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Kindar
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How hard does the NS insta dds hit for? They often get resisted?
How hard does the NS insta dds hit for? They often get resisted?
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azshara
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fu
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azshara
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little. yes.
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Freppe^^
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Yes + the dmg would be like 40(-25) perhaps.
Its shit, and you cant say theyre anything like the description above. Worse spellcasters aint alive.
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Freppe^^
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The insta dd is only good for one purpose tbh, and thats to interupt. 
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azshara
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yush.Originally posted by Freppe^^
The insta dd is only good for one purpose tbh, and thats to interupt.
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zoia
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This is true when it comes to the zerging NSs/rangers in Odin's
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azshara
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;d
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Gold-i2
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"They are strong spellcasters "
You can interpret that in two different ways:
1. They are strong, and also spellcasters.
2. They are "strong" when it comes to casting spells. (Which, compared to infils and sbs, they are.)
With tert attrib being Str, I guess Mythic wanted to say that ns's are stronger (pure str) than casters, but they are still casters...in a way.
Either that or they think it was a funny joke, just as fooling people into making kobold sbs and telling them evade is partly dex-based. That was pretty funny.
Well, doesn't really matter...blizzard updated the wow-site (atleast compared to last I looked there) and reading there is more fun than playing my fotm savage in daoc.
You can interpret that in two different ways:
1. They are strong, and also spellcasters.
2. They are "strong" when it comes to casting spells. (Which, compared to infils and sbs, they are.)
With tert attrib being Str, I guess Mythic wanted to say that ns's are stronger (pure str) than casters, but they are still casters...in a way.
Either that or they think it was a funny joke, just as fooling people into making kobold sbs and telling them evade is partly dex-based. That was pretty funny.
Well, doesn't really matter...blizzard updated the wow-site (atleast compared to last I looked there) and reading there is more fun than playing my fotm savage in daoc.
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salamurhaaja
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There were nerf df threads.
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eNzi
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No, I whine about DF and LA damage untill these have been changed.
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eNzi
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Originally posted by -yoda-
why do most the posts here seem to be whines from sb's saying they are UNABLE to kill infils? you saying u cant kill a inf ? if u lose everytime u fight a infil you SUCK... you should re-roll n play summink else.
also sayinh how gimped u r . do you go rvr full buffed (my guess is 80%+ stealthers are fully buffed these days.) if u got out unbuffed and i fight a buffed class u gonna get yur ass handed to you .
assasin classes can and do kill nearly all other class in the game . and yet you STIL whine because you aint THE strongest ? sb's were by FAR the best stealther for a long time,,,, sb's didnt whine about DF at all then . now there dgme has been brought inline with others they whinge like fcuk
the fact is EVERYBODY will carry on whining unless the class they play is THE best in the game ,, you get armsman whining for new stuff . zerks . warriors . thanes . most casters .. scouts , rangers , hunters. they ALL have some sort of whine or another about another class.
just becuase u cant WTFPWN every other class ingame that is NO reason to whinge imo
if u dont like the game and aint having any fun , quit the game n go play summink else or god forbid go do some RL stuff
I am not saying that I havent ever killed an infil. What I am saying is, that I would like to see a more balanced stealther community, I _DONT_ want to see Shadowblades 3-hit infils, I don't want to see Nightshades 3-hit shadowblades and etc etc.. I do not think it's fair that infils just have to wait for an evade to go off, and cross their fingers that the sb/ns don't have purge up.
More balance is what I want.
Oh, and I will for sure keep whining about DF for as long as it is so overpowered as it is, no one can stop me from doing that
And if just every single shadowblade will do the same it will for sure get nerfed. That's the way albs got la nerfed to it's thin bones.
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LOL
I'm so god damn happy now, I'm a stronger spellcaster than an infil!
Fact is, ns magic is utter crap, its a fucking joke that we deserve 2.2 x specpoints just cus we get a 40 dmg insta dd every 20 seconds. It really is.
If the damage would be tripled its still near useless, would be better if they could put it on a 10 sec timer and give it a proper effect or multiply the dmg by, say, 4 or 5 times.
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[DK]hakke
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Doublefrost whines yea
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etcetra
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Played infil from Back in the days and is rr4L1? Guess it wasnt infils that sucked, just you who didnt know the class yet.
Now its so easy thoug, so everyone can play it. :|
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etcetra
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Originally posted by VodkaFairy
LOL
I'm so god damn happy now, I'm a stronger spellcaster than an infil!
Fact is, ns magic is utter crap, its a fucking joke that we deserve 2.2 x specpoints just cus we get a 40 dmg insta dd every 20 seconds. It really is.
If the damage would be tripled its still near useless, would be better if they could put it on a 10 sec timer and give it a proper effect or multiply the dmg by, say, 4 or 5 times.
So it becomes better than the Thanes castable when they spec 48 in the Stormcalling Line?
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VodkaFairy
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Originally posted by etcetra
So it becomes better than the Thanes castable when they spec 48 in the Stormcalling Line?
Boost thanes magic too?
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old.Emma
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Prior to 1.50 and 1.51 the assassins were about as balanced as they could be.
When LA got fubar'd by mythic things went out of wack. They then later nurfed LA to level below that of 1.50/1.51 which is why SB`s are hurting so much now.
No one really complained at Dragonfang before LA got nurfed because there wasn`t any need to. LA was far superior back then and being stunned for 9 seconds meant jack sh*t because you could still win the fight anyway. Atleast this was the case with my Norse SZ, cant comment on Kobbie's although they have for a long time now been one of the weaker races for an SB.
But since LA got nurfed and our damage is no longer on par the other shortfalls of SB`s came to light. Most notaly SB RA`s and our Slash weak armour.
Mythic have admitted to going a bit "too far" with the nurf and have said if they could do it all over it wouldn`t be as drastic. Atleast they have made the first step in the right direction. All it is now is a matter of time before they finally get around to sorting out there mistake.
When LA got fubar'd by mythic things went out of wack. They then later nurfed LA to level below that of 1.50/1.51 which is why SB`s are hurting so much now.
No one really complained at Dragonfang before LA got nurfed because there wasn`t any need to. LA was far superior back then and being stunned for 9 seconds meant jack sh*t because you could still win the fight anyway. Atleast this was the case with my Norse SZ, cant comment on Kobbie's although they have for a long time now been one of the weaker races for an SB.
But since LA got nurfed and our damage is no longer on par the other shortfalls of SB`s came to light. Most notaly SB RA`s and our Slash weak armour.
Mythic have admitted to going a bit "too far" with the nurf and have said if they could do it all over it wouldn`t be as drastic. Atleast they have made the first step in the right direction. All it is now is a matter of time before they finally get around to sorting out there mistake.
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Gold-i2
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Originally posted by VodkaFairy
LOL
I'm so god damn happy now, I'm a stronger spellcaster than an infil!
Fact is, ns magic is utter crap, its a fucking joke that we deserve 2.2 x specpoints just cus we get a 40 dmg insta dd every 20 seconds. It really is.
If the damage would be tripled its still near useless, would be better if they could put it on a 10 sec timer and give it a proper effect or multiply the dmg by, say, 4 or 5 times.
You are such a "glass is half empty" kind of guy.
I bet all sbs would love to get DD's...a 40 dmg insta DD every 20 s would double the unbuffed sbs damage after all.
Sick thing is, the fix is so simple, just give Dragonfang to hib/mid aswell. Make it the last style in CS instead. Let the albs keep their 3 stealthers (one with speed, mez etc) and their 2.5x level for the dragonsfangs (infs). DF for all and the infs would be "pwned" again. But we all know that infs would WHIIINE if they had to play on equal terms (almost, they still get 0.3 more per level). And Mythic is...well, mid-haters...so that won't happen. But it's a nice thought.
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tuathra
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havent read all this useless crap, but id just like to tell the clueless stealthers that we have had our share of fun with LA in REAL rvr. and we are not interrested in having several retardedly overpowered tanks in midgaard at the same time.
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Freppe^^
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Originally posted by Gold-i2
You are such a "glass is half empty" kind of guy.
I bet all sbs would love to get DD's...a 40 dmg insta DD every 20 s would double the unbuffed sbs damage after all.
Sick thing is, the fix is so simple, just give Dragonfang to hib/mid aswell. Make it the last style in CS instead. Let the albs keep their 3 stealthers (one with speed, mez etc) and their 2.5x level for the dragonsfangs (infs). DF for all and the infs would be "pwned" again. But we all know that infs would WHIIINE if they had to play on equal terms (almost, they still get 0.3 more per level). And Mythic is...well, mid-haters...so that won't happen. But it's a nice thought.
You gotta be kidding me? Sb's do the same amount of dmg as NS's do. Sure some ns's tend to abuse AP which makes sb dmg abit low. Those ns's r weak. I tend to use AP while having several ppl on me, to perhaps kill at least one.
The Insta dd is not at all for dmg, it suxs, you would laugh at it if you had it. Its only for interupt, which is good. You got more hp which is far more superior in assasin vs assasin.
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nalistah
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Originally posted by VodkaFairy
LOL
I'm so god damn happy now, I'm a stronger spellcaster than an infil!
LOL
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Runolaz
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NS do about the same dmg as a SB with pierce as a SB, but then again they swing faster, have better RA's, dd's and a better in-combat-stun. A high RR NS will tear a SB a new one easy. Would you trade the good stuff on the NS for the extra hp on a SB - I think not.
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haha, best joke ever :hat:
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nalistah
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just had a fight with Velmu, infil (rr5 iirc).
My snowblind did 86dmg on him. His unstyled offhand did 85dmg on me.
edit: i am 50axe, 46LA.
My snowblind did 86dmg on him. His unstyled offhand did 85dmg on me.
edit: i am 50axe, 46LA.
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Divinia
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Why is that i see 10x assasinclass whines per day while i never encounter whines about supportclasses/mages having a very hard time in rvr and also have a shitload of weaknesses compared to their counterparts.
is it that the assasinplayers got no lifes? xD
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maybe cuz all supportclasses/mages have now rerolled a inf/other stealther?
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-RG-Jaond
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I can tell you that our Shamie is very upset not having spec af buffs like the cleric :>
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Aybabtu
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Tud barn og tag kiks! imo
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I mean like this, a rr5 sb, ns is the same. A high rr NS got advantage over a sb cus of their ra's. Tho, a infil is best in either, imo, at high rr and low rr. And yes as a Low RR NS i would like extra xp.