Politics General Election 2017

[Raven]

Diane Abbott flounders over police funding AGAIN in TV interview

OMG SHE HAS DIABETES OR WHATEVER!

She needs to fuck off, sharpish, if we want to get rid of the Tory scum.

 

[BloodOmen]

OMG SHE HAS DIABETES OR WHATEVER!

She needs to fuck off, sharpish, if we want to get rid of the Tory scum.

You not seen Theresa's latest strong and stable ratings? she realy is strong and stable... like a fucking jenga tower on a bouncy castle full of sumo wrestlers.

 

[Raven]

I know, but Labour have kept that balloon shaped idiot out of the press for a few months. She could wrecking ball the whole thing with her fuckwittery. Its not like she has done anything except fuck Jezza in the 70s. The women serves absolutely no purpose at all.

She is only an MP because she is black and female, which ticks 2 out of 3 boxes for the hipster cunts in Hackney, all she needs to do is lop a leg off and she is sorted for life round there.

 

[Embattle]

Diane Abbott fires back after ITV News tweets her interview stumble

 

[Job]

Blairs spin doctors latest release.

Tony Blair 'ruled out deselecting Jeremy Corbyn over rebellions'

 

[BloodOmen]

She really needs to get the fuck out.

Theresa May's bid to fix parliamentary system to grab sweeping powers ahead of Brexit

 

[Raven]

Blair explains how he’d have done Star Wars differently

 

[BloodOmen]

Made my morning this did

The Government needs parliament’s approval to release the £1bn for the DUP deal

 

[BloodOmen]

Good job again for those who voted Tory /golfclap

"It is a bitter irony that Brexiteers who spent their careers championing parliamentary sovereignty have now chosen to sell it down the river."

The Tories have just granted themselves the power to bypass parliament on Brexit laws

 

[Job]

Ahh..at least they're our corrupt politicians.

 

[BloodOmen]

Fucking LOL

Tories defeated on NHS pay rise motion after DUP sides with Labour

 

[Raven]

I wonder if they still have the receipt?

 

[Raven]

But seriously, I would quite gladly warm my hands against a fire made of (current) Tory corpses, I literally wouldn't piss on May if she was burning, but when I look over towards the opposition I see this man, with his arm, shoulder deep up, Corbyn's arse.



A guy who "spent some years" (ie, fuck all) working then decided to put his feet up and become a union leader, earning 140k a year+benefits, including a 400k flat, man of the people and so on.

Frankly, I would take great enjoyment over the whole lot of them getting lined up and shot.

Every man (or women! /Monty Python) has the responsibility to look after themselves, if they are unwilling (not incapable) of doing so then they should be left behind to rot, frankly. Those who genuinely cannot help themselves should be helped, naturally.

That is not to say I don't support a fair wage for people that work to help others, Nurses, Fireman, coppers, teachers, absolutely they should be paid properly, nothing less than 30-35k imo (in today's money). That could quite easily be achieved by not wanking tax money up the wall on stupid shit, any competent man-manger can look after 100-150 staff, if all they need to do is manage the well-being and day to day needs of those staff. You don't need a deep understanding of the field your staff are working in, staff are staff, they process information, that is all, in any organisation, all you need to know is people. It could be mental health reports, it could be paper clip orders, data is data, it needs to be processed accurately, if they can't process that data then they should be got rid of. 20k tops for any public sector data processor, I mean they are pretty much just verifying AI processing now anyway...

Naturally the private sector will pay what it pays, if you are profitable then you keep your job, if you are a waste of space then "bye mate" the trick is to develop your skills and knowledge and thus become critically important to the business. Those that sit staring at a screen, breathing through their mouth all day, walk away at 5pm find themselves in hot water, those that take on an understanding of what is happening in the business and industry at large, predict what is happening in a years time, adapt and make ready, win...as it should be by any natural law earn a bit of praise and a bit of the slice of cake and will get rewarded accordingly, by the natural laws of capitalism. The productive get rewarded.

On the same note, when you "know everything" you can put your feet up now and again, your employer will be happy with it.

Anyway, Libertarianism is the way forward.

 

[Scouse]

"natural laws of capitalism"

 

[Ormorof]

That would be nice but humans tend to not follow "natural laws" when it comes to economics and business

We are not cold hard logical creatures

For your world to work nepotism would have to be stopped (merit after all being what drives promotion and hiring)

Also many many other things would need to change

 

[BloodOmen]

But seriously, I would quite gladly warm my hands against a fire made of (current) Tory corpses, I literally wouldn't piss on May if she was burning, but when I look over towards the opposition I see this man, with his arm, shoulder deep up, Corbyn's arse.

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A guy who "spent some years" (ie, fuck all) working then decided to put his feet up and become a union leader, earning 140k a year+benefits, including a 400k flat, man of the people and so on.

Frankly, I would take great enjoyment over the whole lot of them getting lined up and shot.

Every man (or women! /Monty Python) has the responsibility to look after themselves, if they are unwilling (not incapable) of doing so then they should be left behind to rot, frankly. Those who genuinely cannot help themselves should be helped, naturally.

That is not to say I don't support a fair wage for people that work to help others, Nurses, Fireman, coppers, teachers, absolutely they should be paid properly, nothing less than 30-35k imo (in today's money). That could quite easily be achieved by not wanking tax money up the wall on stupid shit, any competent man-manger can look after 100-150 staff, if all they need to do is manage the well-being and day to day needs of those staff. You don't need a deep understanding of the field your staff are working in, staff are staff, they process information, that is all, in any organisation, all you need to know is people. It could be mental health reports, it could be paper clip orders, data is data, it needs to be processed accurately, if they can't process that data then they should be got rid of. 20k tops for any public sector data processor, I mean they are pretty much just verifying AI processing now anyway...

Naturally the private sector will pay what it pays, if you are profitable then you keep your job, if you are a waste of space then "bye mate" the trick is to develop your skills and knowledge and thus become critically important to the business. Those that sit staring at a screen, breathing through their mouth all day, walk away at 5pm find themselves in hot water, those that take on an understanding of what is happening in the business and industry at large, predict what is happening in a years time, adapt and make ready, win...as it should be by any natural law earn a bit of praise and a bit of the slice of cake and will get rewarded accordingly, by the natural laws of capitalism. The productive get rewarded.

On the same note, when you "know everything" you can put your feet up now and again, your employer will be happy with it.

Anyway, Libertarianism is the way forward.

I wouldn't piss on May if she was on fire either... in fact, if I went for a piss and May was on fire in toilet bowl, I'd use the sink.

 

[Raven]

In my experience, if you do well and make an effort you get rewarded because doing well and making an effort helps generate income for the company or person you are working for. Natural law of capitalism, people want something and will pay for it, its not even a human trait.

People that want something for nothing often find they get nothing.

 

[dysfunction]

Unless of course they steal it.

 

[Scouse]

In my experience, if you do well and make an effort you get rewarded

In my experience of many large corporations (and their 'permanent' staff) there's one rule that holds truest: shit floats.

After that, if you're *really* good at your job your company will keep you there rather than promote you. The only benefit being you'll most likely not collect a whacking great redundancy payout whilst they export your colleagues jobs.

Merit, in my experience, has very little to do with real progress or reward.

 

[Raven]

Looks of idle people say that, almost always "not my fault", "someone else did it", "I can't help it"

Bollocks.

 

[Scouse]

Those people tend to be amongst those who have their jobs exported. Clearly not talking about them.

 

[Raven]

Perhaps they should think about a change in career, if they are disposable enough to be offshored to some shack dweller?

Or, if it pays so well, balls deep it enough to retire early.

 

[Scouse]

Missing the bigger point. Regardless of your casual racism (shack dweller?, really??) the important point I was making in response to your post was, very clearly, that merit, in my experience, has very little to do with real progress or reward.

My work means I tend to do, say, 2-year stints at big corporates. I've specialised in the energy sector and banking sector for the last twenty years and it's the same story constantly. I guess your experience doesn't show you that as you're a long-termer in a medium sized business (?) who doesn't get to see how it is in a lot of these places.

 

[Job]

The inevitable finally happens.
Gina whothefuckishe Miller is backing Khan for Labour leadership in a very carefully timed and I suspect very backed Indy article.

Sadiq Khan is Labour’s only remaining hope of surviving Brexit

 

[Gwadien]

The inevitable finally happens.
Gina whothefuckishe Miller is backing Khan for Labour leadership in a very carefully timed and I suspect very backed Indy article.

Sadiq Khan is Labour’s only remaining hope of surviving Brexit

Fuck off you racist fuck.

 

[Wij]

She's not wrong on the fuckheadedness being displayed by Labour and the Tories on Brexit though. They lie about it and shut down debate about what the final deal might be because debate would show how clueless and divided they are.

 

[Tom]

I wonder why Job doesn't like this black woman who forced the UK Government to follow the law.

 

[Scouse]

or

I wonder why Job doesn't like this brown muslim who seems reasonably capable compared to many of his colleagues

 

[Job]

We are witnessing a fucking hysteria unfolding down at the Labour conference, they need to go down their with medics.
Some kind of mass dillusion is taking hold while behind the scenes they are plotting his demise.
Im pretty sure hes having a wank while reading out every socialist dream from the pot.

 

[Job]

Fuck off you racist fuck.

Racist fuck for calling out Gina Miller as an unelected nobody pushing her own agenda on the Labour movement based entirely on her privilged position and powerful backers.
Shes a fucking power mad goldigger and is the very description of what Labour should be fighting against.