have to battler dump, and still then i doubt its possible if the necro has decent equip.

 

[Corran]

necro's are hardcore, given that most templates i have seen on here skip on spirit they will have a ball of a time, also power transfer to players in combat and af debuffs on assist trains. yeah i think your wrong they have many things that are good for rvr. just not seen as a rvr class

Editokies having a necro 50 DS 20 Painworking give such... powertap, lifetap, insta dot, insta str/com, aoe snare, aor dot<low lvl> armour debuff Value 250. and some other toys)

Over all i would say they are untried in rvr and have the potentual of being awesome

They have alot of potential BUT they take a spot that could be better used especially because the pet is buggy.. Just running on agramon you got a 50% chance of losing your pet for no reason, if you got speed 5 (or 6) that chance increases due to the stupidity of some pathing.

Then there is the high resist rate on spells, the full duration of CC, the ability to continuously reapply CC on the pet (no 1min immunity last i knew) etc etc.

 

[theslayeruk]

I don't beat necro's; I wait for others to kill the abomination and stick the inconnu in combat mode... olol...

 

[danmrman]

what is the necro rr5 ability? Should be insta cast pet. then u would never kill em solo

 

[Void959]

Try testing out the pets fully buffed casting speed and you'll quickly see why necros will never be regarded as a useful class in group RvR.

 

[auroria]

what is the necro rr5 ability? Should be insta cast pet. then u would never kill em solo

its a "buff" that makes u cast it in 3 sec afaik