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svartalf

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Meh, wrote a post but cba to argue anymore :D

At the end of the day, I'll come back to the game when it's calmed down and developed a good 5v5 scene / fixed stuff. Not 100+ noobs zerging back and fourth between 2 keeps.
Sounds like sPvP is built for someone like you. Or do you just want to be able to faceroll zergs? I can't imagine them ever putting a 5 minute AoE mezz in the game.
 

Himse

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Sounds like sPvP is built for someone like you. Or do you just want to be able to faceroll zergs? I can't imagine them ever putting a 5 minute AoE mezz in the game.

SPvP is actually horrible. No kite space blah blah, too many things to talk about really.

It's not about facerolling zergs as such, it's the fact there's nothing competitive about GW2, it's just 100 people zerging over 20, or the other way round 5 minutes later.

Don't see what's so hard to understand, grouping with people is fun, facerolling everything in sight then getting facerolled by a bigger zerg sounds like fun o_O
 

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GW2 open PvP was built, like every MMO except DAoC, so that people who are shit at other games (FPS, RTS, take your pick) can 'win' by substituting skill with numbers. Sad but true. Bought the game to give it a chance when some buddies wanted to try SPvP but it's just a button-mash fest. So boring.
 

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GW2 open PvP was built, like every MMO except DAoC, so that people who are shit at other games (FPS, RTS, take your pick) can 'win' by substituting skill with numbers.
Ridiculous. /Stick+Mezz+/Assist+111111 does equal "skill".
 

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GW2 open PvP was built, like every MMO except DAoC, so that people who are shit at other games (FPS, RTS, take your pick) can 'win' by substituting skill with numbers. Sad but true. Bought the game to give it a chance when some buddies wanted to try SPvP but it's just a button-mash fest. So boring.
any game is a button mash fest its all input by buttons and Daoc was the worst of the lot it was mezz at max range mash assist train .. i dont see any different from any other mmo you mash the buttons in a certain order to max your damage output / survival is all .. i think you all just grown up and have a romantic idea of how leet you were in daoc tbh.
 

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GW2 open PvP was built, like every MMO except DAoC, so that people who are shit at other games (FPS, RTS, take your pick) can 'win' by substituting skill with numbers. Sad but true.
Thats an exceedingly bold statement.

I may not be a pro FPSer anymore but i've done my share of pro ladder TF2, i also play LoL fairly well, I do draw the line at competitive SC2 however...prefer coop there, when I play RTS's at all.

I also dislike "fg pvp". Its exclusive, its full of people with over inflated egos who aren't actually any "good", they just know how to perform a set function repetitively.




Theres also a reason that "GW2 open PvP was built" like that. Its more popular.
 

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GW2 open PvP was built, like every MMO except DAoC, so that people who are shit at other games (FPS, RTS, take your pick) can 'win' by substituting skill with numbers. Sad but true. Bought the game to give it a chance when some buddies wanted to try SPvP but it's just a button-mash fest. So boring.

Lol i'm sorry but are you on drugs?

DAoC with it's /stick, /face and /assist macros coupled with retarded CC demands more skill then a game that has none of that fucking shit how exactly?

And spamming a anytime style or single target DD in a assist train is not button mashing then? Oh i'm sorry, i forgot that all you had to do was tape down the number 1 key so it's always pressed and you can just sit there tabbing through targets! Yeah my bad, that clearly needs more skill then actively having to play the game.

Man i can't believe i forgot the tape....
 

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If all you were doing in DAoC was /stick /face /assist and spamming one button then therein lies the problem of why you think it was easy. So much madness over someone telling the truth.
 

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GW2 open PvP was built, like every MMO except DAoC, so that people who are shit at other games (FPS, RTS, take your pick) can 'win' by substituting skill with numbers. Sad but true. Bought the game to give it a chance when some buddies wanted to try SPvP but it's just a button-mash fest. So boring.

lol
youre clearly BEST PERSON EVER at everything , and everyone else is just a scrub

/facepalm
 

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Didn't say that did I? As ever people with inferiority complexes prove my point for me.
 

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Im not dissing anyones skill level here but, really guys?

All of you know DAoC was not a stick&assist game, if you do, you were obviously not playing properly.

I thought GW was designed to be a skill game? SPvP is just sit and capture the point thanks for ranks and WvW is run between 2 points and zerg back and fourth.
 

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Also, my point is DAoC had something to counter the zerg other than a bigger zerg. But there was always stuff to counter CC, purge, CB, group purge yada yada.

Don't know why people cry about mezz so much in fairness, it was so easy to split on inc.
 

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Most of those defending Gw2 never did much 8v8/solo/zerg farming till it was dead tbfh ;).
 

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lol, trying to look pro and being condescending at the same time dont work ;)

If you want to blindly believe something that isn't true I can't do anything to stop you can I. If people believe GW2 PvP is good and DAoC was ez button mash trash then fair enough, but they're either completely ignorant of the facts or just stupid.
 

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people who claim DAOC was an 8v8 game or a "dueling zone" exists and all this other shit they invented to try to force the community into playing a certain way make me laugh

it was an RVR , zerg based, siege design.. if it worked or not is debatable, but going on about how X or Y random shit was good or more-hardcore etc is pretty irrelevant
 

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Didn't say any of that at any point, once again your inferiority complex and clear desire to be something more than you are/were shines through.
 

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well as im clearly inferior to you, do enlighten me as to what " i was " id love to know :)

again with the drivel that isnt really relevant, trying to make grandiose statements and look clever, but not really succeeding <3
 

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Didn't say I was better than you at any point, nice inferiority complex you got there.
 

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Didn't say that did I? As ever people with inferiority complexes prove my point for me.
Didn't say any of that at any point, once again your inferiority complex and clear desire to be something more than you are/were shines through.
Didn't say I was better than you at any point, nice inferiority complex you got there.


*Cough*

I also dislike "fg pvp". Its exclusive, its full of people with over inflated egos who aren't actually any "good", they just know how to perform a set function repetitively.

TY for proving the point ;)
 

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lol, trying to look pro and being condescending at the same time dont work ;)
Shh, hes obviously vastly superior to us in every way shape and form. Hes going to be President of the Universe don't you know! Dont anger him or he'll mind bullet you to death with his pure untempered awesome skills that noone else can possibly ever posses.....or hes just a 1,2,3 button masher whos to stuck in his ways to understand that the world has changed around him, living out his days like a giant turtle, interesting to the others as an oditiy, a curiosity about how just because evolution went down one line, it doesn't mean that line is right....and then the line dies off, over taken by the evolutionary track, that actually helped the gene pool.


I'll admit that the last year or so of DAoC when it was losing the 'popular' and becoming 'niche' it had become a fairly 8v8 game...simply because everyone else had left.
 

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Got to love how, after 11 years, the same people are still so upset about being bad at a game that they're still this defensive about it.
 

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Got to love how, after 11 years, the same people are still so upset about being bad at a game that they're still this defensive about it.
Oh you.
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Nah i highly enjoyed DAoC when i played it. Set me on the MMO trail for...11 years? has it been so long, feels like only yesterday. Roaming through Hadrians to Beno to hold off yet.another.middy.attack. Oh tho good ol nights hanging around, drinking, making jokes, murdering, making more jokes...and of course the ever present "Do we have enough wood?"


Mmm, sweet nostalgia.....
 

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Anyway, this has gone for beyond the original point which still remains the same. The two games are objectively incomparable in terms of the depth of combat, from the amount of classes/abilities, to the different types of abilities, the counters you need to be aware of, the time to kill and thereby importance of positioning, interrupts, I could go on and on. The fact that pointing out this fact descended into morons accusing me of simply trying to shout down other people and proclaim my so called 'superiority' (which I never did at any point), is absolutely fucking laughable. The biggest irony of all being that these mental midgets have the cheek to insinuate that I'm in some way childish for pointing out a fact that they're uncomfortable with. You're all so goddamn blind to the facts that the only defence you have is to deflect your sense of injustice into a tired old argument that anybody who disagrees with you is some 'elitist'. Utterly, utterly pathetic.

Anyway I'm off to Paris Games Week tomorrow to play video games for money because I'm an eSports superstar and I'm so much better than all of you. Cy@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
 

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Got to love how, after 11 years, the same people are still so upset about being bad at a game that they're still this defensive about it.

yea i was shit at daoc, and i still am, true story ;(

was cool to play with you so much that you would know thi.. oh wait
 

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Anyway I'm off to Paris Games Week tomorrow to play video games for money because I'm an eSports superstar and I'm so much better than all of you. Cy@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
And they wonder why eSports in Europe isn't as well received as Asia or the US...


With eloquent chaps like you they can't go wrong!



And no we aren't trying to shout you down. I took exception as you stated, explicitally, that anyone who disagreed with you was

GW2 open PvP was built, like every MMO except DAoC, so that people who are shit at other games (FPS, RTS, take your pick) can 'win' by substituting skill with numbers. Sad but true. Bought the game to give it a chance when some buddies wanted to try SPvP but it's just a button-mash fest. So boring.

You threw out the Carte blanche...not us. If you feel unable to back up your statements and/or stick by them, thats not our problem. But if you go attempting to tar the vast majority of players with a single brush do not be suprised when people start picking apart everything you say...and then at the end try (and fail) to take the moral high ground that people are "picking on you".

Really, if you are so easily brought low then i dont get how you can be anywhere in eSports. Every eSports pro i have met has a very thick skin and is generally fairly switched on to the fact that what they do does not appeal to everyone, they try and appeal to wider audiences by doing exposition matches to bring more people into the fold.
They don't stand there and yell at the top of their voice "This is right! Anyone who thinks otherwise is just a shit player", well some do, but they dont hang around very long ;)
 

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