Gaming LCD 19" Panels
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Stimpy
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I've been seriously considering buying the 2005FPW for about the last 3 weeks now, I've even gone through entering my card details about 3 times only to end up not pressing confirm, all the problems I've heard about the back light issues with them has really made me hesitant, I know the people with problems are alot more vocal than the many people with perfect monitors but reading page after page of people having to return monitors up to 3 times to get a decent one really puts me off.
The fact that OC have the Viewsonic VX912B for £328.94 till thursday makes it even harder to make a decision, but I guess I've got until thursday to decide one way or the other if I don't want to miss out
The fact that OC have the Viewsonic VX912B for £328.94 till thursday makes it even harder to make a decision, but I guess I've got until thursday to decide one way or the other if I don't want to miss out
Clown said:
I was asking for the promised reviews/impressions of the monitors that were bought. Vae had not yet used his on the proper system, your good self had indicated that some more information may be forthcoming as did Catsby.
That is what I was asking for Clown.
Later
Catsby
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Catsby has not received his BENQ FP937S, with the alleged response time of 12ms.
He previously had (technically still has, but does not use) an iiyama VisionMaster Pro 454.
He honestly thinks that the LCD is not as good as the crt. He notices a slight blur when moving quickly.
However, Catsby has limited space in his office, and it has made a significant difference to the room.
Catsby will openly admit that after an hour of CSS, he did not notice the blur anymore.
Infact, he intends to run the monitors side by side in order to properly compare the two monitors, as he cannpt remeber if there was blur due to his gfx card rather than the display.
All in all, Catsby is happy, but if you are a utter purist, he would advise you to stay your hand a little and see what comes.
He previously had (technically still has, but does not use) an iiyama VisionMaster Pro 454.
He honestly thinks that the LCD is not as good as the crt. He notices a slight blur when moving quickly.
However, Catsby has limited space in his office, and it has made a significant difference to the room.
Catsby will openly admit that after an hour of CSS, he did not notice the blur anymore.
Infact, he intends to run the monitors side by side in order to properly compare the two monitors, as he cannpt remeber if there was blur due to his gfx card rather than the display.
All in all, Catsby is happy, but if you are a utter purist, he would advise you to stay your hand a little and see what comes.
Clown
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From an external DVD player (my PS2)? Shit. Fuzzy just like the games.
From my PC? Nice. The widescreen makes the picture seem much bigger than my 1280x1024 screen.
I don't understand the problems people have with the backlighting thing. Sure, you notice that the screen is lit up when it's meant to be displaying black, but when there are other colours on the screen then it looks fine and everything is more in perspective. It's not unevenly spread across the panel like some other pictures I saw, so I'm happy.
I might try that TV that I linked earlier in the thread. Sorry for the lack of real life pictures. Citylink fucked me.
From my PC? Nice. The widescreen makes the picture seem much bigger than my 1280x1024 screen.
I don't understand the problems people have with the backlighting thing. Sure, you notice that the screen is lit up when it's meant to be displaying black, but when there are other colours on the screen then it looks fine and everything is more in perspective. It's not unevenly spread across the panel like some other pictures I saw, so I'm happy.
I might try that TV that I linked earlier in the thread. Sorry for the lack of real life pictures. Citylink fucked me.
Vae
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Things have been a bit busy hence no follow-up until now on the Hyundai L90D+
Attached it to my GF4TI4200's DVI output and had no problems setting it up. I did have a small issue regarding the colour saturation in DVD's and DivX files (It was a bit dark and slightly too red) but installing the windows driver from the CD that came with it and one of the two colour profile files also on the CD fixed that problem.
The brightness and contrast on the monitor and also in the Nvidia control panel needed a little tweaking (Nvidia Brightness 103% and contrast 91% for me but I can't remember what the monitor settings were).
I tested the DVD playback using SW Ep2: Attack of the Clones. The playback was flawless. I couldn't identify any blurring/ghosting at all. The credits at the end of the film proved useful for setting the brightness and contrast values as they made it possible to set it so that the black of the film screen matched the black of the rest of the screen and I could also see the star background clearly. I used my 6 year old Belinea 17" CRT (refresh rate of 100Hz) on the analogue of the gfx card as a clone of the LCD screen to provide a comparison. This screen also proved useful for testing if there was any light leakage from the edges. With the room lights off I could just about identify a bit of light leakage from the backlight along the top of the screen but this would be un-noticable in almost all circumstances.
Viewing Angles are impressive both left, right and from above with the image being unaffected. Looking at it from below (highly unlikely during normal use) the angle was a lot less and quickly vanished from view.
As I mentioned before if you use the Banding jpg there is some identifiable bands in the colour gradient, more noticeable if you scroll the jpg.
Unfortunately I don't have any of the latest FPS games to test the gaming side to the full - You'll have to pester Gale for a better opinion about that. I did test it with WOW and Rome TW and couldn't identify any blurring/ghosting.
I haven't tested out the speakers because I have a seperate set but they connect via a normal audio in.
The monitors clearly a lot lighter than a CRT (I'd say less than half that of my 17"). The power supply is built in using the standard kettle power lead so there's no additional box sitting around acting as a transformer. The base is sturdy and you can raise the screen, tilt it and rotate it 90 degrees quite easily.
Overall the monitor is lovely. It's nice and bright, large and seems to have good colour (despite what the banding jpg shows I've not noticed any problem during use). I've not noticed any blurring or ghosting at all, backlighting doesn't seem to be a problem and I've not noticed it appear to be lighter at the edges or anything like previously mentioned on this thread. Best of all it had no dead pixels but admittedly this could well be an exception.
My only complaint is that 2 days after I received the monitor OCUK reduced the price by £40 inc VAT
Attached it to my GF4TI4200's DVI output and had no problems setting it up. I did have a small issue regarding the colour saturation in DVD's and DivX files (It was a bit dark and slightly too red) but installing the windows driver from the CD that came with it and one of the two colour profile files also on the CD fixed that problem.
The brightness and contrast on the monitor and also in the Nvidia control panel needed a little tweaking (Nvidia Brightness 103% and contrast 91% for me but I can't remember what the monitor settings were).
I tested the DVD playback using SW Ep2: Attack of the Clones. The playback was flawless. I couldn't identify any blurring/ghosting at all. The credits at the end of the film proved useful for setting the brightness and contrast values as they made it possible to set it so that the black of the film screen matched the black of the rest of the screen and I could also see the star background clearly. I used my 6 year old Belinea 17" CRT (refresh rate of 100Hz) on the analogue of the gfx card as a clone of the LCD screen to provide a comparison. This screen also proved useful for testing if there was any light leakage from the edges. With the room lights off I could just about identify a bit of light leakage from the backlight along the top of the screen but this would be un-noticable in almost all circumstances.
Viewing Angles are impressive both left, right and from above with the image being unaffected. Looking at it from below (highly unlikely during normal use) the angle was a lot less and quickly vanished from view.
As I mentioned before if you use the Banding jpg there is some identifiable bands in the colour gradient, more noticeable if you scroll the jpg.
Unfortunately I don't have any of the latest FPS games to test the gaming side to the full - You'll have to pester Gale for a better opinion about that. I did test it with WOW and Rome TW and couldn't identify any blurring/ghosting.
I haven't tested out the speakers because I have a seperate set but they connect via a normal audio in.
The monitors clearly a lot lighter than a CRT (I'd say less than half that of my 17"). The power supply is built in using the standard kettle power lead so there's no additional box sitting around acting as a transformer. The base is sturdy and you can raise the screen, tilt it and rotate it 90 degrees quite easily.
Overall the monitor is lovely. It's nice and bright, large and seems to have good colour (despite what the banding jpg shows I've not noticed any problem during use). I've not noticed any blurring or ghosting at all, backlighting doesn't seem to be a problem and I've not noticed it appear to be lighter at the edges or anything like previously mentioned on this thread. Best of all it had no dead pixels but admittedly this could well be an exception.
My only complaint is that 2 days after I received the monitor OCUK reduced the price by £40 inc VAT
Cyradix
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The Dell arrived yesterday.
Gaming at 1600*1050 widescreen is so cool
Not a single dead pixel.
The blacklight issue is only noticable when you are displaying a very dark (full screen) picture or when you have set your screensaver to blank
The image is very sharp and the colors are bright.
I only have 1 problem. When I play a dvd with Windvd in full screen the movie seems out of fase. The picture is display twice with about 2 cm in between.
Fiddling with windvd usually solves the problem but after a restart the problem is back.
I installed powerdvd just to be sure and it has the same out of fase problem.
If I use an old RBG cable instead of DVI I don't have this problem.
I'm a DVI noob so maybe I missed some obvious setting somewhere
Gaming at 1600*1050 widescreen is so cool
Not a single dead pixel.
The blacklight issue is only noticable when you are displaying a very dark (full screen) picture or when you have set your screensaver to blank
The image is very sharp and the colors are bright.
I only have 1 problem. When I play a dvd with Windvd in full screen the movie seems out of fase. The picture is display twice with about 2 cm in between.
Fiddling with windvd usually solves the problem but after a restart the problem is back.
I installed powerdvd just to be sure and it has the same out of fase problem.
If I use an old RBG cable instead of DVI I don't have this problem.
I'm a DVI noob so maybe I missed some obvious setting somewhere
Ch3tan
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They are now also selling this
nearly £900 though :/
- Monitor size and type : 24" (61.0cm) active matrix TFT
- Resolution : 1920 x 1200 (WUXGA+)
- Response time / Brightness / Contrast Ratio : 16ms / 500cd/m2 / 1000:1
- Dimensions h x w x d : 451 / 551 (compressed / extended) x 559 x 229 mm
- Weight : 9.8 kg
- Inputs : Analogue / Digital / S-Video / Composite / Component
- Height adjustable stand / Audio capability : Yes (100mm travel) / Optional AS500 soundbar
- VESA mounting compatible / Security slot : Yes (100mm) / Yes
- Integrated powered USB 2.0 hub / 9-in-1 card reader : 4 downstream, 1 upstream ports / CF I/II, SD/mini SD, MS/MS Pro, MMC/Smart Media, Microdrive
nearly £900 though :/
dysfunction
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Yaka
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it is if hagle on the phone abit. mine cost £750 then when they started the buy one get second one half price offer i complained and after 30 mins of bitching i got £150 refund
dell customer line is very shite tho. and i think the 20.1 fpw is just over £300 pound mark now could get 2 with the 2nd one half price offer
dell customer line is very shite tho. and i think the 20.1 fpw is just over £300 pound mark now could get 2 with the 2nd one half price offer
Chilly
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all the dell flat panels iv ever used have awful response time, i recently bought a 17" iyama pro-lite jobbie for mum and its fuckin mint, 10ms response and theres little to no motion blur when scrolling text up an down well quick, havnt tried any games since its my mums studio pc and shel hit me with a very hard stick if i go near it with a counter strike dvd
Ch3tan
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Ch3tan
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Above link, a bloke on ebay selling the 2405 for £630 a pop. He has quite a few, checks them for dead pixels before sending them out, accepts returns on faulty products and gives the full 3 year warrenty with dell.
Sorry for the double post, forums were not giving me permession to edit.
Sorry for the double post, forums were not giving me permession to edit.