Garbannoch and Domain: The Outlaw and Zoyster of Hibernia?

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old.Tzeentch

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Here we go..

Hum.

Variety is important.

Most of my RP's came from this new current fotm trend of being l33t and running FG, simply to be l33t, except, back then, we did it because we didn't have patience to get 2fg going and running together, and it was fun.

Having said that.. considering I've been running in an 8man group for virtually 80% of all my realm points, easily over the past 10months or so.. I now enjoy a bit of 'zerging', as you guys call it.

Contrary to popular whines, I don't do this for the realm points, I do it 'cus it's a change from instead of 8v8, we can now do things like.. 16 v 16/24 or 16 v 16 + add's constantly all the way through the fight.

It's different, it has different problems and challenges to face.

I love how people are so quick to hop on to this relatively new bandwagon of going 1fg, and being so l33t as not to add.

Welcome to the game I've been playing for the past year.. LA/AR/VGN, I've ran virtually all the time in these guilds as one FG, sometimes 2fg sure, but does the 10% of the time I took along another group instantly cancel the other 90% of the time out ?

And NOW you guys come on to the FG train, and tell me not to zerg..

Let me refresh your memories: There was only a handful of groups out there running FG from mid, even less (close to zero) from alb, and most fg runners were from hib. No, I'm not even talking about pre SC where hibs were incredibly strong as the only realm with end regen, and mezz was fantastic. I could say that only within the past 2 months has FG combat become so popular, and I've a feeling it is probably because of the desire to be 'l33t' and prove you're just as good, to stand up the classics, LA, Nolby, or VGN.

Now you have this trend of everyone wanting to run FG's, and you're telling me.. us.. how to RvR? Telling us what FG combat means, and what it is?

I'm willing to bet I was running FGs out of ligen, while you were trying to get that last class for your group, so you could RvR.
Lacking that cleric? Taking that friar instead? No mend healer?

Sorry, but I've yet to recognise someone who was fighting against me when we did FG combat, telling me not to 'zerg', and that I should do FG combat.

Funnily enough, I get the suspicion that most whining at us now, were probably just part of the generic zerg us FGs back then hated, and always, even though we had not agreed on it beforehand, killed the zerg first if they stumbled upon us, before turning to each other.

I think I can have a change, 2fg that I lead, hunting down zergs, is pretty fun. You can get battles that last in excess of ten minutes, you can die several times, come back into the fight again, it's just a lot more epic.

FC come into the gorge or the most common routes into emain, get hit by one FG of hibs, and they do well, but then another group comes along and they're like 'FFS adders'.. well, hello there.. you might as well just stand outside ligen and achieve the same effect.

Seriously, there are very few people I'd change my gameplan and evening for, if they had asked me to stop running 2fg, I would have.

As much as my guild and other people dislike Nolby, I have respect for them, and admire them in some ways, if Xanatea was to ask me to stop running 2fg's, so we could do FG combat someplace, I'd agree, simply because these guys are the 'auld enemy', and I owe them a good fight time to time.

I do not owe anything to the generic zerg, that zerg is the explicit purpose of my 2fg, to take 'em out. I'll find out where they're killing, which way they were headed, try and figure out their movements, then hit them hard, trying to take 'em out, or die in the attempt. I do not seek single groups to 'wtfpwn' with superior numbers, but it's not as if it's in any one persons power to do anything when 16 people meet 8.



In short:

Please dont lecture me on running fg combat, when most of you are actually relative newb's to the entire fg 'scene', one I've been a part of for the past 10 months.

I'm enjoying this change from fg combat, it presents another side to daoc rvr, one which I previously never knew existed.

It's not about RPs, as anyone who loves RvR will tell you.

Nerf savages.
 
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Stallion-

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yip well spoken to bad u can only speak for urself & not the buddies ur running with...

And we spoke about it yesterday ;)

:great:
 
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alithiel50

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Originally posted by Garbannoch Nox
yes there is a difference: we start going 2fg if we get zerged again, again, again and again... not like albs have to face 140 hibs at any given day so can't really compare the situation.
This is all a matter of perception... I come home at a particular time, get a group in Emain, and lo and behold theres 3-4fg Hibs (or Mids, lets not forget that they zerg too!) already roaming grouped up so we can't even get past the milegate until the Albzerg has caught up and steamrollered through!

Then we get ourselves out to Breifine and Gorge and run the risk of being caught by the returning Hibzerg in the hope that we might find the odd single group or 2 that we can have a good fight with. It wouldn't be impossible for you to preserve Brefine/Gorge as a fg vs fg Arena, even when theres a huge Albzerg in Emain... all you have to do is persuade your individual groups to take different routes to Bolg and then again on to Crim before you all charge up Crim Valley together to have your 'Large Scale RvR' fun! ;)

And /who Emain figures are very misleading if you compare Alb vs Hib... probably 15-20% of the Albion figure consists of buffbots at ATK, whereas it's unlikely that the Hibs have any buffbots standing around in Emain! :p


Domain:

Yes, we've had a lot of fun fg vs fg fights in the past, but recently I can only recall 1 or 2 occasions where we've met you as a single group. The majority of times you've been in Garbannoch's group with another group or more following behind. And I think the less said about when you were hanging around with TdMM the better! :p

The title of the post was nothing personal, just a statement of fact... it's becoming more and more common, from the perspective of both realms, to see large groups of enemy charging down upon you headed by 2 RR10's.


Otherwise, Parlain's post seems to cover everything quite nicely... ;)
 
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sheph

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i like this thread

shows some true colors

i really dont comment on tha facts cuz nothin is new

see u in hell
 
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sheph

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Re: Here we go..

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
Hum.

Variety is important.

Most of my RP's came from this new current fotm trend of being l33t and running FG, simply to be l33t, except, back then, we did it because we didn't have patience to get 2fg going and running together, and it was fun.

Having said that.. considering I've been running in an 8man group for virtually 80% of all my realm points, easily over the past 10months or so.. I now enjoy a bit of 'zerging', as you guys call it.

Contrary to popular whines, I don't do this for the realm points, I do it 'cus it's a change from instead of 8v8, we can now do things like.. 16 v 16/24 or 16 v 16 + add's constantly all the way through the fight.

It's different, it has different problems and challenges to face.

I love how people are so quick to hop on to this relatively new bandwagon of going 1fg, and being so l33t as not to add.

Welcome to the game I've been playing for the past year.. LA/AR/VGN, I've ran virtually all the time in these guilds as one FG, sometimes 2fg sure, but does the 10% of the time I took along another group instantly cancel the other 90% of the time out ?

And NOW you guys come on to the FG train, and tell me not to zerg..

Let me refresh your memories: There was only a handful of groups out there running FG from mid, even less (close to zero) from alb, and most fg runners were from hib. No, I'm not even talking about pre SC where hibs were incredibly strong as the only realm with end regen, and mezz was fantastic. I could say that only within the past 2 months has FG combat become so popular, and I've a feeling it is probably because of the desire to be 'l33t' and prove you're just as good, to stand up the classics, LA, Nolby, or VGN.

Now you have this trend of everyone wanting to run FG's, and you're telling me.. us.. how to RvR? Telling us what FG combat means, and what it is?

I'm willing to bet I was running FGs out of ligen, while you were trying to get that last class for your group, so you could RvR.
Lacking that cleric? Taking that friar instead? No mend healer?

Sorry, but I've yet to recognise someone who was fighting against me when we did FG combat, telling me not to 'zerg', and that I should do FG combat.

Funnily enough, I get the suspicion that most whining at us now, were probably just part of the generic zerg us FGs back then hated, and always, even though we had not agreed on it beforehand, killed the zerg first if they stumbled upon us, before turning to each other.

I think I can have a change, 2fg that I lead, hunting down zergs, is pretty fun. You can get battles that last in excess of ten minutes, you can die several times, come back into the fight again, it's just a lot more epic.

FC come into the gorge or the most common routes into emain, get hit by one FG of hibs, and they do well, but then another group comes along and they're like 'FFS adders'.. well, hello there.. you might as well just stand outside ligen and achieve the same effect.

Seriously, there are very few people I'd change my gameplan and evening for, if they had asked me to stop running 2fg, I would have.

As much as my guild and other people dislike Nolby, I have respect for them, and admire them in some ways, if Xanatea was to ask me to stop running 2fg's, so we could do FG combat someplace, I'd agree, simply because these guys are the 'auld enemy', and I owe them a good fight time to time.

I do not owe anything to the generic zerg, that zerg is the explicit purpose of my 2fg, to take 'em out. I'll find out where they're killing, which way they were headed, try and figure out their movements, then hit them hard, trying to take 'em out, or die in the attempt. I do not seek single groups to 'wtfpwn' with superior numbers, but it's not as if it's in any one persons power to do anything when 16 people meet 8.



In short:

Please dont lecture me on running fg combat, when most of you are actually relative newb's to the entire fg 'scene', one I've been a part of for the past 10 months.

I'm enjoying this change from fg combat, it presents another side to daoc rvr, one which I previously never knew existed.

It's not about RPs, as anyone who loves RvR will tell you.

Nerf savages.

dejavu :)
 
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Bleeker

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Originally posted by Tilda
You could also have gone odins, if you had cleared the 3fg TP camping amg in odins FC would have gladly gone there to avoind the zerg :(

Tilda

:sleeping: whine whine whine
 
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old.Zoyster

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Hahahahahahahahahaha

Anyone that disses me on this forum is a GEEK.

- For 10 months we mainly roaming 1fg

- I use About 15 neckies a night.........so Why you think we zerg I don't know............

How did I make RR10L5 if all I do is Zerg for 10 RPs per kill.......

90% of people know that we don't Zerg, Our own group keeps shouting "Follow the Fukken Zerg " after we have died 10 times in 10 minutes to the enemy zerg..................

Anywayz We play Differently everyday, so stop pigeon-holing us, Its DARK Ages of Camelot, and if we Want to roam as 2fg tonite, we will !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that is by no Means An Admission.

U guys that constantly Spread HYPE about us being ZERGERS have serious issues to deal with, its a game and u guys are Nasty. You Clearly don't know what you are talking about and you eyes are open but you don't see. You can't take a step back to appreciate all the info. You Speak with anger not with intelligence.
 
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old.Zoyster

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its funny how I know we have beaten FG after FG, we have Videos of it, you have seen it, no one has ever said it here, this is Not a Forum its a Complaint web-page AKA BARRYSWHINE.
 
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old.Outlaw

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what's even worse Z0y is they go to prydwen boards and spread lies, then VN boards, such that u have people that havnt logged in since 2002 who post on JH the Korean DAOC website about Outlaw & Zoyster about some chinese whispers they read on BW about somethign about a ZERG that Wuren once mentioned on IRC that he heard from some1 who died @ apk.
O I know look at all those Pets and DDs and roots there must be like 20 of them, OUTLAW ZERGs. fu.
 
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sauna-

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Originally posted by Garbannoch Nox
I never said I am running a caster group and therefore we have to go 2fg cause casters are gimped. And I have absolutely no reason to do so.
Btw I saw a few of your guildies running with us - imo kick them from your guild and send them to hell where they belong to!!!!!1111 ;)

I am the GM of BaF, we've been around for ~2 years (was created before Beta), Stallion has been a member for ~1-2 months and is not an officer. We don't run with zergs, we ask if people need help sometimes and go there if they do and we're not alone in doing that so if we bumped into your 2fg's we'd most likely turn and run the other way.
 
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sauna-

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Originally posted by old.Zoyster
Hahahahahahahahahaha

How did I make RR10L5 if all I do is Zerg for 10 RPs per kill.......

Because you never die if your zerglings are enough in number and kill everything in your path, everyone knows that zerging is the way to get mucho rp and to some it's even a fun way to rvr. I have seen you guys in 1fg 2 times since we started rvr here, we won flawless both times and got zerged by you in 2-5fg both times afterwards.

Some people say "its not Outlaw/Zoysters fault people follow them", herregud, how hard is it to lose people, run away stand by some zw for a minute or two and they'll lose interest and stop following you.
 
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old.Zoyster

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now get a life ! or more specifically a character-transplant !!!

Repeat Offenders:

Zmurf
Iliya
VIntervargen


Originally posted by Crashtje
outlaw zerged his way to rr10 with his 24man 1fg with zoyster licking his arse all teh way :p
Originally posted by zmurf
if we want to watch zergers, will go to outlaw/zoyster in emain ...
Originally posted by vintervargen
and alb rr10s zerg 24/7, now RTFM
Originally posted by AbPoon

Anyway if they 2fg zerg then let em be tbh, they generally low rr so i dont mind, its the high RR 2fg and + that shit me, Zoyster and his assorted shitcun3s and Celtic Fist seem to enjoy it when they tire of dying to a FG. But i suppose at least CF run a FG when Garbs there or they dont lose too much
Originally posted by old.MikhailGudlik
nothign in comparison to your 4-6fg zerg every day every primetime.
Today 2fg albs mmg 2fg at amg and 5fg at tower \o/.
As for hibs zergin mayeb its cause albs got 1-2fg stealthers camping amg at 4:30 am gmt?
Originally posted by horil
Like you don't do anything you like anyways, just watch the zerg you're bringing with every time :D [/
Originally posted by zmurf
Zoyster and Outlaw rarely face ppl in RvR in equal numbers, as they zerg their asses off 95% of the time, so when they actually win an equal fight, it's an achivement for em, kindda pathetic really ...
Originally posted by scrow2
Group we beat last nite 1fg Vs 1FG.


notice the fg and FG, think zoyster was in the FG of 50 albs

Thats Just the last 2 weeks........
 
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Stallion-

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Originally posted by knudden
lol thats a pic of ppl waiting for group at dl
some days ago
why did u reply with that?

thats cruach not dl. response to xans comment.
 
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old.Zoyster

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Originally posted by ilaya

oh and btw.. back to original topic. no. they aint the equivalent of those 2 albs. i usually find zoyster towards the back of the zerg.. just before i smash his head in with my hammer and shield. whereas u will find garb and domain nearer to the front of the hib.. hehe.. zerg.. 2fg's ffs.. haha.. come on.. really? zerg?

Hahahaha Hwo wrong you are.......................hahaha What a gimp.
 
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sauna-

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Originally posted by old.Zoyster
Everyone, this man here is a Liar! Do not Believe Anythink he says! He Can't be trusted!

k.
 
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sauna-

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Originally posted by old.Xanthian
MAYBE WE WANT TO GO AMG???

Stall, you play by your rules and we play by ours, if BaF think they are the new leet rvr 1fg guild, good luck cos you will get bored of getting OWNED. Yes, that means zerged or squashed by fotm.

We don't think we're "leet", we think RvR is only fun in small numbers due to lag and because skill doesn't improve since everybody in zergfights sticks the closest/tries to nuke everything like mad to get rp's. I have no problem with anyone going 2fg, I just don't like it but that's me and noone has to agree with it. Dunno, where you got this "BaF thinks they're so leet, they think they're the JH of Hib/Exc"-shit from. Maybe it's Stallion who knows you from before and is a fasttalker ;). I just want to have fun when I play and fg vs. fg is what I find fun, exciting and shows who has the best teamplay better. Sure is frustrating when you meet the counterzergs that aren't organised to kill your fg but the 2fg+-roamers and were only made to do that tho and people may say stupid things when they're frustrated and angry.
Just as same as the first time we went out and tried to help fellow hibs we were called "fucking noobs" and "pissant leechers" because we weren't up to speed with your rules here. Now we try not to add but don't get the same curtesy back from anyone, dunno why that is..
 
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Weeping Willow

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Originally posted by sauna-
We don't think we're "leet", we think RvR is only fun in small numbers due to lag and because skill doesn't improve since everybody in zergfights sticks the closest/tries to nuke everything like mad to get rp's. I have no problem with anyone going 2fg, I just don't like it but that's me and noone has to agree with it. Dunno, where you got this "BaF thinks they're so leet, they think they're the JH of Hib/Exc"-shit from. Maybe it's Stallion who knows you from before and is a fasttalker ;). I just want to have fun when I play and fg vs. fg is what I find fun, exciting and shows who has the best teamplay better. Sure is frustrating when you meet the counterzergs that aren't organised to kill your fg but the 2fg+-roamers and were only made to do that tho and people may say stupid things when they're frustrated and angry.
Just as same as the first time we went out and tried to help fellow hibs we were called "fucking noobs" and "pissant leechers" because we weren't up to speed with your rules here. Now we try not to add but don't get the same curtesy back from anyone, dunno why that is..

Baf are teh leet tbh :>
 
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Stallion-

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Originally posted by sauna-
Maybe it's Stallion who knows you from before and is a fasttalker ;).

true, and we all know how it can get when ur over excited... and usaly this is the stuff that should be in my diary & not on public forums....


GARBA got rr11... s00ks so unfair. today I only made 14 rps :(. Xan called me a munchmucker today, I told him to go to his mommy...

80% of my talk is usaly bs, dont take it to personal. I stil love those I flame etc? have nothing to do with u beeing stupid or so, just me not agreeing on different peoples views & playstyles.. .we can stil make wub...


& make difference between BaF & me? im a person not a guild...all I say is my opinion... those nice ppl in BaF r really getting a pain in the ass now that I talk so much, none of em every whines etc, all have a good spirit & really put an effort... sooooo now I have to cut the whine not to get such nice ppl a bad name like mine :D
 
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infernalwrath

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Originally posted by Stallion-
ok a small sarcastic walkthrough....

#1 dont go to mgs!!!
#2 pull grps out of the zergs, (get in clipping range & run) =)
#3 dont roam randomly, set up points where u know fgs will pass & circle around em & put em on your route.
#4 use our precious stealthers out there
#5 good communication
#6 if u have to go thru mgs time it and do it fast without any delay.
#7 change zone if it gets to crowded
#8 foad irl with the whine, ppl relying on numbers make me puke, theres no reason to counterzerg, etc since its only a short term solution.
wise words .. wish all ppl folowed them ;x
 
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tuathra

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just a fast question stajj

did u forget that u were in Vengeance once? Did u forget that u ran REPEATEDLY in 2fgs FOR SEVERAL WEEKS/MONTHS in a row?

Why do u whine about this now?.. u didnt when it was helping you.

- tua
 

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